Clan's Cynic
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Iron Golems win by default just because they have a Chaos Dwarf.
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21 minutes ago, Blightzkrieg said:
But it's been many years since 40k had a Tyranid release, with multiple space marine releases per year. I think that's the situation people would like to avoid with AoS, though arguably we're already at that point.
I don't think AoS is QUITE as bad as 40k. It's apparent who Daddy's Favourite is, but they've done a far better job of projecting different, non-Stormcast armies across the range of AoS' releases. We've had multiple non-SCE releases in a row, compared to 40k wherein it's not much of an exaggeration for other release to be a loyalist Space Marine release.
The question is whether GW do this because they're conscious of too many SCE releases, or a necessity to just grow AoS' various, younger ranges to the point they can produce full length Battletome: Darc Angelus and Battletome: Spaze Wulfs in the same vain as 40k. I hope it's the former, that's for sure.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I genuinely get excited to discover what new things are coming out for AoS, because unlike 40k, there's a good chance it won't be a release meant for Stormcast players to buy into as an overpowered allied detachment (see: Imperial).
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I'm not against it, but I also don't know if it will happen.
Even among Order, they've made a good effort to have lore that justifies various Order factions fighting; Idoneth need souls, Khaineites are... well, Khainiteites, Fyreslayers will sell their grandmother if offered enough ur-gold, etc. They do seem to be wary of a 40k situation where the the majority of games are Imperium vs Imperium despite that making very little sense in the lore (although Stormcast vs Stormcast still has no explanation, mind).
Thematically, the elves are still largely about Order(tm). They don't want to see the world fall to Chaos, they largely seem content to let other civilisations stand so long as they don't threaten them, unlike Death who's gotta catch 'em all. There's nothing that really sets them far apart from Order unless the lore eventually goes in a direction where they're united under a goal that Sigmar would very much not want them to achieve.
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2 minutes ago, azdimy said:
Look at the post just above mine, they announded the last price increase in a community article earlier this year. Like this one, it is not a general price increase.For some reason I belwive they ve always announce price increase in the past or maybe I just knew it was around june every year so I would vuy what I needed prior to the new price coming up. I personnally didn t really care they announced a few penny increase on paint but failing to mention this one is infuriating
Read my post again. Like I said, Paints and Start Collecting(!) announcements were the exception, not the rule, which is what the above post is about.
Whilst not everything got a hike, a massive amount of stuff did, and FW also got a 5% kick up the rear. That's what I'd consider a 'general' rise.
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Only on TGA could you find people defending GW for price rises.
3 hours ago, azdimy said:What bothers me the most is that, these hikes are usually announced by GW and they did not this time. We saw some leaks from distributors who got notified but no open communication from GW to their customers about it
General price rises across the line haven't been announced for years. The last one I remember being called out prior was about twelve years ago in White Dwarf. The paints and SC(!) are the exception to the rule.
Anyway, they've managed to price me out of Fyreslayers. The cost of Hearthguard was already silly (£100 for twenty), but now this coupled with the already expensive characters, that you can no longer get at discounters like Element Games, has done it for me. I doubt it's a coincidence that they were hiked just as they proved one of the most powerful options. I genuinely and naively thought with the way some of the Idoneth were priced versus Fyreslayers (Vulkites versus Namarati etc)) they'd realised how they'd managed to pretty much sink a faction based on cost.
Luckily, I have pretty much everything I need for 40k. My Fantasy 'Dispossessed' will see me through fine, as will Underworlds, unless there's a pretty major and "Must have" reveal at the Open Day. I did really want to do more on those Fyreslayers, but alas.
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Another Rumour Engine.
Given the design of the crowns, this is clearly an AoS one. I'm thinking Slaves to Darkness/Everchosen due to the specific theme of noble heads being taken, as well as the hook aesthetic fitting Chaos more than say... Soulblight. Ogres are a possibility, but I don't think they'd be picky on who they take and 'save' heads from, noble or peasant.
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27 minutes ago, EMMachine said:
Hm, I have the feeling the Hellcannon would make more sense in a Infernal Duardin army (still it could be a possible Ally).
As much as I would love a 'mainline' Chaos Dwarf army (you just can't rely on FW-only for long-term support), the Hellcannon was just such an iconic part of the Warriors of Chaos line that denying their AoS equivalent would feel... wrong. Hell, there's a Chaos Duradin in the one Warcry group based off those who create a lot of the Everchosen's equipment, so it would be tying in with the lore still.
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2 hours ago, GeneralZero said:
Guys, did you hear anything about the availability of out of stock contrast paints? I am still wayting for main colors: for ex. Gulli, skyish, black, grey, ....
GW stores seem to be getting a regular resupply, but the website - funnily enough - seems to be getting them last out of everybody.
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They're fantastic for cloth, they're good for skin, they're horrible for anything flat. The main offender I've found is Creed Camo which for a paint presumably designed for Cadian armour - the hint is in the name - it would go on better than most, but it's closer to a darker Hexwraith Flame than anything else.
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More details on the Skyrigger.
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2 hours ago, overtninja said:
Fantasy had the additional problem that many people had been in the hobby for years and had huge armies already, and weren't buying new models. It also required so many boxes for each unit that it's price was astronomical just based on quantity needed. At least AoS doesn't require huge model counts like fantasy did.
That said, it does suck to make the buy-in to start playing higher, and it's going to dissuade people from jumping in. It's really great that there are Meeting Engagements now, they're great for people who are just starting.
The "people already had huge armies" argument doesn't really hold up when you consider that was/is the case for 40k as well, it's just they had a much more aggressive release schedule for 40k versus Fantasy which meant more excuses for people to buy new stuff. AoS is getting more than WHFB did, but it's still behind and there's a lot more smaller armies that're getting left behind - even newer AoS-only ones.
The problem is that we're seeing more units that're 5 models for £25 (which are now going up further). For armies that are already very pricey like the Fyreslayers, this is only going to lead to a Fantasy-like situation where the barrier for entry on anything short of horde armies - which, long-term, tend to be even more expensive - is too much for most people. There's not much difference between needing to buy four Core at £20 than having to buy four boxes-of-five for £30 to see where this could go.
When they put out 10 Namarti for £30 rather than the ludicrous £35 for 10 Heathguard I figured they'd realised their error for 'out pricing', but it seems they want to cash in on the white knights chirping about "the new Games Workshop!" and see what they can get away with.
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Doubtful. Fyreslayers are already just a Mortal Realms re-imagining of Dwarf Slayers.
I think, at best, it may be a sign that Dispossessed Unforged (see: holdover Dwarf Slayers) might see some kind of kit alongside of him, but I sincerely doubt that. Gotrek is just such an iconic part of WHFB, whilst also having been given an ending that made it more plausible than most that he may end up in the Mortal Realms. I really wouldn't read too much into it.
The new Fyreslayer Battletome does allude to the potential of
DwarfDuradin Soup mind you, as they've recently been making headway in strengthening ties that were broken during the Age of Chaos (for obvious reasons).-
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On 6/14/2019 at 8:41 PM, prochuvi said:
Vengeance for Cadia! I mean, uhhhh, for Vosforge!
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I'm of the belief that that LoN was always meant as a temporary, albeit fleshed out 'soup' book whilst the various wings of Death eventually received their own full armies. Eventually we'd see a full Soulblight army with models and Tome (there goes Blood), a Deathrattle update, etc. In the time that would inevitably take, we could probably see another LoN update but I reckon whichever facet of Death is updated next will be taken out as a Legion.
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6 hours ago, Travis Baumann said:
I thought all the old-time TK fans were clamoring for their return so they could use their existing armies (basically as-is).
If they come back in some other form, will any of the vocal TK'ers actually be happy or will we just hear another huge round of whining and wringing of hands at how GW has done them wrong yet again? Are the TK legacy players actually so sad about their lore/story/characters being dead or about their army being not playable on a tournament/match play level? I am confused about what they actually want here.
It's almost as if Tomb King players are not a homogeneous hivemind and are that individuals have different wants and ideas.
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16 hours ago, AnUncommonCulture said:
So... I know he’s not a Fyreslayer per se, but is anyone else excited about Gotrek in Realmslayer, and the new model GW is releasing?? He’s getting a warscroll, but I don’t know anything else.
He makes me upset Fyreslayers weren't sculpted with trousers and boots.
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1 hour ago, Barkanaut said:
I totally agree wth this. AoS is losing lots of its uniqueness and becoming too much fantasy. If we see another old character return to lead the death army it’s basically over. At this point we’re getting more fantasy releases compared to AoS ones. No new characters, no truly new armies, and almost no new lore or books for the new characters or new armies. No book about the heroics of Brokk from the KO or High King Volturnos. These are huge major players and all they have is some small blurbs in their dexes. The way new armies get treated in AoS you would think we’re the bad ones for liking AoS for what it was and supporting it when no one else liked it. Where the hell were all the fantasy fans back in the day if they cared so much about it?
Do you really think a small handful of named individuals being recycled is AoS becoming 'too much like fantasy'?
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My take away is that it's akin to Underworlds and Kill-Team, in that it's neither a Specialist Game nor a 'core game'.
Like those two we'll probably see it being pushed a lot more in Games Workshop stores, compared to Specialist Games that see a very short run in their stores, then go back to the warehouse after a few weeks.
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Honestly. just try having a word with him and see if he'll play a less tournament-build list. From what you've wrote, it doesn't seem like he's doing anything 'wrong' save running powerful lists. He may genuinely not know that you're being discouraged from playing with him/not enjoying yourself.
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I feel like Warcry's problem is that it doesn't sell itself as Not!Kill-Team visually, if that is their intention.
Kill-Team is very easy to visualise what it actually is; squad-based, small, short games using existing 40k miniatures. People easily associate it's meant to be for small '40k' games because it literally uses the same models.
Warcry meanwhile looks more like Necromunda: Mortal Realms Edition, owing to it being advertised with a suite of Chaos-only models, specific to that game. GW can go "b-but we're allowing AoS models too!" but most people aren't going to read that deep into it. You can use Chaos Cultist and Genestealer Cult models in Necromunda too, but all people think of is the game-specific Gangs.
This is presumably why Underworld's new beginner-friendly box actually uses existing AoS models instead of new, uniquely Underworlds ones.
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On 5/17/2019 at 3:14 PM, JPjr said:
Regarding Bretonnia, can I check something... was the last time they were updated and had a new army book really 2004. I mean, not to diminish the pain and suffering that these people are obviously struggling to cope with but come on, take a hint guys. Maybe throw your energy into something more constructive and healthy...
It makes the, what... 8 year Tomb King vigil seem positively sensible.
The theme of heavily armoured, mounted knights wielding lances is a timeless and iconic fantasy image. Bretonnia ever existing in WHFB or not, I'm sure we'd still see very similar requests. Hell, looking at that one artwork of what appear to be Free Guilds we may just end up with something between them and the old Empire.
Like others have said, it's less Bretonnia specifically and more the theme of knights. I think everybody here accepts Bretonnia with a capital B is never coming back. Hell, the Sisters of Battle were last properly updated in 2003. Low and behold at what's now coming to 40k.
I'm sure the usual suspects would instantly change their tune if Daddy GW said "they're cool again guys!" and without a shred of irony talk about how they always thought they were an awesome idea to bring into the Mortal Realms.
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35 minutes ago, Blightzkrieg said:
So if I'm understanding correctly, the only step this new paint skips is washing right? Because that's not really why my painting is super super super slow. Or is basecoating with contrast paints significantly faster as well? That would really help.
Highlights as well, since it leaves sharper edges lighter. It's going to be a huge boon to horde armies where you don't necessarily want to fiddle with every bit of detail, but still want the basic job done.
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Just now, Barkanaut said:
Well another 1.5 years of suckage if there are 4 tones left for the year my brothers. It’s like GW loves us to suffer incredibly.
*Laughs in 40k Xenos player*
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Are they doing an AoS Open Day this year? Could be why things have been held back.
Remember they don't like announcing things for mainline games (40k/AoS) that are over (roughly) a month away from being released, which isn't a great span of time.
The Rumour Thread
in Age of Sigmar Discussions
Posted · Edited by Clan's Cynic
The Open Day is in a week, so presumably we'll have the covers pulled off on a fair bit of stuff. My guess is a 'new' faction range (like Kharadrons and Idoneth were) and at least one updated/merged Battletome (Everchosen + StD, Skaven, etc).