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  1. Muerte4kvs4k (2).pdf Heyyyyyy booooooys. This weekend i have a 4k vs 4k (2 vs 2 players) agaisnt Nurgle and Sylvaneth, my mate will use Orruk warclans. I need your opinion about the list im linking. Your thoughts, utility etc etc Have to say we are going to play starting in the short sides of the table, i cant remenber exactly the name of this vertical battle plan.
  2. Hey guys! I'm new on this forum (I've been on Lustria Online alot) and I'm looking for some help with making a KO list. I need more models but I want to try and see what models I need before I start buying some. I'm looking for a 1k, 1.5k and 2k list if possible. Preferably one that uses more gunships. Please post any builds you guys think might help me out. Ty for time!
  3. List Breakdown Recap – Legion of Grief at Masters 2019 Overview Gidday all, Aiden’s back with a recap looking at how my list did at Masters and the changes I’d make from my various games and the experience I gained. With the list breakdown post currently being my most read post on this blog, the format is going to quite literally be a copy paste deal where I show what I originally said, then I respond to it based on how it all played. I’ve neatly done my responses in a good honest ethereal blue so it’s clear where my reviews can be located for each paragraph and breakdown. The List Allegiance: Legion of Grief Mortal Realm: Hysh Leaders Dreadblade Harrow (90) - General - Trait: Vassal of the Craven King (whenever you spend a CP, roll a dice. On a 5+ you get 1 CP) Necromancer (130) - Artefact: Aetherquartz Brooch (whenever you spend a CP, roll a dice. On a 5+ you get 1 CP) - Spell: Dread Withering (-1 to a unit’s save rolls within 18” of the caster) Guardian of Souls with Nightmare Lantern (140) - Spell: Dread Withering (-1 to a unit’s save rolls within 18” of the caster) Knight of Shrouds (100) Battleline 40 x Chainrasp Horde (280) 10 x Chainrasp Horde (80) 10 x Chainrasp Horde (80) Units 20 x Dreadscythe Harridans (280) 15 x Dreadscythe Harridans (240) 12 x Myrmourn Banshees (210) 20 x Grimghast Reapers (320) Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs Extra Command Point (50) Total: 2000 / 2000 Extra Command Points: 1 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 147 Allegiance Choice – The Legion of Grief Anyone familiar with my dreams of a competitive ghost army knows I’m in a perpetual pull between the Nighthaunt and Legions of Grief allegiances. Nighthaunt offers battalions, Wave of Terror and a flexible deployment method, Legion of Grief offers Gravesites and all the thrills that come with them. Given the local meta has a proclivity for taking lots of threat units, I valued the defensive capabilities of Gravesites and they won out this time. I will however be trialling Nighthaunt post-Masters to see if I want to take them to CanCon. Review: This went very well for me. There was one time in the whole event where I would have had an advantage running pure Nighthaunt allegiance and that lasted all of 15 minutes. Legion of Grief remains the vastly superior choice to Nighthaunt, for the time being. The ability to bring back units that have been slain allows the ghosts to play around burst damage and attrition, two fields that the Nighthaunt allegiance was heavily outclassed by when people were attempting to run it competitively. Realm Choice – Hysh, Realm of Light Lol, you know why I picked this. At this stage Aetherquartz Broach is going to end up in my Last Will and Testament. Review: God bless this hot mess, Aetherquartz Broach isn’t going ANYWHERE any time soon. Dreadblade Harrow – General – Vassal of the Craven King This one goes without saying. The combination of his ability to teleport basically wherever he needs to be every turn to resurrect fallen minions and the sheer power of the command trait Vassal of the Craven King singlehandedly prevent Olynder from ever being ran in her OWN legion. The Dreadblade is no close-combat king, he’ll struggle in a fight against even the most basic of chaff, but what he lacks in punch he makes up for with sheer utility. His movement happens at the START of the movement phase, and resurrection can be used at the END, ensuring he is always right where he needs to be to pull a unit out of the dirt. He’s a good boy. Review: Always a good choice, doesn’t really require much explanation. Everything above remains correct, and through clever gameplay and execution my Dreadblade Harrow spent at least 2CP every game on resurrection while not dying even once over 5 games. Necromancer – Aetherquartz Broach – Dread Withering Another that goes without saying. Pre-Grief, Nighthaunt players were willing to give up their first CP of the game just to sneak one of these into their army with Sons of the Lichemaster. His unique spell turns any of the threat units in this army into a slaughtermachine, and his Deathly Invocation is always handy if he’s near said units. Giving him Aetherquartz Broach makes sense because he can be kept the safest of my 4 heroes (except the Dreadblade, but never put all the eggs in one basket) so I don’t need to fear losing it. I’ve also given him Dread Withering in the even I need to dig through a high save value. Necromancer is another good boy. Review: Quietly powerful, the Necromancer was able to do good work over the course of the event. I found I strongly preferred his Vanhel’s Dance Macabre on the big blob of Chainrasps, especially if it had charged. The only change I would make here is giving his Aetherquartz Broach to the Dreadblade Harrow as the Necromancer is a Nagash-damned bullet magnet for threats and the Dreadblade managed to survive 5 times out of 5 to the Necromancer’s 2 out of 5. Guardian of Souls with Nightmare Lantern – Dread Withering This lad is less certain than the previous two. He’s here purely for his Nightmare Lantern buff that provides a radiant wholly within 12” bubble of +1 to wound for NIGHTHAUNT units. Weighing in at 140pts, this guy is 8 Myrmourn Banshees’ worth of model and I’m grimly aware of it whenever he under-performs. A vulnerable character with only 5 wounds, this can be smacked out of the game by an opportunistic chaff squad or just a good round of shooting. However despite these flaws, when he’s in the right place at the right time the Guardian of Souls can guarantee a unit of Dreadscythe Harridans or Grimghast Reapers will destroy their targets, and even give Chainrasps a dangerous punch. His spell is not worth relying on but it’s nice, he’ll mostly cast Dread Withering. An average boy, with a lot to prove given he replaced the Knight of Shrouds on Ethereal Steed and a potential Triumph. Review: Ooooh bad news Guardian of Souls, you’re out of the band. 140pts is just too expensive for a radiant +1 to wound attached to an extremely vulnerable threat magnet. He died in nearly every game, failed to cast constantly and overall was a disappointment. “Dice games and external factors” you say to me, but for 20pts less I can have a Knight of Shrouds on Ethereal Steed throwing out +1 attack, comparable to +1 wound, with no dice roll. Which I intend to. See you next GHB Guardian of Souls, don’t call me unless you’re 100pts. Knight of Shrouds My personal favorite character in the army, nay, the Nighthaunt line-up in general. He’s very simple, a cheap close combat bruiser with a niche healing mechanic and a very powerful command ability. Spectral Overseer can turn even the infamously swingy Myrmourn Banshee melee profile into a weapon of nuclear destruction, and he spends most of his time smack in the centre of a unit of Dreadscythe Harridans. Serving as the nozzle of the funnel I pour all my excess Command Points into, he supports the team, he looks after the ‘Rasps and he’s the type of guy who’s happy to sober drive the Black Coach home. A very good boy, potentially the best boy. Review: What a good lad. Made the army work in every game while slapping to death any unit that had the AUDACITY to try and confront him head on. 100pts for this bloke is a steal, and he pulls the hard work every time. The only change I would make is have him dedicated to following around a unit that rewards his bonuses to hit more with damage output. Dreadscythe Harridans really couldn’t get it over the line but the Myrmourns slaughtered elite units with ease when buffed, and the Chainrasps smashed aside any threat with superior weight of dice. Chainrasp Hordes Hands down the best generic 80pt Battleline available to the entire Death Grand Alliance (fight me Skeleton Warriors). Chainrasps are another very simple unit, they have an Ethereal 5+ save and if there’s more than 10 of them, reroll 1’s to wound. Like any Death unit, their big vulnerability is mortal wounds and magic, but they make up with this with high bravery and the occasional deflection of a -3 rend attack that should by all rights erase them. They swamp objectives well, and nothing crushes the enemy spirits more than resurrecting 40 Chainrasps right as they manage to finally brick them the first time. Review: The only, only change I’m making is DOUBLING UP on that unit of 40. These little beauties were directly involved in every victory and close defeat all weekend. When squatting on Gravesites these little lads are nigh irremovable and bringing back the unit of 40 was impossible… because no opponent successfully managed to stomp it out. Let the ghostly glow of my ocean of Chainrasps become my signature, because all they do is win win win. Taking them out of the movement trays (following the lead of top NZ player Mitch Harty and his Skaven deployments and maneuverings) helped me think outside the box and make better use of their absolute area denial. Dreadscythe Harridans Alright these are a stylistic choice if I’m being honest. I bought 4 boxes when I started playing Nighthaunt (wanted to run a Shrieker Host to ****** off Skaven players) and ever since I’ve tried to make them good. They bring a lot to Legion of Grief as the best of the Big Three Nighthaunt threat units (Grimghast, Dreadscythe, Bladegheist) for buffing with the Knight of Shrouds command ability given they’re cheaper than the other 2 while having the most output raw damage wise with 2CP invested. Their -1 to hit aura also tends to come in handy against Destruction armies (well well well) and their large footprint and Ethereal save give them a wide range of options to contribute to the force. Review: Not great. Running Dreadscythe Harridans is a risk because their -1 to hit aura is a large part of their points cost but it will come into effect maybe 40% of the time due to popular armies tending to boast high bravery (Slaanesh, all Death armies, Stormcast Eternals) or boosts and rerolls that let them effectively shrug off the debuff (Skaven, Daughters of Khaine). The Dreadscythe’s only major contribution over the weekend was their large base size helping to zone off enemy units, and I could have achieved that with twice their number in Chainrasps for the same cost. Outside of running my meme-tier Shrieker Host in local games days, these ladies will be sitting on my shelf for a while. Myrmourn Banshees World’s most monopose unit. Coming in at a grand total of 4 available poses, which is 3 more than they have attacks. What they do have however is -2 rend and D3 damage on said attack, and they get a bonus attack for unbinding enemy spells, which they also get a large bonus to do. They can also dispel an endless spell at the cost of taking D3 wounds (happens at the start of the phase, do it near a gravesite and you’re golden) which ALSO gives them +1 attack. With even a single bonus attack this unit becomes scary, with 2CP invested from a Knight of Shrouds there isn’t a single thing they won’t kill. With only 12 in the unit, it’s not very hard for the enemy to murk this unit pretty quickly, but it would be a shame if somebody… brought them back. Review: Oh damn, it’s the golden girls. How does such a small unit over-perform so hard? They had no equal this event save the Chainrasps. One opponent outright refused to cast spells all game because he knew if he rolled a low but successful cast I would obliterate him with them immediately. Fantastic vehicles for the CP Farm that Legion of Grief is, these models are absolutely what you want in this list. And if 12 doesn’t quite cut it for you… perhaps 24? Grimghast Reapers A unit that needs neither justification nor explanation. Grimghast Reapers single-handedly kept Legions of Nagash relevant during the Daughters of Khaine Winter, and even bumping their cost to 160pts for 10 couldn’t hamper their effectiveness. Point them at an enemy threat unit and watch it die. Invest some CP in them and watch the enemy army die. When THEY die, bring them back. Rinse and repeat. Review: Yeah you don’t need me telling you these guys kick ass. Only change I would make is up the unit to 30 of them. They can just roam around the table with no support and still threaten anything the enemy may have half-capable of contesting them. They can fight over top of other units, reach over chaff screens to slap a cowardly hero hiding behind them and cheat their way up the table by taking 3 Damned Terrain sets of mortal wounds then immediately healing off 3 Gravesites and a Necromancer on turn 1. They’re good, and unless the GHB slaps them with ANOTHER unmerited points hike (stop punishing us for the behavior of Legion of Sacrament) they’ll stay golden. The Plan for the Future Obviously I’m taking the Legion of Grief to CanCon. I changed my twitter bio to feature “Number One Legion of Grief” and frankly I can’t come down from that level of behavior. Look forward to a similar list breakdown (and consequent review) in January when we take these ghosts straight to Canberra, Australia.
  4. Dear fellow wargamers, I am a French dude who has entered the second half of his life (maybe his last third) and who has only 6 games of AoS under his belt, and I need you help because I am going to Bloodshed in the Shire in late October. Very important disclaimer: I am not going there to win, I don’t have an optimised list because I more or less don’t care and don’t want to paint 30000 times the same models. So basically, the core motivation behind the following list is the rule of cool. And I don’t plan to buy anything as of today for that tournament. So here are my couple of questions: Should I take my Wight king with baleful tomb blade because I love the sculpt and am pretty proud of my paint job, or the Guardian of souls who would be useful for supporting my chainrasps and be an additional wizard? Should I take 2*5 or 1*10 Black knights? Should I take 2*3 or 1*6 Spirit hosts ? Which endless should I take to complete and go to 2000 points? Thanks in advance people Allegiance: Grand Host of Nagash Mortal Realm: Shyish Leaders (850 / 870) Vampire Lord (140) Arkhan the Black Mortarch of Sacrament (340) Spirit Torment (120) Necromancer (130) Option Wight King with Baleful Tomb Blade (120) Guardian of Souls with Nightmare Lantern (140) Battleline (380) 20 x Chainrasp Horde (160) 10 x Grave Guard with Great Wight Blades (140) 10 x Skeleton Warriors with Ancient spears (80) Units (680) 5 x Black Knights (120) 5 x Black Knights (120) 2 x Morghast Harbingers with Spirit halberds (200) 3 x Spirit Hosts (120) 3 x Spirit Hosts (120) Endless Spells / Terrain (50) Purple Sun of Shyish (50) option Soulsnare Shackles (40) (if Wight king) Malevolent Maelstrom (10) (if Guardian of souls) Suffocating gravetide (20) (if Guardian of souls) Total: 1960/1980 Extra Command Points: 0 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 117
  5. Hello all, here I have 2 lists themed around the Monstrous Arcanum, thus using the Grand Alliance: Destruction rules. I know I should play for what I enjoy, but I like the sound of them both equally and cannot decide, so I'm putting it forward to you people and with being relatively new to AoS I was hoping to get some criticisms on the lists relating to competitive play and how they would perform. List 1: Allegiance: Destruction | Realms of Battle: Hysh Leaders: Grot Shaman = 80 points - General | Artefact: Aetherquartz Brooch | Command Trait: Ravager Battleline: 20x Grots /w Jabbin’ Spears and shields = 100 points 20x Grots /w Grot Bow = 100 points 20x Grots /w Grot Bow = 100 points Behemoths: Magma Dragon = 540 points Magma Dragon = 540 points Magma Dragon = 540 points Total = 2000 points Game plan: Magma Dragons: Fly around as a pack, or individually if required and roast anything within range Grots: Hold objectives and pick off any stranglers that may be lurking too close for comfort to the Magma Dragons with their bows. The ones with spears and shields are simply a screen Grot Shaman: A source of magic, be it for defence, offence or something else. ——————————————————————— Now, the next list is more themed and probably less competitive but here it is. List 2: Allegiance: Destruction | Realms of Battle: Ghur Leader: Fimirach Noble = 140 points - General | Artefact: Gryph-feather Charm | Command Trait: Wild Fury Madcap Shaman = 80 points Battleline: Fimir Warriors x6 = 280 points Fimir Warriors x6 = 280 points Fimir Warriors x3 = 140 points Behemoths: Magma Dragon = 540 points Magma Dragon = 540 points Total = 2000 points Game plan: Magma Dragons: Fly around as a duo, or individually if required and roast anything within range. Fimir Warriors: To hold objectives/ provide support for the Magma Dragons or pose a threat, since in comparison to the Grots they hit a lot harder, and are a lot harder to get rid of. Fimirach Noble: Sit around the Fimir Warriors and use his command ability buff all the Fimir Warriors.
  6. Hello all, I was just looking at getting into destruction, but wanted a more 'mythical monsters' themed list and opted for Fimir. I vaguely remember a pdf saying that if you had the Fimirach Noble as general, then the Fimir Warriors became battleline. Using the Azyr app though, when I select the Fimirach Noble as a general the Fimir Warriors are not a battleline option. So I was just wondering if I could get any clarification on this at all. If they are battleline, this is the list i was looking at going for: Play Type: Matched Play | Game Type: Battlehost | Grand Alliance: Destruction | Allegiance: Destruction Realm of Battle: GHUR, The Realm of BEASTS Leaders: - Fimirach Noble = 140 points - General: Gryph-feather Charm & Wild Fury - Madcap Shaman = 80 points Battleline: - Fimir Warriors x 6 = 280 points - Fimir Warriors x 6 = 280 points - Fimir Warriors x 3 = 140 points Behemoths: - Magma Dragon = 540 points - Magma Dragon = 540 points Total = 2000 points
  7. Hi all! Recently I have joined the world of Warhammer AoS and chose to start a Nighthaunt collection. I own 1770p worth of army, but decided to start playing with 500p to practice the rules. Tonight I played 3 matches against friends and lost all of them. What I noticed is that being completely new to the AoS rules made me kind of drown in them. I had a hard time making decisions, choosing tactics and even thinking about all the rules that are within my grasp. Therefore I would like to ask all of you what my best pick&play would be to practice NH's playstyle, considering 500p play. My enemies are mainly Daughters of Khaine, Idoneth Deepkin and Karadron. My current collection exists of the Soul wars box half and previous purchases : - Leaders : Olynder, Kurdoss, mKoS, GoS, Lord Exe, 3 Spirit Torment, Vampire Lord (ally) Units: 30 chainrasp, 4 chainghasts, 8 glavewraith stalkers, 5 grimghast (which are not playable in official play?) Looking forward to all your tips and tricks! Buying a lot of different units is not preferred but I'm okay with expanding with a unit of Spirit Hosts for example! That's a relatively cheap one Grtngs, Knighthound (yes, pun intended)
  8. +++ Updated 1k List, Below +++ Hello everyone, This is my first post on TGA! I've chosen Maggotkin of Nurgle for my first AoS army. I would like some veterans to give me advice as I plan on having my first game soon. I currently own all the models for the 1,000 point list: HQ: Lord of Blights - 140 HQ: Poxbringer - 120 Battleline: 5x Blightkings - 160 Battleline: 5x Blightkings - 160 Battleline: 10x Plaguebarers - 120 Plague Drones: 3x - 200 Nurglings 3x - 100 Thank you in advance ? ++ I removed the 2k list as I'd like to build a 1k list first ++
  9. Building a Skaven List Clan Moulder Rats on rats. Moudler is the Skaven clan characterised by two things; the massive weight of monsters and numbers it can bring to the table, and the staple reliance it’s players have on Forgeworld. A cursory look at the Moulder GW line will give you an entire Online Order Only army, most of which has lacklustre rules. Fortunately, daddy Forgeworld has our back. Brood Horrors and Wolf Rats are massively underutilized Skaven units but are both absolutely fantastic units, and very strong in the current meta. Building a Better Rat Moulder have no battalions since the gutting of the clawpacks, and no allegiance abilities either. This means we’re going high drop counts, and we’re going in with one artefact. A Moulder list hinges on it’s Packmasters, a specialized hero who provides a swathe of buffs to nearby Moulder monsters. He can whip a nearby unit to make it charge further and hit harder, and Moulder units near him double their bravery during the battleshock phase. Their battleline options are the cheap swarms of Giant Rats that get better the more there are, and the hard hitting Rat Ogors. Go Big or Go Home You have 4 behemoth slots at 2k games, and we need to fill all 4. The best unit for the job is the Brood Horror, a Forgeworld warscroll who boasts an impressive combat profile and the ability to heal itself for d3 wounds every turn. The Hellpit Abomination is also a contender for this slot, but their higher points cost, lack of durability and random modifiers tend to make them subpar compared to the Brood Horror. You’ll need speedy units for objectives, and again Forgeworld provides with the Wolf Rats. These fast moving units hit hard on the charge and are great targets for Packmaster buffs. The final piece of the puzzle is something that can tie the enemy up and keep them from counter-charging your Horrors and Wolves, and what better for this than massive units of Giant Rats. Their stats decline horrifically as they lose models, but at their best these things will slam hard into enemy infantry. Imperfect Monsters The army’s weaknesses lie in it’s vulnerability to battleshock and bravery shenanigans, it’s lack of wizards and absence of reliable shooting. Strong units to ally can be the Verminlord Corruptor, who’s command ability will aid your army while also providing a valuable wizard, and the Gutter Runners of Eshin who flank behind your horde and harass support heroes. Pestilens Plague Priests can buff the army’s wound rolls and allow rerolls to wound, making Giant Rats and Wolf Rats even more lethal on impact. The Horde Unleashed Here I’ve constructed a list designed to capitalize on the impact of the army. Given the enemy will be deciding who goes first more than likely, the best case scenario is going second and setting up a double turn. Praying for Wither on the enemy and then hitting them with the Giant Rats, as well as flashing the same enemy with the Plague Tome, will ensure the Giant Rats annihilate the front row. This leaves the Brood Horrors free to advance and take hit buffs from the Packmasters. Allegiance: Moulder Leaders Packmaster (60) - General - Herding Whip & Blade - Trait: Malicious Conqueror - Artefact: Crown of Conquest Packmaster (60) - Herding Whip & Blade Packmaster (60) - Herding Whip & Blade Verminlord Corruptor (220) - Allies Plague Priest with Plague Censer (80) - Allies Plague Priest with Plague Censer (80) - Allies Battleline 40 x Giant Rats (200) 40 x Giant Rats (200) 10 x Giant Rats (60) 10 x Giant Rats (60) Units 10 x Wolf Rats (200) 10 x Wolf Rats (200) Behemoths Brood Horror (160) Brood Horror (160) Brood Horror (160) Total: 1960 / 2000 Extra Command Points: 0 Allies: 380 / 400 Wounds: 195 This is one hell of a lot of bodies. Hit up your local Pestilens player for their spare decorative rats to get a lot of Giant Rats quickly. Purchase a can of Mournfang Brown and a small bucket of Agrax Earthshade. And finally, develop both an intimate understanding of the British Pound exchange rate and the virtue of patience as you deal with our Forgeworld Overlords.
  10. This is 2 lists i've made and i was hoping to get some good advice or comments on what to to further evolve this into a more competetive one or just to hear your thoughts on what you like and don't. so too explain the thought process behind this in a very short review: 80 point wizard with Chronomantic Cogs to further help my dudes fly up the board + some MW spells to help around. Warboss + Megaboss to combine the command abilities to get 2 extra attacks. Guzzler because with MS i think it has got a place in this list (maw krusha to expensive) and i wanted some big support. Ironfist for the movement and som extra wounds. Gruntas and/or Ard boyz depending on you comments and critical views of one of the lists or both. Brutes because Brutes Da Best! warchanters are always good? 2 CP to start with and a variety of models to both have fun and smack som heads in. anything i've missed or something you've discovered in the new edition that could be good to know?
  11. This blog by request, we'll be covering Stoneklaw's Gutstompas, an allegiance ability available in the Firestorm book. This isn't too undercover of a choice, it's popped up in the AOS 6 Nations tournament and it's gaining traction, so now would be the perfect time to hammer out a write up. Why Gutstompa's? So this allegiance's requirements are a lot less stringent than all the others. It basically allows all of the old warhammer fantasy Orks and Goblins, as well as the new Ironjawz and the Giant mixed in. So if you happened to build a Spiderfang army when the skirmish box came out, bought a lot of the Greenskinz Start Collecting or are jumping on the Moonclan HYPETRAIN and need something to transtition into once they nerf you into the floor, here is the place to be. Let's see what it offers. Confusion. What on earth are these strategems? What do they mean? Well think of these as two randomized allegiance abilities for your army (You had none beforehand and this costs nothing, so random is hardly a downside) that you roll for before each game. Here's a list of the stratagems. Some of these aren't amazing, and that's fair. Some of these are completely insane. ESPECIALLY considering the one that gives you a free unit back doesn't cost reinforcement points like it did when this was written. But how best to make a list that makes adequate use of these traits while not being directly tailored to them to compensate for randomosity? Let's take a swing. Allegiance: Stoneklaw's Gutstompas Leaders Orruk Warboss (140) - Great Waaagh Banner Grot Warboss (100) - Git Cuttas Arachnarok Spider With Grot Shaman (280) - General - Trait: Bellowing Tyrant Battleline 40 x Orruks (280) - Pair of Choppas 40 x Orruks (280) - Pair of Choppas 60 x Moonclan Grots (360) - Stabbas & Moon Shields Units 5 x Grot Spider Riders (100) 5 x Grot Spider Riders (100) 5 x Grot Spider Riders (100) War Machines Grot Spear Chukka (120) Grot Spear Chukka (120) Total: 1980 / 2000 Extra Command Points: 0 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 208 Ok so I definitely went in with the Moonclan combo where you double the damage of a Moonclan unit, because it's good and I'd be a fool not to. Backing that up are two max size units of Orruks to form a decent shield wall while the spider riders and their Arachnarok swarm objectives and push elite infantry off them with their mortal wound output. The three characters synergize well with the unit options taken, and the two artillery choices are great at taking out enemy heroes (great for Duality of Death). Let me know what you think and what you'd like to see next.
  12. Ever wondered how cool the Saurus Knights would look if their mounts weren't goofy as hell? Step this way. The Order Serpentis represents a portion of the old Dark Elf line that has been bundled together to form a small elite army that's heavily themed on it's love for drakespawn and dark dragons. They're fast, mobile and very durable, and the low model count and awesome centrepiece model means it's easy to get started. Where do I start? As per the usual, we need a hero and two battleline choices at least before we look at anything else. Picking a hero is easy, after all you've only got one. The Dreadlord on Black Dragon is no joke however, the dragon's already deadly combat profile is accenuated by the character riding it, unlike the sorceress version this guy packs a mean punch. Your battleline options are both things we'll be taking anyway, the Drakespawn Knights and the Drakespawn Chariots, both charge focused, durable melee bruisers. Where to next? More chariots and knights, more more more. And to spice up the mix, lets throw in a War Hydra or two. These nasty behemoths are melee focused beasts with a decent shooting attack and a monster stat profile that doesn't get dramaticaly weaker as it takes wounds. But here's the kicker, the hydra heals itself for THREE wounds in each of your hero phase. Three wounds, not d3. This means it's frustratingly difficult to chip down and any enemy trying to whittle it down and tie it up with chaff will quickly discover it's not locked up with them, they're locked up with it. I would reccomend building around the Ebondrake Warhost batalliob, for the cost of a Dreadlord on Dragon, 2 - 3 Drakespawn, 1 - 2 Chariots and 1 - 3 Hydras you get to reroll all wound rolls of one, and once per game everything within 8 inches of the Dreadlord can charge in the hero phase. What to ally? In this, the age of magic, we need some spellcasters. The Order Serpentis can ally from any of the old dark elf model lines, as well as Stormcast Eternals and Idoneth Deepkin. We're going to stick with the cheaper stuff because Stormcast and Deepkin casters tend to be focused more towards their army's playstyle, a style we don't fit. The Sorceress is always a nice choice, and you can always take a Scourge Privateer Fleetmaster for 40 points to fill out your hero slots for certain scenarios. In that vein of thinking, a few cheap Black Ark Corsairs to hold objectives is rarely a bad thing. But wait, there's more I swear to god I plug the Firestorm Allegiance abilities so much Games Workshop should be paying me by the post, but seeing as you won't be allying Stormcast or Deepkin your army will fit the requirements for the fre city Anvilgard. Now this free city is my favorite (I'm building around it curently, post to come). With a highly mobile army you can rope around the enemy and cause the to just straight up die because they can't get far enough away from you. Better yet, this allows your Drakespawn Chariots to charge again and again, constantly refreshing their charge based bonuses. Let's take a look at what we can hammer out from this. Allegiance: Order Serpentis Mortal Realm: Ulgu Leaders Dreadlord On Black Dragon (320) - General - Lance of Spite & Shield - Trait: Inspiring Sorceress (100) - Allies Sorceress (100) - Allies Black Ark Fleetmaster (40) - Allies Battleline 5 x Drakespawn Knights (140) 5 x Drakespawn Knights (140) 5 x Drakespawn Knights (140) 2 x Drakespawn Chariots (160) 2 x Drakespawn Chariots (160) Units 10 x Black Ark Corsairs (80) - Vicious Blade & Repeater Handbow - Allies 10 x Black Ark Corsairs (80) - Vicious Blade & Repeater Handbow - Allies Behemoths War Hydra (180) War Hydra (180) Battalions Ebondrake Warhost (150) Total: 1970 / 2000 Extra Command Points: 1 Allies: 400 / 400 Wounds: 127 The plan here is simple, set up for a turn two charge into the enemy, and then from there hopefully get a few Anvilgard rolls off at the start of your hero phase before promptly using the batallion to charge into the enemies that just ran away from you. While this is going on, the corsairs make a break for the objectives while providing Look Out Sir protection to the Sorceresses, who focus on dispelling spells and using Word of Pain on big enemy units. The Fleetmaster is here purely for an extra hero to hold objectives, he's only 40pts so might as well pick him up. This list is a fun elite army to run with, I myself have a lot of the models to make it and plan to get started once I've finished my existing projects.
  13. When Byron Orde gallivanted his way to immortality when he won the Grand Tournament with a mixed Order list that heavily featured a focus on phoenixes, I was curious. Would it be possible to build a list around these majestic, obnoxiously invincible and gorgeous models? Clearly. Could it be done while remaining in the Phoenix Temple allegiance? Probably harder but lets take a swing. Where to start? As ever, we need at least a single hero and two battleline. The heroes available to the Phoenix Temple are the two phoenix variants being ridden by Annoited, and the Annoited on foot. Now oddly, there's no price difference in points for mounting an Annoited on a phoenix, so there's no point magnetizing them. Both phoenixes have the ability to enhance their saves if a spell is cast near them, and the fire phoenix gets to deal mortal wounds if it glides over someone while the ice phoenix is harder to hit. I would start with the Frostheart, and add the Flamespire as the list develops. The only available battleline are the super elite Phoenix Guard. They get two saves and are immune to battleshock if hanging out near a hero from their allegiance. They're very expensive so stick with using them wisely, hold objectives and behave sensibly. Where to next? Phoenix Temple has one of those big batallions some armies were assigned in the opening days of the game. The Spyreheart Warhost is built from an Annoited on foot, 2 units of Phoenix Guard and between 2 and 4 of the Phoenixes with or without Annoited riding them. The benefit of this is the Phoenixes get to band together and shoot fire at a nearby enemy, growing stronger for every phoenix within 9 inches of said enemy unit. At 130 points, this batallion is cheap enough to justify taking two of for the extra relics and command points. What do we ally? Easiest question all day. Cheap, mobile spellcasters. If they have good spells, neat. But their real purpose is making the phoenixes imposible to harm with their save buff. The top picks here are the Loremaster (Hand of Glory is a great spell on a phoenix), the Wanderers Spellweaver (Auto-Unbind scroll for the win), anything from the recently open Sacrosanct Chamber for the Stormcast, and if you truly want to go balls to the wall, an Archmage mounted on a dragon. Being able to ally in cheap units to spam for objectives would be desirable, but we need the spellcasters so its hard to justify. Lets see what I managed to whip up. Allegiance: Phoenix Temple Leaders Anointed (80) Anointed Of Asuryan On Flamespyre Phoenix (380) - General - Trait: Tenacious Anointed Of Asuryan On Frostheart Phoenix (280) Anointed Of Asuryan On Frostheart Phoenix (280) Archmage (100) Loremaster (140) Battleline 10 x Phoenix Guard (140) 10 x Phoenix Guard (140) 10 x Phoenix Guard (140) 10 x Phoenix Guard (140) Battalions Spyreheart Warhost (130) Total: 1950 / 2000 Extra Command Points: 2 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 91 Already we can see this list's weakness, it's lack of bodies. We knew that going in, this is NOT a horde army. With every unit being super durable, it's at least a bit more forgiving in that regard. The goal here is to get the 3 Phoenixes up in the enemy's face while the mages keep them saved up and dangerous. The Phoenix Guard make use of those command points to roll 6s to run and take objectives quickly before the enemy can reach them. But wait, there's more! One last thing. If you've bothered to read my previous posts, I've talked about the Firestorm Allegiances. It just so happens this little list I've built happens to fit the requirements for one of said Free Cities... Yeah, take your magic and shove it where Sigmar's holy light doth not shine you wretched Maggotkin/Arcanite/Lord of Sacrement. Magic is going to be HUGE this edition. Quote me on that. Screenshot it if you must. Magic is going to be LETHAL. And this right here is what we might call an insurance policy. Better yet, it's just a free allegiance ability. This costs you nothing, you still get to keep the Grand Alliance Order rules and traits. Mix in the fact your temple is from Hysh (Hallowheart isn't in Hysh but just roll with it) and take that Lens of Refraction and your oponent just won't get a word in. Take it for a spin. As always, I am not responsible for your actions and don't tag me in your YouTube video where you barbecue your army.
  14. Coming in HOT after a small points reduction to some key units it's Destruction's finest multi-wound, semi elite force. This faction is packed with solid, durable units and very few of them deal less than 2 damage with each swing of their weapon and some brutal syngergies. Where to start? Well obviously we need to get a hero and at least two battleline choices. Starting with the Hero choice, the Gutbusters have two of these. The Tyrant is a melee bruiser who can smack most other heroes into line, with a randomly generated bonus trait not unlike a command trait and a toasty command ability that lets him inflict D3 mortal wounds on a friendly Gutbuster unit to make it totally immune to battleshock. The Butcher is the wizard choice, usually taken with the optional Great Cauldron option that gives him a random ability that can heal or harm. Obviously with only two hero choices, we'll probably end up having some of each of these two. As battleline goes, you've got Ogors (generic battleline), and Leadbelchers and Ironguts (Gutbusters battleline). The Ogors are your rank and file, packing 4 wounds and decent damage. The Leadbelchers are more of the same but packing decent firearms as well. The Ironguts are your elite infantry, horrifyingly brutal in close combat and capable of taking down basically anything. Where to next? Now we have the foundation, we need to tack on some utility. Often overlooked in this allegiance are the Grots, these cheap little gobbos can net objectives and form decent screens to prevent your valuable troops being closed on by enemy assets. Furthermore, the Tyrant can make them permanently immune to battleshock, which is exceptionally useful. For shooting, Leadbelchers are already passable but to mix some artillery in we have the Grot Scraplauncher (good at dicing hordes) and the Ironblaster (high rend that does ok against numbers but is better served shooting at high wound single models. Also weirdly good at close combat). There's also Gorgers, a flanking option that's also relatively cheap. They are made from finecast however, so consider converting some out of Flesh Eater Crypt Haunters. Adding in Allies Keeping with the Ogor theme, both the Stonehorn and Thundertusk Beastriders can be allied in at 2k points, and the Frostlord on either mount can tag along at 2.5k. For less extravegant options consider the Maneaters, an elite Ogor unit which is both flexible and fun to convert up, and various trolls from the Troggoths units for some seriously durable units. The Finished Product Allegiance: Gutbusters Leaders Tyrant (160) - Massive Ogor Club Butcher (140) Butcher (140) Battleline 6 x Ogors (240) - Ogor Clubs or Blades with Iron Fists 6 x Ogors (240) - Ogor Clubs or Blades with Iron Fists 3 x Leadbelchers (140) 3 x Leadbelchers (140) 6 x Ironguts (360) Units 60 x Grots (270) 1 x Ironblaster (120) Total: 1950 / 2000 Extra Command Points: 1 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 187 In this list I opted out of any allies and doubled down hard on the powerful options already available to the faction. I left 50 points out to get an extra command point for a turn one Tyrant hits the grots and makes them immune to battleshock, then burn another command point if I dont roll a 6 on the grot run to get them right out in front of the army spread out. The slow moving Ogors can move up behind this grot phalanx (which will inevtiably die once sneezed on) until the enemy is within firing range. Their durability will allow the Ogors to hold the objecctives easily against the enemy. Any Gutbusters players reading, definitely comment if I've missed anything. You guys are the real heroes.
  15. The North Island Convention, or NICon, was held this year in Napier, New Zealand. For many players NICon was the last tournament they would play in using the General's Handbook 2017 edition, and with the tournament organizer looking for a good narrative theme with unconventional battleplans most players took lists very different to what they would normally run. The battleplans were constructed by using the Open War cards Games Workshop produced earlier in the year, and they made for some very interesting matches with armies usually not favorable in the matchup prevailing over their opponents. Results 1st Place - Fraser, Maggotkin of Nurgle 2nd Place - Matt B, Legion of Blood 3rd Place - Jesse, Clan Skryre Best Painted - Matt W, Destruction Grand Alliance Most Kill Points - Matt B, Legion of Blood Best Sportsmanship - Lee, Sylvaneth Fraser came out ahead with his Maggotkin of Nurgle list, winning 5 out of 5 games. Matt came in close behind with his extremely elite death army (only 19 models) after killing almost every enemy army he faced completely, and Jesse following up in third with Clan Skryre and the iconic Gautfyre Skorch list. Best Painted was won by Matt W, recieving every single available vote except his own, a class act. Lee topped the Sportsmanship votes, while still managing to finish in the top half of the field defying the best sports pattern. The tournament was considered an overwhelming success for the community, particularly because while it was situated in Napier (3 hours drive from the capital city) and not a single Age of Sigmar player was based there, we still had a solid field with everyone that could making the trip. Everyone put in and got a place to say in nearby Havelock North so we had the whole field of players drinking till around 2am on the Saturday night of the weekend which made for an awesome tournament. The majrity of the players who competed in this event will be attending the Call to Arms tournament in the first weekend of August so it will be interesting to see how things go and where everyone finishes up. Full Tournament Results 1st - Fraser, Maggotkin of Nurgle 2nd - Matt B, Legion of Blood 3rd - Jesse, Clan Skryre 4th - Lee, Sylvaneth 5th - Aiden, Clan Pestilens 6th - Shaun T - Khorne 7th - Brendan, Sylvaneth 8th - Cameron, Seraphon 9th - Shaun B, Stormcast Eternals 10th - Nick, Ironjawz 11th - Matt W, Destruction Grand Alliance 12th - Seth, Destruction Grand Alliance Aiden - Clan Pestilens.pdf Brendan - Sylvaneth.pdf Cameron - Seraphon.pdf Fraser - Nurgle.pdf Jesse - Clan Skryre.pdf Lee - Sylvaneth.pdf Shaun T - Khorne.pdf Shaun B - Stormcast Eternals.pdf Matt W - Destruction.pdf Nick - Ironjawz.pdf Seth - Destruction.pdf Matt B - Legion of Blood.pdf
  16. Hi everyone, When looking through this forum, I normally find quite a few threads concerning the lacking ability of destruction armies. This thread is not intended to function as a criticism to those post, it is however the intention to look at the bright side of things. So, the concept is that each time you win a game with a destruction army, mixed or full - then share your list, and context when applicable. In order to kick it off, I will go first. The context of my latest success was a thursday session with the group I normally play Age of Sigmar with. The theme of the session was 1k combat, so I brought the following mixed destruction list: Fungoid Cave-shaman (General) Mega-Boss Butcher Troggoth Hag Moonclan Grots (Battleline) Savage Orruks (Battleline) My opponent fielded a 1k Brayherd list and the game was quite even, but especially the Mega-Boss and Troggoth Hag gave me the upper hand due to damage output and staying power, despite being outnumbered and surrounded. Let us hear your success!
  17. So I have 20 gors and 10 ungor raiders that I have assembled a few years ago but shelved. I am thinking about actually building a brayherd/warherd army. I'm not really a tournament player so I don't want a cheese list, and I would expect that beastmen aren't really a cheesy army anyway. I was thinking something like this for 1500 pts: Allegiance: ChaosBeastlord (80)- Man-ripper Axe & Brayshield20 x Gors (160)- Gor-Blades & Beastshields20 x Gors (160)- Gor-Blades & Beastshields20 x Gors (160)- Gor-Blades & Beastshields20 x Ungor Raiders (200)20 x Bestigors (280)3 x Bullgors (180)- Great Axes5 x Centigors (80)Ghorgon (200)Total: 1500 / 2000Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 141
  18. Hi, I’m trying to make a good 1500p/2000p list for a tournament as well gameplay with some friends. And I would love to get some help/tips from experienced Death players! The picture in this topic is all the miniatures I own. I’ve made two lists I think would work fine, so some review on those lists would be appriciated! (NOTE: Mannfred is the General and has the vile transference and Arkhan has the amaranthine orb!)
  19. Ok guys I need some help making a 1000pt death list which MUST include Arkhan. I do already have a simple 1000pt death list but I have a game coming up in a week which I need to include Arkhan for reasons. I'm stuck making a list that'll actually work so maybe one of you amazing people have some awesome ideas Thanks for the help!
  20. Jimbopdid

    Death 1k list

    Starting to dabble in death rather then my first love (skaven) so I’ve devised a good starting 1k list: X1 Manfred X1 Wight King Baleful Tomb Blade X10 Skeleton Warriors X10 Black Knights X10 Grave Guard Opinions?
  21. So, i'm entering my first tournament at the end of next week and I've come up with this list. What I need is for you guys to help me out and tell me if i need to change this. It looks light on dudes to me, but i could be wrong! Leader Arkhan the Black Necromancer Necromancer Battleline 10 Dire Wolves 30 Skeleton Warriors (spears) Other Corpse Cart (Unholy Lodestone) Should I split the wolves to two 5 man groups so I can hold more objectives? Am I missing something that i overlooked? Any and all help appreciated!
  22. Hey I want to play a 1k Maggotkin of Nurgle competitive list, and i hope ye guys can help a fellow Nurgling out You may make a list with units i don't have, if it is competitive i will buy it What i have: 1 Gutrot Spume 1 Lord of Blights 1 Poxbringer 1 Daemon Prince 10 Plaguebearers 6 Plague Drones 6 Nurglings 10 Putrid Blightkings Any Models i should buy? Thanks
  23. Hi I'm still working in a Maggotkin 2K list and I need some advice. What di you think about below list? Any changes? Thanks in advance. LEADERS *GUO *Poxbringer *Sorcerer *Gutrot/Lord of Blights/Lord of Plagues BATTLELINE *30 Plaguebearers *10 Putrid Blightkings *5 Putrid Blightkings OTHER *6 Plague Drones I'm not sure about the Rotbringer Leader. Gutrot to infiltrate 10 P.B., L.o.Blights to shoot or L.o.Plagues to re-roll 1s There are 80 points left to do some changes
  24. Hi there guys! Recently I started AoS with a friend of mine. After a while we have a few miniatures and we are looking to play a game. We decided that we will play at 600 points. I have the following miniatures: Montarch. Wight King with Black Axe. 10 Skeletons with Spears. 10 Dire Wolves. 5 Black Knights. This is thw list I think I'll play: Allegiance: Grand Host of Nagash Leaders Arkhan The Black Mortarch of Sacrament (320) - Lore of the Dead: Fading Vigour (Deathmages) Wight King with Black Axe (120) - General - Trait: Lord of Nagashizzar - Artefact: Ossific Diadem Battleline 5 x Dire Wolves (60) 10 x Skeleton Warriors (80) - Ancient Blades Total: 580 / 2000 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 36 After this I've been think about buying the next things to comolete my army I hope you can give me your feedback: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Battleforce-Blade-Of-The-Blood-Queen-2017 https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Deathrattle-Barrow-Lords https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Deathlords-Nagash My plan is having 40 Skellies Spear30 Grave Guard Great Wight Blade 30 Dire Wolves 10 Black Knights 2 Archais Arkham Nagash 2 Necromancers.
  25. I think Wanderers are slightly under-appreciated, and hear me out: Yes, they are extremely fragile. But as a shooty-alpha strike they can ruin people. Here's a list concept I've been playing around with: Allegiance: WanderersLeadersNomad Prince (80)- General- Trait: Stalker of the Hidden Paths - Artefact: Starcaster Longbow Wayfinder (100)Wayfinder (100)Wayfinder (100)Wayfinder (100)Wayfinder (100)Battleline30 x Eternal Guard (210)- Wanderers Battleline30 x Glade Guard (360)30 x Glade Guard (360)30 x Glade Guard (360)Units1 x Gryph-Hound (40)- Allies10 x Skinks (60)- Meteoric Javelins & Star Bucklers- AlliesTotal: 1970 / 2000Allies: 100 / 400Wounds: 163 I would deploy them turtled up on one side hugging a board edge (keeping one model from each unit within 6" of the Nomad Prince), and in my first turn I would strike. This is an alpha-strike list pure and simple. Everything teleports up aggressively to be in range of the enemy. Eternal guard go in front of the units so that I have the possibility to fade away next turn. But here's the breakdown of averages: Everyone congo-lines to get one model from each unit within 8" of the Nomad Prince when they arrive from Realm Wanderers Each Wayfinder does their once-per-game 3d6 shots. That's 15d6 shots that are 3/3/-1/1 and reroll 1s. 27 wounds at -1 on average. 1.5 wounds with no rend from Hawks The 90 Glade Guard then also pop their once-per-game -3 shots. So 90 shots at 3/4/-3/1 and reroll 1s as well. 32.5 wounds at -3 on average. That's enough on average to wipe out several units. Kill 50-60% of the unit and let the rest battleshock off. Can try and snipe heroes, warmachines, etc. But even if they managed to completely bubblewrap the heroes, it will still wipe out the front line in one volley. There's an option I'm weighing for the list: Lose Wanderers allegiance and go Living City Allegiance from Firestorm. This lets me take generic order traits(cool), but it also means, crucially, that I can hold everything in reserve and deep strike them on. So I can be completely immune to Gaunt Summoner, Helstorm/Ordinator, etc, and get my first strike guaranteed. But I lose long-game flexibility of continued redeployment... Thoughts? Am I totally over-reacting, or is 32 -3 wounds and 27 -1 wounds alot for an alpha strike?
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