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  1. I think I'm in a similar boat to most people.  I'd like to see downloadable warscrolls staying in some format that isn't within an app (the apps historically haven't got a good record for being kept up to date).  There's a whole level of convenience when having them easily available on the website, from allies to new armies, new players etc.  More than once I've been looking at the warscroll for a unit that a friend is wanting an opinion on.  I'm not advocating that entire battletomes should be free - GW employs a substantial team of game devs, artists, authors and photographers to produce very high production quality battletomes.

    What I will say is that every person on here needs to feed their views onto to the aosfaq@gwplc.com email address - don't be nasty or rude, remember that the person reading the email won't have been the person who made this decision.  Hopefully if enough people provide feedback with some decent reasons on why it's beneficial to stay, that feedback will make its way back to the people who do make the decisions.

    One last comment that probably requires a mod hat marker.  Please bear in mind that we have a zero tolerance policy on piracy on TGA.  This isn't open for discussion, because piracy at it's most basic is illegal.  Please double check your post to make sure you're not advocating piracy before you hit that "Submit Reply" button as the mods don't want to be knocking at your door 😉

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  2. 2 hours ago, Liquidsteel said:

    It would have been much better, I think, if they were either 6s to wound OR just 6s to hit are an auto wound, still allowing a save roll. They're also really pushing shooting, which combined with all these mortals has changed how the game is played massively. Getting big monsters to survive turn 1 and actually get in to combat is going to get even tougher I reckon.

    Or 6's to wound increase the rend of the attack by X.  No more book keeping than those attacks converting into MWs and still allows a save.

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  3. 3 minutes ago, Iksdee said:

    While we are on the topic of painting standards i have another question. What are your standards for a tabletop ready model or unit?
    I am trying to figure out where the sweetspot is for me. I am taking way to long painting my armies imo.

    Far too high - it's why I take forever to finish anything 🤣  In truth, I don't actually have a specific level I aim for, my Legion of Grief/Nighthaunt army I painted up using primarily using contrast and took me around 15 weeks, but is technically the least accomplished army I own with not much in the way of highlights.  My Khorne army was probably 8 months in total using the WHTV guides - everything has at least one highlight.  Imperial Knights were about 3 years on and off.

    Nowadays I tend to try and aim to complete a unit within a specific timeframe based on how busy I am with an overarching timescale for the whole army.  I'm looking at completing my Gravelords army by the end of the year all being well, so that'll be around about the 6 month mark, aiming for a minimum of 10 hours a week - ideally 20 if time permits.  One thing I do is to split my time into assembly, conversion & painting.  It gives me enough variety that I don't get bored but does mean that sometimes things appear to take longer than they actually do!

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  4. For me this subject is very much a "different strokes for different folks".  I've been in the hobby long enough that I remember when unpainted armies were much more common than they are now and seeing an army in white or yellow was as rare as hen's teeth.  I've certainly played with unpainted models in the past, but since I've started gaming with a more regular group of friends that's become less common.

    My own bug bear is when the reason for not painting is because the person couldn't be bothered.  I've much less of an issue when the reason is lack of time or not enjoying that part of the hobby.

    From an aesthetic perspective I think we all agree that a painted army looks better than an unpainted one.  What I'll throw into the conversation is that the colour you paint your models actually has an impact from a gaming perspective too - the champion in a unit is infinitely more identifiable, two identical units with different cloth colours are recognisable as two independent units, etc.  

    I'm now going to be controversial 😉  It has never been easier to put paint onto a miniature.  We have a range of coloured spray paints, washes, contrast and paints that cover in one coat, combined with a plethora of tutorials and videos.  That's not to belittle the amount of time or effort it takes, both things that people have in varying amounts.

    Where I do think people go wrong though is purchasing whole 2k armies in one hit and being defeated with the scale of the task before even picking up a brush.  Some of the best advice I've ever been given (and subsequently given out) wasn't on painting techniques or schemes, but instead was on how to plan painting an army, breaking it down into manageable chunks and putting unpainted models out of sight.  The other piece of advice is to remember that army painting is a completely different discipline to display/competition painting.  Most people only ever see armies from 3 feet away, so there's no need to paint eyeballs or tiny details that would be invisible at that distance - also don't forget that the people who paint the display miniatures we see on the boxes clock in at least 1800 hours of painting a year (often double that) and have been painting for 5+ years!

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  5. 2 hours ago, Kadeton said:

    GW could choose to align the Beastmen with Kragnos more or less immediately, if they decided it would suit their design and marketing goals better. All it would take is a lore rewrite - they wouldn't even have to change the (vast majority of the) model kits. I think it's right to expect that they won't do that, but the path is definitely open to them.

    I could see some changes but I think it'd be a real shame to see the true children of Chaos lose their chaos allegiance.

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  6. Just now, JackStreicher said:

    Yup. That‘s why I am all in for spiral binders (GHB 2021) style that let you update your Battletome easily.

    There are ofc other ways like clamps and the lines which could be added into the book.

    Filofax armies 😲  You buy a generals handbook folder that contains all the battleplans for that year and realm rules etc and then the warscroll cards for an army has the allegiance abilities and warscrolls with holes in!

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  7. I've said for some time that I'd love to see the basic "concept" of battletomes and codexes change.  Rather than a solid hardback book that contains everything, split it into two.  A lavish hardback coffee table style book that contains lore, background, artwork, painted miniatures, stories, painting guides etc and then a booklet that contains the allegiance abilities, unit rules etc - basically everything you require to play a game.  That booklet could then be made available in digital & warscroll formats to satisfy how different people like to consume that content.

    I personally dislike using apps in physical games - part of the appeal for me is that playing a game is tactile, I can pass over a warscroll card to my opponent to read, I'll make my own quick reference cards for spells etc.  That's entirely my own view - partly stemming from somebody who uses public transport to travel to events a lot (the last thing you need is your mobile phone running out of juice when you need to find out if the train is running on time 😉)

    5 minutes ago, Iksdee said:

    What it looks like now, and correct me if i'm wrong, is that we have to pay for warhammer+ to get the builder and also buy the battletome to unlock the digital version. I havent seen them myself but i've read that the digital battletomes are horrible at the moment. I all seems clunky.

    If it follows the same format as 40k has (and it's suggestive it is), each battletome will have a code in the back that will unlock the allegiance rules within the app (i.e. abilities and enhancements).  Having a subscription would only enable the army building part of the app (and warscroll builder is currently free and remains one of the better ways to create a list).  I'd agree that it is a little clunky, I think some of the reason they've gone this route is related to piracy where pretty much every full digital publication they've released has ended up being pilfered within hours of it being released.

    What we don't currently know about though is if warscrolls are going to remain available to download for all, or if they're going to be locked away behind a purchase of some kind.  I expect we'll know a bit more in a couple of weeks on that front though.

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  8. 13 hours ago, Overread said:

    Like your painting on that skeleton! The dabs of colour on the cape (almost looks like you used contrast paint?) give it that mottled soiled/worn look of an old bit of cloth never cared for since its owner passed over to death. 

    Cheers 😁  Cloak current is super simple and just Daemonette Hide with Magos Purple contrast over the top so far!  Couple of edge highlights helps to make it pop a bit more.  The contrast is a lot more pronounced in the picture than it is in the flesh - potato cam strikes again!  I've also matt varnished it to remove some of the sheen that contrast always leaves behind.  Look forward to seeing some pics of your models soon!

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  9. Time for an update!  Progress isn't quite as fast as I'd have liked as real life has been fairly busy.  All ten skeletons now have their base coats on and I've started the process of highlighting

    Apologies on the quality of this photo*, but the "cheeky bonus Watch Captain" has had his metallics and bone highlighted.  Two highlights are sadly needed on the metallics which will slow progress down a bit.  I have also worked out how I'm highlighting the purple, though I've taken the decision to replace one of the pots of paint as it's an old one and the consistency isn't great (GW reformulated all their paints in the latter part of 2018 and this one is prior to that).

    * I've no idea why, but my phone has really struggled to take a decent photo of the skeletons so far.  Will try again over the weekend as this picture isn't doing the model justice at all!

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    I'm still waiting for the bitz I ordered the other week for the Zombie Dragon, apparently there was a problem and the mail bag didn't get picked up 🤷‍♂️  The terrorgheist has now been based and undercoated though!  This means that once I get the skeletons finished I'm ready to crack into that model (a few airbrush sessions are on the cards) - I probably need to work out I'm painting it at some point as I don't even know the colours I'm going to use 🤔

    I'm going to give @Overread a gentle nudge now!

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  10. 5 hours ago, Kadeton said:

    I think that's almost as strange a requirement, to be honest.

    "This makes me so mad!"

    "Oh yeah? Please give me a complete list of the reasons why you're mad, so that I can critique it for you."

    My experience is that "This makes me so mad!" tends to be followed by some arbitrary angry dig about GW being unable to write writes or only doing something for money, or how somebody else's opinion isn't right.

    If that person steps back and calms down a bit, they'll generally be able to form a significantly more reasonable point without that barbed dig at the end.

    It's not about justifying why you're angry (which is normally subjective e.g. I don't enjoy that) but explaining what caused that anger (e.g. I don't understand why this has changed).

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  11. 21 hours ago, Kadeton said:

    I don't think it's particularly necessary to build an "argument" when all you want to do is express that you're angry about something. That's an odd requirement:

    "This makes me so mad!"

    "Oh yeah? Justify that emotion in detail, please."

    I'm not saying you do - but I've yet to meet anyone who can acurately convey what they're angry about whilst they're still angry.

    21 hours ago, Kadeton said:

    I totally agree that this should be the preferred method. The fact that people come to complain on TGA and other sites instead indicates that the proper channels aren't working effectively - people who use them don't feel heard (lack of acknowledgement or lack of commitment) and they lose trust in the process. That's when they seek out others who feel the same way to amplify the message and make themselves heard.

    I think a lot of people don't realise there is a complaints mechanism and many people would rather rant on social media for that endorphin kick when somebody clicks "like".  Sorry to be mean about it, I think social media is a really powerful tool at times, but people turn to it far too quickly (I'll now get off my soap box 😉)

    7 hours ago, Gaz Taylor said:

    Just to call this out as this is a misconception. To my knowledge non of the mods are friends with GW employees (I’m assuming you mean studio staff by the way) apart from Ben (who owns this forum).

    Also I’ve played games in events against studio staff as well as had a drink with them but I don’t think this means I’m on their list of people who would help them move house. 😉

    Just to reinforce this, within the AoS studio, I know two of the team well enough to have a conversation with, having gamed with them and chatted at open days.  Would more than happily have a drink with them any day of the week, but I've not got their mobile number on my phone or have them as a friend on Facebook because I don't know them well enough.

    Holding my hands up, I'm fortunate in that I've played a game on GW's Twitch channel and was given some models to paint up for WD (this was for winning a prize in a painting competition and was offered to all winners).  This hasn't given me a direct line into GW (nor should it), but did highlight that the GW staff I encountered are as passionate about the hobby as the rest of us.

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  12. On 8/27/2021 at 7:33 PM, Clan's Cynic said:

    Not shouting insults and replying in a constructive, long-form essay is obviously nicer, but ultimately volume matters more than anything. If a thousand people spam GW's social media with offence and frustration using vulgar language, it's probably going to be taken more seriously than ten people writing out extensive pages of well-researched and formatted arguments and ending with "but I still love your products and will continue to buy from you because I care!"

    Look at the whole debacle about pre-orders. Would they have made the same promise if there weren't so many people shouting and complaining angrily on every Twitch stream and Facebook post? Probably not.

    Granted, complaining on TGA - whether angrily or constructively -  won't do much either beyond perhaps giving people a chance to voice those frustrations (which is also healthy imo), but the idea that not doggy piling a company on their public-facing social media won't do anything is, I think, a bit naïve. Voicing those frustrations, whether well articulated or quite the opposite, does make an impact... so long as you're not alone in voicing them and are posting them directly to the company.

    Just my thoughts.

    On 8/28/2021 at 7:38 AM, Kadeton said:

    Agreed. Polite and constructive discourse is only effective after the problem is acknowledged and a genuine commitment is made to address it. Getting to that point, especially when the other party is doing everything they can to deny that a problem exists, is extremely difficult to do quietly.

    One of the things I find on social media is that people seem to have lost the ability to communicate their dissatisfaction in a non-offensive manner.  As @Overread quite rightly says, if somebody comes up to you shouting and ranting you're a lot less likely to listen to their opinion.  It's really hard to form an argument if you're angry too, because you're letting the reactionary part of the brain do the talking and not the rational part.  That's fine if somebody if you've narrowly missed being run over, less great when it's about a hobby you supposedly enjoy.

    It's also important to remember that the many of the people dealing with those really offensive and angry social media messages are regular folk like you and I - no special training.  I'd also argue that if you really want to get your point across, use the GW complaints mechanism rather than social media.  That's far more likely to be measured than angry social media posts - most companies don't quantify social media posts beyond a "feeling" and there's also a view that all publicity is good publicity (I'm not including class suits like Blizzard are facing)

    One of the reasons we're able to have some of these fairly deep conversations on TGA is because we have a no excessive negativity policy and don't tolerate members being rude and offensive - that includes to each other and to non-members.  By taking this like (and on odd occasions stepping in) we're able to have some really good and healthy discussions - I can't see this thread having been as civil on Twitter or Facebook.

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  13. 56 minutes ago, PrimeElectrid said:

    Looks like they may also have missed/cancelled Loremasters? Was supposed to be on ploos from the 1st but hasn’t been announced.

    45 minutes ago, Gaz Taylor said:

    Depends how many they have filmed and if it’s only Wade presenting them. If it’s only Wade and they’ve only filmed a few shows, it’s going to be delayed as he’s had health issues.

    Think the first episode is still scheduled for this coming Wednesday (it's Abaddon) though we're unlikely to get one a week due to Wade being off work.  I don't think any of the new bits will be shown on the Sunday reveal though as that pretty much sticks with physical releases.

  14. 25 minutes ago, Charleston said:

    I'm afraid I messed this up a bit by posting the faq link here which is basically like asking for a discussion, instead of linking the thread. Old Rumour-thread Habits die hard.

    Not in the slightest!  Know many people hop into the rumours thread as their first port of call so would have linked the faq's if they'd not spotted anything 😊

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  15. Would agree with the general consensus, if you're intending to use a unit at an organised event of some kind, you'll likely need to get dispensation/permission from the TO.  For friendlies most people won't have too many issues with going up a base size (within reason - nurgling on 160mm might raise an eyebrow).

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  16. 31 minutes ago, Scurvydog said:

    Just for AoS though, 40K seems to ship just fine. I don't buy it. "The global situation" has just become a catch all excuse for any company these days whenever they mismanage something or have delays. It has become the "my dog ate my homework" of corporations these days. 

    The "global situation" is not worse than it was a year ago, at this point delays should be planned for and managed.

    Although I'm of the opinion that a lot of people are using various issues as excuses at the moment, I can 100% confirm that the shipping and logistics problem does exist.  It is different from this time last year because a priority was being put on things like PPE and last September a huge amount of the UK was shut down.  It is also impossible to plan because companies have absolutely no control over the process between the point it leaves a manufacturer and when it gets delivered.

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  17. 1 hour ago, SunStorm said:

    The truth is we don't know for sure, although GW have said that it is down to supply issues. Which doesn't sound that unreasonable seeing as plenty of major UK companies are having issues with stock and transport. McDonalds, Nandos, Supermarkets, building suppliers, etc. all reporting stock shortages and some even closing branches. Toy stores already reporting that they expect shortages in the run up to Christmas as they cannot get the stock they need from China. 

    Overhearing the purchase team where I work, the UK have got logistics issues all over the shop.  Containers from other countries aren't anywhere near back to normal and there's a lack of drivers within the UK for transporting them when they do eventually arrive.  At times it's like the team here are doing the hokey cokey with incoming deliveries 🤣  Wouldn't be surprised if this weren't the culprit of the various delays/shuffling - would still be useful to have an update from GW on WarCom though.

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  18. 5 hours ago, PJetski said:

    Fact: They are never updating the old AOS app

    Fact: They are locking all warscrolls moving forward behind the new app

    Fact: The old app was free, the new one is not

    Fact: Reboxed units do not have warscrolls, only the weapon profiles and a stat block (just like in 40k)

    Fact: None of the warscrolls from Dominion are posted on the GW webstore. This is the first AOS product ever released that does not have a warscroll download available. This is consistent across all products with these models, such as the starter sets and paint bundle kits.

    Fact: There has been no official statement confirming they will carry on their previous business practices.

    Fact: There is zero evidence suggesting they will ever release free warscrolls or matched play rules again. All evidence points to the contrary.

     

    4 hours ago, JustAsPlanned said:

    It hasn’t been officially said, but given that they seem to be putting the vast majority of other previously free things behind the WH+ paywall, it’s reasonable to assume that they’re gonna do the same for the free warscrolls. Plus there were no Warscrolls for any of the new units on Dominion or the other starter sets, which is indicative in my mind.

    That sounded very dismissive on your part, Sarouan. I try to be respectful and receptive to other people’s thoughts on this topic and it’d be nice for the sentiment to be reciprocated. As I said above, whilst there’s no official announcement (it’d be PR suicide to actively go “hey, we’re getting rid of this free content we’ve provided for the entire games lifespan”), it does look likely.

    Sorry to point this out, but a some of this isn't fact - it's assumptions.  Let's wait until GW actually makes this move before condemning them shall we?  I'll also point out that the AoS 3 rules are still available to download - without warscrolls you can't actually use them.

    Not having the warscroll in the instruction booklet also makes a lot of sense.  Firstly I've yet to meet anybody who actually uses them and secondly we're seeing the life expectancy of warscrolls measured in around 3 years - this makes boxes of miniatures out of date pretty quickly.  If you take the warscroll out, the boxes are valid for a much longer period of time.

     

    5 hours ago, JackStreicher said:

    I disagree. We should compare it to a subscription like Netflix, since, to be honest, everything apart from the Animations should be free anyways. They basically make us pay for their advertisements 🥲

    Going to disagree with you in return here 😉  I don't think it's reasonable to expect any content to be provided for free.  Neither do the dozens of people who run patreons, put adverts into their YouTube videos or have Kofi accounts open for donations. 

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