Jagged Red Lines

It'll be these from earlier in the year

My main concern is that they'll look at sales and deem it unprofitable, then effectively abandon it again. When the real reason sales are low is because they're trying to sell ugly, 30 year old kits for inflated prices.

I think at this point, they may as well just make rules and lore and allow third party sellers at their events. They've spent five years effectively just producing a copy/paste rulebook, rather than using that time to refresh their miniature range. The tomb kings from Highland/Lost Sword are head and shoulders above these for a fraction of the cost.

If it was any other company I'd agree, but knowing firsthand the weird corporate culture at GW HQ, I'm more inclined to believe these rumours.

Vulkyn flameseekers for me

Makes me wonder if they're just going to stop making underworlds as a game. From what I gather, it doesn't have an especially large playerbase, and loads of the warbands aren't sold anymore.

Don't really follow 40k rumours, but new baharroth is apparently teased by Valrak.

Baharroth phoenix lord maybe, if 40k. Or else new stormcast prosecutors, if AoS.

Edit: ignore my idiocy

AoS - in its current iteration - is the best GW game I've ever played, and I've been closely involved in the hobby since 1993. AoS is fast, fun and full of cinematic moments. The miniatures are gorgeous and the armies are fairly well balanced. The community is warm and positive. Some people still have strong feelings about AoS, based on the negativity surrounding the end times, coupled with the lack of rules structure in AoS 1. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I don't think a lot of those people were around at the time. So perhaps their opinions are just inherited from the 'common wisdom' with very little critical thought involved. Regardless, how they see AoS doesn't impinge on my own enjoyment of the game. Honestly, it's not worth being drawn into arguments about it. Let them miss out on a great experience because of their ignorance.

Initially I'd have said 100mm, but looking at it now there's a lot of empty space on there. Given his apparent size, could be a 130mm.

Would love to be wrong, but I think if there was more in book iv we would have seen it in the preview, given that it's likely out in the next month.

Fairly easy to have him be sent back to azyr, in the same way as stormcast.

Looks like 40k boxes sold out in seconds at every flgs.

I think back in June when they started teasing dawnbringers through posters, they had one about the summer king. The art accompanying it was basically just a ghoul king on terrorgheist. I wonder if ushoran is basically just that, but much bigger.

Don't know what you mean. These are the most beautiful sculpts in the game. /s

Fec new launch army box, battletome to follow next year with rest of range. Dawnbringers 4 with ushoran and morghast hero.

Gotta say I hope we have mini centaur faction. Kraggy looks so out of place in almost every destruction army. Would love to see full units of dragon ogor-sized centaurs. Some with bows, some with spears. Centaurs riding centaurs etc.

From what I gather from whitefang, the new ghouls we've seen are more an elite unit in the book, than replacement for existing ghouls. The other hints strongly suggested some type of bat cavalry.

Yeah! I absolutely love it. Offers a completely unique playstyle, which is really what you want from these thematic lists. Also the sylvaneth one looks pretty fun too.

Can I just dedicate this comment in appreciate to @Kitsumy, whose main contribution to this thread is the confused face react. Makes me laugh every time

The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable

I used the void dragon for my prime. I definitely think the official model needs to be a bit more Thor Ragnarok

I think there's a big difference between a competitive player and a competitive format. The game is fundamentally in the latter category by definition - there are winners and losers. That said, I've yet to encounter a person so competitive they were unpleasant to play against. At the last GT I went to, I played against two players who are ranked in the top 10 in the country. They were perfectly lovely human beings, and the games were lighthearted and full of banter. There were several moments where units may have just been out range, where my opponent gave me the benefit of the doubt. And allowed me to take back my move after they explained what their units did in combat. I got absolutely thrashed, tabled in the second or third turns, but the atmosphere was always pleasant and afterwards we had a chat about what decisions I could have made to have the game go another way. This game is a social experience, and even at the highest competitive end of the game, you have a duty to your opponent to ensure they have a good time. I think that's the attitude that makes the AoS competitive community so great, (especially compared to 40k!)

This sounds reasonable, but I'd have to disagree. The people who play majority of time outside of events are actually more hardcore. The best players are invariably the ones who have got 'reps' in with an army. They play weekly, at a gaming club. They might not do events, but through regular gaming, they have honed their skills as a general and in the majority of cases are better players. Then you have someone like my mates who are all middle-aged with families, who meet up once a month at a pub for a three game tournament. We are 'competitive event players' but most of us are ******, because we don't play as often as we should. But neither do we berate other people, or else make them feel bad, for playing units that are the most points efficient choices in their respective books. All I'm saying is that people who play the game with any degree of regularity, whether that's at events or clubs, do in fact care about unit choices and list building. GW should recognise that people do play their game, and perhaps at times it might be worthwhile recognising that in tailored bundles like these battleforces.