Kugane Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 As time progresses my Skaven army is finally taking shape. Most of my conversions are done and I want with a Japanese army look, following Clan Eshin 'theme'. I have a few miniatures to share, even though they still need some detail work and highlighting done (screaming bell ropes, skin fixes, etc). I apologize for the messy backgrounds, I will be putting up pictures with less background clutter soon. Any advice how to improve the painting are greatly appreciated too! My Tretch - Skaven Shogun Slaughterpriest (I am hoping to use this one as a proxy of some sort): Skaven assassin: Screaming bell with "glow" (thanks Dez for the tip!), still need to fix the ropes: As for the lists I am aiming for and wondering for some feedback, I am still uncertain what artifacts/traits to take, so I pretty much selected random ones for now: 1000 list: Spoiler Allegiance: Chaos Leaders Verminlord Deceiver (320) - General - Trait: Cunning Deceiver - Artefact: Crown of Conquest Skaven Assassin (100) - Weeping Blades - Artefact: Beguiling Gem Skaven Assassin (100) - Fighting Claws - Artefact: Chaos Runeblade Deathrunner (120) - Artefact: Favour of the Gods Skaven Assassin (100) - Weeping Blades - Artefact: Chaos Runeblade Battleline 20 x Night Runners (200) - Eshin Battleline Units 5 x Gutter Runners (60) Total: 1000/1000 1500: Spoiler Allegiance: Chaos Leaders Verminlord Deceiver (320) - General - Trait: Cunning Deceiver - Artefact: Crown of Conquest Skaven Assassin (100) - Weeping Blades Deathrunner (120) Deathrunner (120) Deathmaster Snikch (120) Deathrunner (120) Battleline 20 x Night Runners (200) - Eshin Battleline 10 x Night Runners (100) - Eshin Battleline 10 x Night Runners (100) - Eshin Battleline Units 10 x Gutter Runners (120) Battalions Eshin Clawpack (80) Total: 1500/1500 2000: Spoiler Allegiance: Chaos Leaders Screaming Bell (260) - Artefact: Favour of the Gods Verminlord Deceiver (320) - General - Trait: Terrifying Presence - Artefact: Crown of Conquest Tretch Craventail (100) Skaven Warlord (100) - Warpforged Blade - Artefact: Chaos Runeblade Battleline 40 x Clanrats (240) - Rusty Spear 10 x Clanrats (60) - Rusty Blade 10 x Clanrats (60) - Rusty Blade 3 x Stormfiends (300) - Warpfire Projectors - Skryre Battleline Units 20 x Stormvermin (280) - Halberd 1 x Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team (60) 1 x Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team (60) 1 x Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team (60) Battalions Verminus Clawpack (80) Total: 1980/2000 2500: Spoiler Allegiance: Chaos Leaders Tretch Craventail (100) Verminlord Deceiver (320) - General - Cunning Deceiver - Artefact: Crown of Conquest Screaming Bell (260) - Artefact: Crown of Conquest Deathmaster Snikch (120) Deathrunner (120) - Artefact: Favour of the Gods Slaughterpriest (100) - Hackblade and Wrath Hammer - Artefact: Chaos Runeblade Battleline 40 x Clanrats (240) - Rusty Spear 30 x Clanrats (180) - Rusty Spear 10 x Clanrats (60) - Rusty Blade Units 30 x Stormvermin (420) - Halberd & Shield 3 x Stormfiends (300) - Warpfire Projectors - Skryre Battleline 1 x Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team (60) 1 x Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team (60) 1 x Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team (60) Battalions Verminus Clawpack (80) Total: 2480/2500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Bang up job, I can't love that Assassin enough! Amazing! The only thing I'm not convinced about is the samurai, I think the mask doesn't work. Great job on the glow One other thing I'd recommend is a wash on the flesh tones, you could use Agrax Earth in the recesses or just hit it with Reikland Flesh. 1000 Point List: Artifacts/Command Traits You can only take one per army, with an additional artifact granted for every Battalion that you take. Playing Skaven, the Crown of Command is the best choice though I wouldn't take it on the Deceiver. He should be out killing Warmachines and heroes, though with his speed he could be back in the thick of things pretty fast. Also, Weeping Blades all day every day on Assassins For a Command Trait, I'd consider taking Great Destroyer to potentially boost your Night Runners hitting on a rerollable 3+. You need 2 Battleline units at 1000 points. Now you run into the problem that Night Runners will die in droves if they get the hiccups They will be carrying your Assassins (the Deceiver cannot) so you need these units to be bigger...especially if you plan on getting objectives. What I'd consider is dropping some of the heroes and having 2 bulked up units of Night Runners. In Combat, Night Runners are 4+ 4+ and on a 6 to wound gain rend -1. If there are 20+ in the unit, it's a -2 rend on a 6. You are going to need the numbers (and Inspiring Presence) on these guys. The other thing you can do is take the Eshin Clawpack, which drastically speeds up your army and turns up their killing power when they reroll to wound. If you take the Crown of Command on the Deceiver, you can cast Inspiring Presence twice which you will need. Here are a couple example lists that will work while keeping the theme: Spoiler Allegiance: ChaosLeadersVerminlord Deceiver (320)- General- Trait: Great Destroyer- Artefact: Crown of ConquestSkaven Assassin (100)- Weeping BladesBattleline20 x Night Runners (200)- Eshin Battleline30 x Night Runners (300)- Eshin BattlelineUnits5 x Gutter Runners (60)Total: 980/1000 Spoiler Allegiance: ChaosLeadersSkaven Assassin (100)- Weeping Blades- Artefact: Chaos RunebladeVerminlord Deceiver (320)- General- Trait: Great Destroyer- Artefact: Crown of ConquestBattleline20 x Night Runners (200)- Eshin Battleline10 x Night Runners (100)- Eshin Battleline10 x Night Runners (100)- Eshin BattlelineUnits5 x Gutter Runners (60)BattalionsEshin Clawpack (80)Total: 960/2000 Spoiler Allegiance: ChaosLeadersSkaven Assassin (100)- Weeping Blades- Artefact: Chaos RunebladeVerminlord Deceiver (320)- General- Trait: Great Destroyer- Artefact: Crown of ConquestSkaven Assassin (100)- Weeping BladesBattleline30 x Night Runners (300)- Eshin Battleline30 x Night Runners (300)- Eshin Battleline20 x Night Runners (200)- Eshin BattlelineUnits5 x Gutter Runners (60)BattalionsEshin Clawpack (80)Total: 1460/1500 Spoiler Allegiance: ChaosLeadersSkaven Assassin (100)- Weeping Blades- Artefact: Chaos RunebladeVerminlord Deceiver (320)- General- Trait: Great Destroyer- Artefact: Crown of ConquestSkaven Assassin (100)- Weeping BladesDeathrunner (120)Battleline40 x Night Runners (400)- Eshin Battleline40 x Night Runners (400)- Eshin Battleline40 x Night Runners (400)- Eshin BattlelineUnits5 x Gutter Runners (60)BattalionsEshin Clawpack (80)Total: 1980/2000 I like your 2000 point list, it's super solid and competetive. I've been winning a lot with a very similar list, it does everything you need it to in each scenario. Tretch is so good! The Bell can be great at 3 Places of Power too. The only thing that I really do different is take an Arch Warlock, he is just super tanky and can cast Shield on himself while using his signature spell to put out mortal wounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kugane Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 Hey Dez! Thanks for your feedback. As for the samurai I am also not entirely happy with the face/mask. The other thing that I dislike about the model is the skin underneat the armour. I was originally planning to give him greenstuff clothing, but then I'm afraid it can hardly be recognised as a slaughterpriest anymore. The conversion looked alright when I first put them, but the washes and highlights don't seem to work well with the mask. So most likely this miniature is going to be benched permanently pretty soon. Tretch worked out quite decently though, even though I want to change his fan. I made it out of bits and green stuff, but it looks too bulky now that it is painted up. I should have cut one out of plasticard instead in hindsight. One of the new 40k miniatures has a nice fan I saw, so I'm considering to try and get my hands on it. As for the lists, I'm liking the 2nd Eshin list with the clawpack, as well as the 1500 list. I'm currently converting clanrats into Nightrunners, but I may have to pick up another box. They are relatively simple to make regardless. A shame the Island of blood skaven don't have the shields separate, it would make things a lot easier (cheaper) to convert. I do have a box of plaguemonks however that I could try to convert, but I'm not a fan of these models and still wondering what to do with them. For the 2000 list, I just converted an arch warlock to have a samurai banner and head, going to paint it up soon and try and fit it in, what do you think I could replace? I'm going to convert my stormfiends with some Necron bits by the way. I saw that Necron Immortals had a few nice cannons that could work as a warpfire projector. Thinking to pick up a box and use the other guns to make some Skaven Jezzails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I'm not sure what I would replace to put in the Arch Warlock...though I did eventually take out the Bell. I also don't use the Deceiver. I love the idea of using Necron bits (I also play Necrons). I used flamer bits from the Baneblade kit I've had lying around since it came out in plastic for my Warpfire Projectors Really nice work on your conversions by the way, keep it up and don't be afraid to try new things it's working for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kugane Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 5 hours ago, Dez said: I'm not sure what I would replace to put in the Arch Warlock...though I did eventually take out the Bell. I also don't use the Deceiver. I love the idea of using Necron bits (I also play Necrons). I used flamer bits from the Baneblade kit I've had lying around since it came out in plastic for my Warpfire Projectors Really nice work on your conversions by the way, keep it up and don't be afraid to try new things it's working for you! Thanks again :), I think I will keep the screaming bell in the list for now, perhaps use the arch warlock in a 2500 list. I was hoping to fit a Sayl the Faithless in somewhere, but the Verminus clawpack and weapon teams are sucking up a lot of points at this rate. I'm mostly learning to play the game at the moment anyways, so no big deal. I may end up switching the bell for an arch warlock and 10 extra stormvermin or something though. Time will tell. For now I'm mostly adding jingasa (the pointy asian heads) to half my clanrats. I'll probably be busy equiping 40 rats with hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kugane Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 Update! So, I'm finally done equiping all clanrats with tiny jingasa, I decided to take a Tokugawa Shogunate colour scheme of red and black. I also switched Tretch's fan for a new one since it looked so bulky. I now have 59 other clanrats in the making (just need to fix the base colours a bit, then I can wash them, dry brush and highlight like the skaven below). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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