Jagged Red Lines

Actually, there's not a lot of bloat. There are 50 warscrolls - broadly in line with slaves to darkness (52 I believe) and gloomspite (51). Also, it's nothing compared to stormcast (78 warscrolls) which has almost as many leader warscrolls (38) as the entirety of the cities army. And honestly, I find it a bit rich for someone to say 'I don't like to look at your army' as justification for vast amounts of it to be binned. GW has done plenty of 'soft squatting' recently, with stormcast as already mentioned, but also in ogors and slaves to darkness. There's no reason they shouldn't keep the warscrolls valid and allow people to continue to play with their miniatures.

I mean, I'm not saying that they shouldn't add to the cities range. But actively stopping people from playing with the toys they bought and spent hours painting doesn't improve the game at all. Imagine if they just decided to squat the original stormcast line in favour of the new thunderstrike. The only people who would be fine with that are those that don't own the miniatures already.

I found that model quite fragile, but yes it is beautiful. And relatively recent. I don't like that GW squatted anything, and I have my fingers crossed that nothing else goes to legends. I mean look at the general on griffin, demigryph knights, wild riders and wildwood rangers. A lot of the stuff that rumours suggest is going to legends are better sculpts than newer ranges like bonereapers and fyreslayers imo. I don't agree with the random invalidation of anyone's armies, which is why I've been opposed to the concept of dawnbringers since it was first announced. Cities are perfect as they are.

I guess it's karma for dunking on fyreslayers, but to me they're the best looking. I mean, a well-painted flamespyre is a work of art. To me narratively, they play into how diverse the realms are. They're a religious cult that worship a godbeast.

If they're looking to retain the most popular cities units, they'll look at sales. Phoenix guard have been the standout battleline choice of the current cities book in terms of rules. Most people who played cities have bought or converted phoenix guard, as well as frostheart phoenixes

They have a fantastic narrative backstory, and also it would potentially alienate a lot of people - most people who have cities have phoenix guard.

In the Warhammer+ hammer and bolter episode 'Monsters', which has darkoath vs dawnbringers, flaggelants are there. I guess it's possible they redesign them/rename them.

Not to be a naysayer (as I have a substantial phoenix temple army) but AFAIK there's never been a phoenix start collecting box. The old cities ones were anvilguard - with scourge privateers and kharybdis; and greywater fastness - with dispossed. There was also a hammerhall firestorm box with freeguild. Also, it'd surprise me deeply if they squatted wanderers because they've just released a novel with a wanderers prince. Unless of course Arenai are old wood elves reimagined.

Agreed, trousers should be at the top of the list if GW is ever considering a redesign. Also, I'd like them to have actual hair, rather than hair sprouting from their helmets. They could even create a narrative reason with them remodelling themselves in Gotrek's image. Edit: but yeah, they could totally go in the opposite direction and move away from the old world slayer design, and I'd be fine with that too. But I don't think anyone is over the moon with how they currently look

I think if dwarf soup does happen it'll likely be through the next Broken Realms-type series. Maybe with Grombrindal as the star

They need a stormcast-type redesign. There's never been a bigger mismatch between the narrative and the models imo. You buy into them because of the axes and beards, and then you realise you've been sold badly-proportioned middle aged men in nappies. I painted about 30 of them and then had some sort of existential crisis. They're just too weird. I'd love for them to get a full rework.

This is a pet peeve. GW is so basic. We want to show these guys are strong - let them roll up without a shirt on so everyone can see their muscles. Because of this, you get things like chaos marauders, who are supposedly from the frozen wastes, who don't wear shirts. Those bearskins draped over your shoulders, won't save your nipples son. RIP. It also works the other way too. We want to show these guys are fat - again, no shirt. Let their bellies hang out. Give them some dignity, for pity's sake. For instance, look at this Cursed City ogor. Absolute perfection. Notice he's wearing armour. Just make miniatures that are interesting, rather than try and make design statements like HE'S FAT as obviously as possible.

This is the way - more mixed units. Highland Miniatures are doing an amazing old world dwarf line called 'sons of ymir'. Their latest models are slayers, and male and female dwarves fighting side by side looks so much better, and has me hopeful for a fyreslayers refresh.

The GHB should perhaps be a more substantial rules patch, rather than just a points tweak (which doesn't often do much to fix underlying issues). Then we could see two or three battletomes a year, each with a substantial miniatures refresh for the armies that need it.

Now do Seraphon!

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I always find it somewhat tragic and frustrating when they update ancient models through underworlds/warcry. Still frustrated by the lack of new frostsabres, nearly three years on from the release of Hrothgorn's Mantrappers. It would be the ultimate troll move (and just like GW) to make one or two new centigor and lock them behind an underworlds warband.

Weird if it's beastmen though. Considering they're just around the corner. Rumour engines tend to be a way off. Unless it's a range revamp planned for the next Broken Realms series.

Hopefully the next wave of broken realms books will come with significant army updates. Although last time around it was just a character/centrepiece. Agreed. I think they'll probably end up previewing them in May for WarhammerFest.

So if Cities is the last summer book, and after that we'll be fully updated with battletomes, I guess we'll be starting a new Broken Realms- type series leading up to fourth edition in 2024. If so, then that tallies with what @Whitefang said about Dawnbringer being part of a narrative campaign.

FEC vs OBR would be in line with the 'unspeakable vs uneatable' theme of the last ogor vs OBR box. Also, do we know for sure Beasts are just getting one miniature? The WarCom article talks about 'releases' (plural).

Would love to see: Morghur Khorngors New shaggoth (finecast) New centigors (finecast) New bullgors

My hooves are crossed for a new shaggadelic.

I disagree with you about it being guesswork, but honestly I appreciate you for being willing to actually look at it and share your thoughts. There's something pretty frustrating about being dismissed out of hand. Apologies if I was uncivil at all.

If you'd read my post, you'd know I'm not saying I believe it wholesale. I just find it interesting that many (but not all) of the predictions came true. If you read the actual screenshot, you'd know that too.