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3 hours ago, TheHeartbreakPrince said:
Sounds like a skill issue
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19 minutes ago, Twisted Firaun said:
Maybe we will finally see the scuttlings from Silver Tower finally turned into an actual kit?
I have a feeling that this edition will be the edition where GW "fulfills" a great deal of long time fan wish listing. We're getting a mass Skaven update, they've shut down the third-party guys who produced not-chaos-dwarfs and have increasingly teased proper chorfs in aos, Darkoath have arrived to replace Chaos Marauders, and the freaking Silent People got a lore article. Of course, I could be completely wrong but it's nice to have hope.
Tyrion, please. No more flying squirrels, seahorses or giant cows.
Give us the real god of the Lumineth, not this pyjama nerd.
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5 hours ago, Kronos said:
The Year is 2074, 10 years after the Civil strife in Warhammer World HQ
Interestingly, THWG talked on the show the other day about new 3d printers that print pre-coloured minis. Although these exist now, the upcoming new generation offer resolution high enough that its the equivalent of a Golden Demon paint job.
Makes you wonder whether GW will still be around in 50 years, or even 10 years. Or if it is, what it's business model will look like.
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15 minutes ago, elescapo said:
I'm not arguing that they are continually updated with FAQ's and errata, just that they survived the edition rollover, which is the central point of the debate about Grombrindal.
That's a 3e warscroll for Swifthawk Chariots. If Legends are written once and never touched again, it shouldn't exist.
In 40k, Legends got new datasheets for 10e when they completely rewrote the rules. Will they do the same for AoS? I would think so.
Thanks for setting me right! That's slightly more hopeful.
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27 minutes ago, CommissarRotke said:
if they're doing this for a LARGE chunk of squatted models, why wouldn't they include more of existing Legends during their rewrites..?
Once again: the squatted models are not going to legends. They're getting matched play rules. Those rules cease being matched play legal next year.
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5 minutes ago, Marcvs said:
It's a nice thought, but I cannot fail but notice that, even before the official announcement of the removal, Bonesplitterz were completely ignored by battlescolls for quite a while. My expectation is a very minimal effort for both the indexes and the updating thereof (unless there's something completely out of whack there)
Yes, you can see the direction of travel in that BoC didn't receive any points tweak in the latest battlescroll, after the squatting announcement.
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1 minute ago, CommissarRotke said:
FTA https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/04/whats-leaving-the-warhammer-age-of-sigmar-range/
Two factions, Beasts of Chaos and Bonesplitterz, as well as a number of older Stormcast Eternals from the Sacrosanct and Warrior chambers, will be receiving free-to-download digital battletomes. These will feature new background and rules, and will be considered legal for use in competitive play until summer 2025. At this point they will move over to Warhammer Legends, and will no longer be supported for competitive play.
We encourage you to continue using your collection for casual play, and we will continue to support this content with rules and balance updates as needed throughout the edition.
if everything is getting rewritten and GW has plans for updating Legends in 2025, I don't really see a reason to think everything in Legends 3e will disappear for good.
I think you're getting confused. They're giving matched play rules to those squatted units. By summer 2025, they will be moved to legends.
It doesn't say they're updating legends warscrolls. For instance, GW won't rewrite the warscrolls for old legends units like the chaos warmammoth or the sky cutter chariot, so they can be used in 4th edition.
Grombrindal will be in that category, as a 3rd ed legend warscroll that won't be updated in 4th edition.
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7 minutes ago, CommissarRotke said:
I don't understand, GW has said they will be updating Legends rules for 4e? They are even keeping all of the squatted Legends rules up to date until 5e.
Grombrindal is going straight to legends, of course he'll get a 4e scroll...
He'll get a 3rd edition warscroll, as he'll be released next month. GW has no history of updating legends warscrolls.
Because of changes to bravery and other mechanics, all 3rd edition legends warscrolls will automatically become invalid at the turn of the edition. Therefore Grombrindal will automatically become invalid at 4th edition.
I think what you're getting confused about is that bonesplitterz, beasts etc are getting indexes. These won't be legends rules. They're matched play rules that will be valid until summer 2025, when they'll go to legends.
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Just now, Ejecutor said:
Yeah, but I don't mind about that. My approach as a collector will be the following. If he can be played for CoS I will buy it. Also, you can always go back to 3rd edition and play him.
I've said it before, so I won't labour the point. But after all the narrative build up, he should have been a permanent part of the range with permanent rules. This is genuinely such a beautiful model, in plastic. I don't see why they can't offer proper rules support for him.
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34 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:
Btw, which kind of rules do we expect for Grombrindal. Will he be able to be played across all the Order factions? Or just FS and KO?
His warscroll will likely exist for two months. Then there will 4th ed, and they will likely not update legends rules. In other words, the only way to use him will be as a proxy. Absolutely gutted about this.
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1 hour ago, pitzok said:
It's a limited comemorative miniature, they never get non-legends rules.
My point is that it would have been far cooler for him to have been a permanent part of the range - a la gotrek. Such a cool model, and would have loved to have seen him on the table regularly.
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1 minute ago, Clan's Cynic said:
Damn, why legends rules
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22 minutes ago, KingBrodd said:
Im also incredibly excited to get my hands on Yndrasta's novel!!
It's a fantastic read. Noah is the best ever AoS author imo.
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23 minutes ago, KingBrodd said:
Really suprised to still see no DB6. It surely has to be next week? Releasing in May just over a month from 4th Edition is cutting it close.
4th prob early July are we thinking?
And yes, it feels super deflating to buy rules that'll be out of date in a month. I just bought two boxes of darkoath, but I'm weirdly not hype at all about them.
It's not like soulblight at the end of second ed. These rules will be invalidated at the turn of the edition.
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7 hours ago, Dragon-knight77 said:
So i wondering what name character are we going to getting soon
like we have a relative idea with SG warhound rumors with Nu-Queek & New Warlock
Irkit please
on the Stormcast all we got is Poster guy but that more on the speculation side whether or not he character or just a unique hero unit
I think we might get a new Hallowed Knight character possibly their own Lord Commander?
That'd be Queek Headtaker my dude. Just hope he's as cool looking as his Total War design.
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Back to rumours - what are the guesses for malign sorcery with 4th?
Will the contents likely be broken up and repackaged into specific spell lores?
Any new generic endless spells?
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22 minutes ago, IrlLordy said:
I think the general acceptance of female stormcast probably went some way to persuading GW that female Custodes would also be accepted.
Not to disparage the entirety of the 40k fan base, but you've got to realise that a scenario where the heroic protagonists are strong, universally male and racially intolerant, has the potential to attract someone of a certain political persuasion...
Those people tend to be quite reactionary toward inclusion as a concept, which they see as an attempt to curb their freedom.
I think it's a difference in political demographics - the AoS community is generally much more mature, tolerant and friendly.
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Just now, Ejecutor said:
I am not sure if someone shared it here the other day, and was not sure if it was fan art or official, or if it was in one of my WhatsApp groups, but it is official:
437135039_7266508853402198_2723846966818472849_n.jpg (1079×1235) (cdninstagram.com)
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Are there still no aos warscrolls for these?
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1 hour ago, Dukeus said:
I hoped for something Else with the New Stormcast.
They Look way to much Like Dark Angels and Black Templars. Feels Like a cheap Copy for me with all These religious Scrolls and the Mini is so busy Overall. I prefer the more Roman asthetik ( Stormstrike Chariot, Praetors) than the religious temple knight Theme.
But there are enough stormcast Minis anyways so i am Happy to skip a few. Maybe These Guys with a different head on a mighty steed could Change my opinion.
Yeah, they need lightning effects! Cracking weapons, glowy eyes, carried aloft by lightning. Instead they're just slightly more religious.
I feel there's a disconnect between the models and the lore.
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1 hour ago, cyrus said:
It is a GW statement and They have been very clear so far .
All the quotes from Warcom articles :
23rd of May 2024
"Certain factions people remember from Warhammer Fantasy Battles are not part of the narrative we’re telling with The Old World, but will be provided with rules at the launch of the game.
- Dark Elves
- Skaven
- Vampire Counts
- Daemons of Chaos
- Ogre Kingdoms
- Lizardmen
- Chaos Dwarfs
These legacy faction army lists will be made available for free as pdfs as a service to fans who have these classic armies on their shelf, so they can still bring them to battle for old times sake."
22th January 2024
"But while these are complete lists, there are no plans to release miniatures to use them with – the rules are intended for people who already have armies in their collection."
5th january 2024 -
“What about the legacy factions?:
Rob (Aldeman): A few of the factions from the previous Warhammer Fantasy Battle game will not feature in Warhammer: The Old World – this is in terms of game rules, model ranges, and the ongoing background narrative. These ‘Legacy’ factions will however get free, downloadable army lists so people can try out the new system using their older model collections. More about this in the coming weeks, though please note that they won’t be considered legal for tournaments, and won’t receive ongoing support.
If you want to come on this long-term journey with us, the factions in the Forces of Fantasy and Ravening Hordes books are the ones to collect and play – and we want to be pretty clear about that!”
In addition :
It will take roughly 2 years to re-release the 9 focused factions ( 1 every 3 months with 3 waves each) and then from Hastings's rumors they will start to release campaign books with FW/GW miniatures moving timeline towards Siege of praag/great war against chaos. Something very similar to Middlearth relaunch in 2018 = same Project Manager Rob Alderman
Hastings was the one who reported first that Bretonnia and Tomb kings kits were back in production in june 2022 for the ToW launch.
I guess what most people are worried about is them being retired completed, a la sacrosanct, with no home in TOW or AoS.
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9 minutes ago, novakai said:
Funny thing is if THWG theory is correct then anytime some 40K player start a Daemon of Chaos army or bought a Daemon prince for their Chaos Marine army, then all that revenue would have been report for AoS because all the daemon stuff (especially product like Be’lekor ) are label as AoS products first and foremost.
AoS and 40k are both main studio. Specialist studio (formerly Forge World) is HH and TOW.
This is why prior to 10th edition, GW remove HH kits (like the leviathan dread) from 40k.
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1 hour ago, Cdance93 said:
I am just not buying this. On any meaningful level only the Group’s balance sheet and P&L matter.
looking through the annual report lightly I don’t see any kind of corporate structure but I would be surprised that a design studio would have its own P&L unless each studio was its own subsidiary within the group.
sure for budgeting they may want to know the actuals for each studios products.
Totally fine my dude. But it's worth pointing out that Rob worked there, his girlfriend did until last year, and as did his close mate Peachy.
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6 minutes ago, MitGas said:
I could now imagine classic Ogors (as their own faction and not part of CoS or something) to get removed as well
It's worth watching this, if you haven't already.
The tldr is that specialist design studio and the main studio have a separate profit and loss sheet. So if product is sold by both departments, it becomes impossible to say which studio reports it as profit.
That's a long way of saying that ogors are 100% safe, because they're not a supported faction in the old world.
Obviously it means the sword of damocles still hangs over dispossessed and spiderfang.
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1 hour ago, Mortal Wound said:
And fourth, GW is demonstrably not that culturally sensitive.
Can I just say, as a working class person from southeast England, that the use of "wot haz we 'ere" type dialogue from orcs/gargants/ogors/any stupid antagonist, plays into negative class stereotypes.
I work in the City of London, which is dominated by public school educated rich boys. I encounter these prejudices every day, where people consider me boneheaded purely because of my accent. It's high time GW stopped punching down.
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The Rumour Thread
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