Ishkul Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Hey guys! I am attending a 1500 matched play tournament and I plan to go with this: Allegiance: DestructionLeadersMegaboss on Maw-Krusha (520)- General- Chopppa & Rip Tooth Fist- Trait: Bellowing Tyrant- Artefact: Talisman of ProtectionOrruk Warchanter (80)Orruk Weirdnob Shaman (120)- Artefact: Talisman of ProtectionBattleline10 x Orruk Ardboys (180)- 5x Pair of Choppas or Smashas- 4x Choppa or Smasha & Shields- 1x Big Choppas3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (180)- Pig Iron Choppas5 x Orruk Brutes (180)- Pair of Brute Choppas- 1x Gore Choppa5 x Orruk Brutes (180)- Pair of Brute Choppas- 1x Gore ChoppaBattalionsIronfist (60)Total: 1500/2000 What do you guys think? Can you share your 1500 point Ironjawz lists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thain Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I'm wondering if you might be better served leaving out the Maw-Krusha and switching to a Megaboss on foot. Freeing up points to add two units of your choice (I'd grab a second unit of Ardboyz and Gruntas.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlySarcasm Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 7 hours ago, Thain said: I'm wondering if you might be better served leaving out the Maw-Krusha and switching to a Megaboss on foot. Freeing up points to add two units of your choice (I'd grab a second unit of Ardboyz and Gruntas.) I'd go with this as well I think. Don't forget, keeping a megaboss within 5" of the brutes gives them re-rolls of 1s to hit. Very useful for those combats where you don't have duff up da big thing giving you rerolls. Alternatively, you could always drop the gore gruntas and take a Megaboss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysandestolpe Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I third the comments above. Id do this: Allegiance: DestructionLeadersMegaboss (140)- General- Chopppa & Rip Tooth Fist- Trait: Bellowing Tyrant- Artefact: Talisman of Protection Megaboss (140)- Chopppa & Rip Tooth Fist- Trait: Bellowing Tyrant- Artefact: BattlebrewOrruk Warchanter (80)Battleline10 x Orruk Ardboys (180)- 5x Pair of Choppas or Smashas- 4x Choppa or Smasha & Shields- 1x Big Choppas3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (180)- Pig Iron Choppas 10 x Orruk Brutes (360)- Gore-hackas- 1x Gore Choppa5 x Orruk Brutes (180)- Pair of Brute Choppas- 1x Gore Choppa5 x Orruk Brutes (180)- Pair of Brute Choppas- 1x Gore ChoppaBattalionsIronfist (60) total: 1500/2000 Honestly, the 10 unit of Brutes is what makes the most damage in every game I've played. They wreck havoc. If you want you can take a Weirdnob instead of a second boss to give them mystic shield, but I wouldn't count on any other spell of his to go your way. That is if 3+ save is worth 120 pts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishkul Posted March 25, 2017 Author Share Posted March 25, 2017 Well I just bought and built mawkrusha and I am willing to use it, I will try to make him worth the points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysandestolpe Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 6 hours ago, Ishkul said: Well I just bought and built mawkrusha and I am willing to use it, I will try to make him worth the points Go for it, dude. The list never wins 100% of the game, the player is a major part. More importantly, its fielding something cool that also makes it fun, and the Maw Krusha is awesome. I have one to that I will field at tomorrows 2k tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thain Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I'd rather play and loose, than never play at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaris Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 On 3/26/2017 at 1:54 AM, Lysandestolpe said: Go for it, dude. The list never wins 100% of the game, the player is a major part. More importantly, its fielding something cool that also makes it fun, and the Maw Krusha is awesome. I have one to that I will field at tomorrows 2k tournament. I think that a lot of the time, way too much emphasis is put on playing the best list. At the end of the day, good decisions will make a bad list shine, whereas bad decisions make good lists flop. Only by playing, making mistakes and losing can you learn the limits of your list and units and grow as a general. By constantly attributing wins and losses to lists and match ups you will make sure that you never grow as a player. I think people need to be a bit more relaxed and try out lists that are not optimal, especially with the GH2 on the horizon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fez_the_druid Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 16 hours ago, Solaris said: I think that a lot of the time, way too much emphasis is put on playing the best list. At the end of the day, good decisions will make a bad list shine, whereas bad decisions make good lists flop. Only by playing, making mistakes and losing can you learn the limits of your list and units and grow as a general. By constantly attributing wins and losses to lists and match ups you will make sure that you never grow as a player. I think people need to be a bit more relaxed and try out lists that are not optimal, especially with the GH2 on the horizon. Seconded. Ironjawz players, more than most other players, need to understand target priority. No I don't mean the old fashioned 40k rule, I mean understanding that some units are just straight up more dangerous than others. On the face of it, this is simple, do I charge 20 skaven slaves or 20 Chaos Warriors with my 20 Ardboys, I charge the Warriors, I strike first, I probably win that fight and the slaves can be mopped up later. But What if those slaves are in a position to take am objective next turn, winning my opponent the game? What if I charge the warriors and my opponents can pile in with another unit, is that a good trade for me? This is a concept much more important to Ironjawz players than other players because we don't have any in-faction ranged, so poor decisions come back to bite us later on, really really hard, and all of our guys are so expensive! A 180 point brute squad out of position on turn 2 is unlikely to have much impact on the rest of the game! They are slow, low in numbers and highly specialised! This all factors in how Ironjawz play. tl;dr: An Ironjawz 1000 point list is easy to build, 4x 180 + Megaboss + Ironfist. Done. How that list plays... A whole other story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysandestolpe Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 20 hours ago, Solaris said: I think that a lot of the time, way too much emphasis is put on playing the best list. At the end of the day, good decisions will make a bad list shine, whereas bad decisions make good lists flop. Only by playing, making mistakes and losing can you learn the limits of your list and units and grow as a general. By constantly attributing wins and losses to lists and match ups you will make sure that you never grow as a player. I think people need to be a bit more relaxed and try out lists that are not optimal, especially with the GH2 on the horizon. Not only that, but playing a list like that also makes me feel like I am a good player. A kunning Rukk Maxed out list, anybody can win games with that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishkul Posted March 29, 2017 Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 I will let you guys know on monday, will try to make some reports Wish me luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysandestolpe Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 5 hours ago, Ishkul said: I will let you guys know on monday, will try to make some reports Wish me luck! Yes you are obliged to post pictures! Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishkul Posted April 2, 2017 Author Share Posted April 2, 2017 Photo of my army on yesterday's tournament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishkul Posted April 2, 2017 Author Share Posted April 2, 2017 Game 1 VS Death Enemy list was a Neferata + Mourngul list, I made a huge mistake on deployment and my krusha got charged by mourngul on the first turn, combining that mistake with a really horrible save roll, that is a 2 wound left mawkrusha on the first attack of the first turn of the first game, not the best start for a tournament. After that start, all game was really hard for me and my brutes were unable to hit anything because of my poor positioning and the combined -3 hit that I got. I knew my rival was going to play that list and hoped to avoid him, so this game result was pretty much expected. Result: Major defeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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