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  1. Hi Guys,

    I actually had this project for quite some time here in the TGA-Community (august 2017) as a blog (with 1041 Views at the moment) Actually don't know, if blogs don't get much attention.

    So, perhaps I should do a thread here to.

    The most recent list of models will still be in the description of my Blog

    What happened until now.

    (in 2 parts 2017 and 2018)

    The Project actually started as a Ghyran Freeguild Projekt (before Generals Handbook 2017 arrived)

    The list was actually planned like this:

    Heroes
    Battlemage (100)
    Battlemage (100)
    Excelsior Warpriest (80)
    War Altar Of Sigmar (250)
    Warrior Priest (80)
    - Sigmarite Warhammers
    Warrior Priest (80)
    - Sigmarite Greathammer
    Warrior Priest (80)
    - Sigmarite Warhammer & Shield
    Witch Hunter (60)
    - Pistol & Silver Greatsword
    Sigismund (100)
    Freeguild General
    - Great Weapon
    Schwester Christina (100)
    Freeguild General
    - Great Weapon
    Freeguild General (100)
    - Stately War Banner


    Battleline
    20 x Flagellants (160)
    - Devoted of Sigmar Battleline
    20 x Flagellants (160)
    - Devoted of Sigmar Battleline
    10 x Freeguild Archers (100)
    10 x Freeguild Archers (100)
    10 x Freeguild Archers (100)
    20 x Freeguild Guard(160)
    - Speer, Schild
    20 x Freeguild Guard (160)
    - Speer, Schild
    20 x Freeguild Guard (160)
    - Schwert, Schild
    10 x Freeguild Guard (80)
    - Hellebarde
    10 x Sisters of the Watch (220)
    - Wanderers Battleline (Waywatcher General)
    10 x Sisters of the Watch (220)
    - Wanderers Battleline (Waywatcher General)
    6 x Demigryph Knights (320)
    - Lance and Sword
    - Free Peoples Battleline

    Units
    20x Freeguild Greatswords (300)

    Most parts should be an Ghyran Order, called "order of the yellow rose" at this state, an monastery with Ranger optics.

    In the starting time. I created those Miniatures:

    Free Guild General (later Loremaster)

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    Freeguild Archers (later Gladeguard)

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    Freeguild Guard

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    Battlemage

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    With some other WIPs in this year:

    Greatswords

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    Freeguild Guard

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    Do to some switching between projects. The project was than interrupted until May 2018.

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  2. 6 minutes ago, Mortaal said:

    With the look out sir installed I thought maybe allying in two flame cannons may be perfect instead of two ballistae? (also more fluffy, having a wall of flame go up!)

    Allegiance: Dispossessed
    Mortal Realm: Chamon

    Leaders
    Warden King (120)
    - General
    - Trait: Strategic Genius
    Runelord (100)
    - Artefact: Ancestral Pickaxe 
    Runelord (100)
    Runelord (100)

    Battleline
    30 x Ironbreakers (360)
    10 x Ironbreakers (140)
    10 x Ironbreakers (140)

    Units
    30 x Irondrakes (540)

    War Machines
    Flame Cannon (200)
    - Allies
    Flame Cannon (200)
    - Allies

    Total: 2000 / 2000
    Extra Command Points: 0
    Allies: 400 / 400
    Wounds: 114
     

    Hm, the Flame Cannon is a "Dwarfs" unit, isn't it. So it isn't a legal "ally" for Dispossessed in case of the Allied Factions of the Pitched Battle Profiles.

  3. 16 hours ago, Skabnoze said:

    I think Darkoath may end up being a rebrand for Slaves of Darkness.  Slaves of Darkness seems like a faction where if they put out a full Battletome they may be likely to replace half the kits in the faction with newer ones.  Maybe it ends up just being a name applied to a few heroes, maybe it becomes  a keyword, or it might simply become the name of the allegiance and they drop Slaves of Darkness.

    To say something about the Darkoath Theme. After Chieftain and Warqueen can't have a God Keyword, it's also possible that "Darkoath" could become a undefined Mark of Chaos.

    This would make more sense than dropping Slaves to Darkness. When was the last time an Allegiance was dropped (when the Grand Alliance Books came out in 2016).

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  4. On 6/8/2018 at 10:35 PM, Thomas Lyons said:

    The six Matched Play scenarios in the core rulebook are those from the GHB2016.  This leads me to speculate that of the 12 in GHB2018, 6 will be those from GHB2017 and 6 will be new.

    I can confirm that there are 12 Battleplans in the GHB2018 and a table rolling a D3 and a D6 to roll for the Battleplan. I only wondered where the first 6 Battleplans where.

  5. Hey, using the plague claw and combining the skaven with Bloodbowl heads is a very interesting idea. Also a great idea with the magma.

    And those reavers are amazing:

    After one of my subfactions is a Maidensarmy (didn't paint anything for that subfaction):

    I played with the idea, making reavers, but ended up with making a Wildrider Conversion. But I think I will keep it in mind.

    Will your Wanderers also be firebased? Would like to see the models in color.

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  6. On 5/14/2018 at 1:44 AM, jamierk said:

    Perhaps a reborn Caradryan could have formed an allegiance with Araloth (didn't he get spirited away in the end times?) and set up a new Temple somewhere?

    I would actually more like it Caradryan would be a Phoenix Godbeast all Phoenix Temple bound with (like I made Korhil a Lion Godbeast in a Background Description).

    On 5/14/2018 at 1:57 AM, jamierk said:

    Just to add to the potential to consider for a PT battletome, how about a different points cost for an unridden Phoenix?

    This has to be the solution at some point, but I don't know if the unmounted Phoenix has to be cheaper or the mounted one more expensive.

  7. So, I made a version 1.2 (still without background because the one part I posted isn't really enough for it).

    For once, I made some Shadow Warrior like unit again. They are Lion Hunters, too. They have the defensive abilities of the Lion Rangers and the deployment rule of the Shadow Warriors but not the re-roll. The Champion makes a additional Attack like the Shadow Warriors.

    The other Lion Hunters unit got the Change change with the champion and the deployment Rule, too.

    In Addition a made minor point changed to the Units that contain a Emperor Lion.

    I made Lion Noble and Lion Lord on Emperor Lion 20 Points cheaper (after a Chaos Lord only costs 250 Points), and the Emperor Lion doesn't have a flying rule.

    And the Emperor Lion itself got 50 Points cheaper. 150 Points for him should be enough. 200 Points could be a little to expensive for him, after he is a non Flying Manticore with slower Movement.

     

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  8. 21 minutes ago, GammaMage said:

    The story is a great start - remember, battletomes are about more than just the mechanics, they're about the army's look and history and lore too. To get people excited about an army it needs good hooks on multiple levels, because people play AoS for very different reasons to each other. But this Battletone is growing on me more and more as I'm thinking about it.

    I know, my own Lion Rangers Army is more a painting project. Don't even know, if this army will ever see a gameboard. I think nobody knows. I still have to look how I make the rest (at best in a generic form, or seeing from various different aelfen kinds).

    I made up those 5 lion kinds, so there is something like a rainbow-colored mane, but there could be many more.

    If GW gives them some sort of background, I can still have my Fyre-aelfs.

    One thing I realized. I was thinking about if I can just add the toppart and buttompart of the warscroll into my document, but the topline gets far to small in the page format, and if I rotate the page by 90° it will get too small for my Emperor Lion Units, so 2 pages would be needed. Putting the entire warscroll into a Google doc, will get quite small, too. So my "layout" will be the easiest way, even it's quite ugly.

  9. 28 minutes ago, Twitch of Izalith said:

    Slightly worried about my Legends order as Morathi dropped from the available models on Wednesday last week after only 4 days of availability. The Facebook team were replying to people "We can't make any more of that model" without any explanation. They must have had a shedload of orders! 

    Hopefully they will fulfil orders already placed before that.

    Sounds like there casting mold broke down or all models after a certain point were miscasts.

  10. So, some small updates. Actually I posted the updates into a blog here.

    I uploaded some WIP Pictures of War Lions and the Emperor Lion in the Blog Entry here:

    And translated the story about the Lion Rangers Godbeast. The Great Lion Korhil:

     

  11. 11 hours ago, Karol said:

    I am a very new player, but aren't 99,99% games matched played? So being good in narrative games or not having points cost, is as good as not existing at all. 

    It's a bit like saying that a card is still ok post nerf in MtG, because it rocks in Vintage, that no one sane plays.

     

    11 hours ago, Karol said:

    How do people actually play narrative, without points it would be just the guy with the biggest wallet dominates everyone else, even more then in matched played? Or better yet how do they start it, if someone starts narrative this means other people have to had already been playing it, this means they are late to the arms race and would be facing people who have 3-4 times the size of collections. They would have to be constanlly be buying more and more stuff to keep up with others, while in matched played they just have to have one good 2000pts army and be done with buying stuff.

    I think, the problem here is the mindset. Narrative play isn't about cracking your opponents skull with WAAC. It's more about crafting a story out of it. So if you get a enjoyable Story that you can show others the game exists. And for those games its better if the game has 4+ Turns instead of one Player winning after 2.

    Do you really need balance if you're playing a last stand Scenario where one player has to wipe out the other one, but the other one wins if after the last round still 1 model lives? Or losing most of the army but winning the game because you got your models into the right place. But for such games, you need players that don't have the WAAC Mindset.

    3 hours ago, Kyriakin said:

    This all sounds very nice, but Is there any precedent for much of this?

    For example, some battalions lost their points in GHB17 (e.g. the Spire of Dawn one).

    Since then, have people been "just using the old points", or did those battallions typically just die on the vine?

    I have always gotten the impression that, once something loses its points, it tends to just cease to be within the mainstream of casual pickup games.

    In real matched play, those Battalions are lost, as well as those were the Name of a Warscroll was changed or those never having a pitched battle profile (like the Realmgate Wars Battalions).

    Thats the disadvantage of following 100% Matched Play.

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  12. 6 hours ago, kenshin620 said:

    Another idea is that since the Stormcast also have a lot of lion iconography, maybe there are lion rangers that work very closely with the SCE? And perhaps after a long partnership, some of these lion rangers are rewarded with equipment. Maybe even call them the warhammer equivalent of "Thunder Cats"!:P

    Actually never see Thunder Cats (I was about 2 when the series ended).

    Hm, you mean, getting some axes of the Vanguard Rangers?

     

    Actually I got my Lion Rangers Box today (because of tomorows holliday). so I could build my Lion Riders and my Lion Lord on Emperor Lion today. The Combination War Lion, Wildrider Legs and White Lion Bodies work really good here

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    Im not so good with greenstuff in case of the Emperor Lion, but I hope it will look less wierd when it has paint on it.

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  13. 43 minutes ago, Chris Tomlin said:

    @EMMachine - I like your attitude with regards to the Aelves within the Mortal Realms as opposed to harking on about The World The Was (as much as I absolutely loved the WFB Elven lore)

    It was a nicely done lore over all the years, just had the flaws that every Armybook was a nation and most spaces of the world was fleshed out, so it left very little room for creativity without causing problems with the official lore. Thats what I like about the AoS lore. I can enjoy the lore written by gw or other players and at the same time I can create my territories making my own faction without causing lore problems.

    43 minutes ago, Chris Tomlin said:

     I'll take a look at your Battletome another time and let you know what I think.

    Take your time. It's more an Alpha without pictures. Only Warscrolls and Tables for Skirmish, Path to Glory, and Pitched Battle. At the moment the Warscrolls don't even have the AoS Design.

    Feel free to write suggestions into the my other thread, but it don't has to be a high priority.

     

    Edit: to say something about the Phoenix Temple it self. I would really see potential for such a faction, too.

    • Smaller Birds (like Aetherwing) with the fire or ice theme.
    • Archers with flaming or icy Bows and Arrows (like Sisters of the Watch)
    • Wizards casting fire or ice magic.
    • there could be literally bird cavalry (like Demigryth or Vanguard-Palladors)
    • Or some entirely different form of Phoenix (after we have 2 variants)

    One thing thats not entirely fleshed out is the part that they have taken a vow of silence. It should be a little complicated if no one can give orders because no one speaks.

    In the end the Phoenix Temple is some form of religion (or cult, after everyone literally dies and is reborn with phoenix essence).

    The main problem is, that without a Battletome we are forced to use a the units that are connected to the faction by keyword and restricted by allies.

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  14. 5 minutes ago, Chris Tomlin said:

    Looks like you have a lot of Aelves on your hands. Will you wait to see how the Warhammer Legends stuff shakes out? Perhaps you could do a project based on one of those lists instead?

    Yeah, combined with my Frost Aelf project I have 8 of 10 Factions that were part of either Highborn or Darkkin/Exiled Aelfs. Actually I don't want to go back to the "old" army design. I like the idea that we have some sort of subcultures now that don't have to be fix High Elves or Dark Elves

    It's more a thing of creating thematic armies, building own cities. Simply having a little creative fun. So even if I would make a Frost Aelf Phoenix Temple they would be Frost Aelfs for me, not Highborn or Darkkin/Exiled. Using Legends would mean, writing stuff for the "world that was" instead for realms with nearly endless possibilities (and we have nearly the same problems with the Legends list like with the start of Age of Sigmar, having no points or fixpoint like Path to Glory, where we can say that unit "A" has equal value to unit "B").

    Because of that, I started making a fanmade Battletome for Lion Rangers, to give them a little more (even perhaps somewhere in the future GW does or battletome or not)

    If we get lucky, making such projects will help to get a real battletome with the choices we used in our projects, if not we have a Themed Army with style.

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  15. So, lets go into round 2 with the Battletome 1.1.

    Simply wrote some things together

    • We have a Lion Lord now that got a Battleaxe and a similar Effect like the Dragon Lord (basicly the Korhil Model or other models with a second Axe.
    • The Lion Noble has now a Throwing Axes got up 10 Points
    • Both Heros have a Variant with a Emperion Lion
    • Lion Trainer is now called Lion Tamer is now a Blood Stoker for War Lions
    • The Lion old Lion Hunters are now called Lion Archers, lost 1 Point Bravery, 4" Range of there Bows but got 20 Points cheaper
    • new Lion Hunters do have Throwing Axes and a Hunterblade (could be sword or Axe like) and priced like Vulkite Berzerkers
    • White Lions are called Lion Guard now
    • Lion Chariot got 1" slower
    • War Lions got 1" faster
    • new Unit Lion Riders
    • Emperor Lion added (mostly a Manticore without wings and a little slower.

    Don't know if I got the points right but it should be a little more variation her.

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  16. 4 hours ago, Thundercake said:

    I think backup warscrolls is a good idea. If you go with a short range throwing axe unit, they could count as freeguild bows/handgunners/etc., glade guard, or arkanuat company, just something that is ranged and universal order battleline. For the lion cavalry, i'd go with demgryphs, makes the most sense to me.

    If you are looking for axes, both fyreslayers and marauder horsemen have throwing axe weapon profiles and i believe model options for them as well.

    I actually think, I will make Warscrolls for both Variants (Bows and Throwing Axes) but not building such a unit yet.

    The funny thing with the demigryphs is, that those guys actually have 4 wounds. (A little much when we think that the Lion Chariot has 6 Wounds and my Lions do have 2 at the moment (because Frost Sabres have 2). Another point is. Should the Cavalry and the Lions be faster than the Chariot? I mean 2 Riders won't be very different from 1 Chariot if all stats are the same and the move of 9" of the chariot could be the weight of it. There should be a point taking the Lions or the Riders instead of the Chariot. Or the Chariot should be 1" slower?

     

    3 hours ago, kenshin620 said:

    There could also be an expansion to the different magic realms. Surely not all lion rangers hail from a place where magic doesn't affect them/affect the local lions. Kind of inspired by warcraft cards. Even if elemental lions aren't really a thing, perhaps there are lion rangers that are more connected to Ghur.

    Yeah, thats true. It don't have to be "White Lions". The burning one looks really cool, but I don't want to sit on one. At the end its like with Ponyta and Rapidash of Pokemon where you only get burned if they don't like you xD.

    Even Scars Colortheme (Lionking) could look cool.

    Actually I bought some stuff today:

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    Friday I should get another box with 10 White Lions. Hopefully the stuff I want to do works. I think I will try to build 3 Lion Riders (have to make 3 War Lions on Taller Bases in this case, perhaps a Tamer and something I would call a Lion Lord/Lion Noble on Emperor Lion. Bases on the Manticor, perhaps without the wings and a change for its Tail (I'm not really good with green stuff but perhaps I can make a little Fur on its Tail (and close the holes where the wings would be. I still have some White Lions on Squarebase, so when I use some of them too, I can still get 10 more White Lions (perhaps they should be called Lion Guard or something). So be prepared :P

    3 hours ago, kenshin620 said:

    Another thing could be lions that lost their master so they charge forth with reckless abandon with little care to their self preservation, like slayers. 

    You mean some sort of rule for the War Lions?

  17. 1 hour ago, Kaleb Daark said:

    Tombkings - the general consensus up at the mothership seems to be that they will bring nothing back by bringing them back.  So as of now, they're very dead.  However never say never.  Personally I liked them-  I always liked how they were a skeleton army without wraiths and zombies etc.  The constructs were also very cool.

    In case of Tomb Kings. GW could give Deathrattle some Archers, Mounted Archers, Chariots and some sort of Priest and you would have a more complete army where you can use some of the models. Some of the units were reduntant between both armies. Don't know about the other units.

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  18. First thanks to all feedback until now.

    Before going through all of this first to remind. There should be a existing "backup" Warscroll to use, if not using this battletome. I'm not really playing right know but I can't force people to play against unofficial rules so in best case the army should be playable (as a mixed Order Army) even under Matched Play Conditions, (better without compendium warscrolls, because after seeing the Dark Aelfs Legacy List, those units won't be available they are reworked.

    14 hours ago, kenshin620 said:

    While cool, I think Lion Rangers are a little one dimensional atm. I can easily see them getting refolded back into a unified aelve faction.

    It's the problem of many subfactions, coming from WHFB, at the moment. The Lionrangers would really be really good Ghur Aelves with their wild look.

    14 hours ago, kenshin620 said:

    Maybe since White Lions are far more about brute strength, maybe their ranged unit should use throwing axes rather than bows? Perhaps white lioness riders that trade power for speed?

    8 hours ago, awcamawn said:

    Could be onto something here, I think. Short range, but with rend and 3+ or even 2+ to wound?

    As I quite like the idea of throwing axes. The point is, there are not many warscrolls using them (I could see what I have in my Duardin Bits from my WHFB Dwarf Army). Do you really think that an aelf can get this much force into a throwing axe, if even dwarfs only wound on 4+? Perhaps a boost when fighting monsters knowing where weakspots are. And what should be a backup warscroll? Black Arc Corsairs? Freeguild Guard?

    14 hours ago, kenshin620 said:

    As for warscrolls that look like official ones, theres this website.

    Thanks, this is good to know. Perhaps in a later state I can redo the warscrolls, but I think as long I don't have a fix status I should stay with the doc because its a little quicker to make the updates at the moment.

    9 hours ago, Melcavuk said:

    Allegiance abilities, what are they?
    Relics, prayers etc?

    Don't know, yet. But still can use Order Allegiance abilities so the priority isn't that high right now.

    9 hours ago, Melcavuk said:

    Missing key word HERO on both hero choices

    Yeah, shame on me for that one. Don't know if I should fix that as a quickchange without changing the version or as part of the new version.

    9 hours ago, Melcavuk said:

    Could do with 1 utility hero choice (either a banner, a priest, or something similar)

    A priest or a totem could be interesting. I mean, in the GA:Order they are descriped as some sort of Monastery Order (sounds a little like my Order of the Yellow Rose). But I don't actually know, what they should get as Abilities,yet.

    9 hours ago, Melcavuk said:

    The lion trainer has the ability for lion rangers to reroll saves, make sure it specifies Lion Trainer as whilst he is a lion ranger aswell it isnt written as a keyword dependant abiblity.
    The blanket increase charge range on the Tamer for units in range rather than a specific unit could make it somewhat overpowered by daisy chaining units, either make it a command ability or only for units wholley in range

    Hm, the White Lion Trainer was suppost to train the Warlions. Don't know how he should make Lion Rangers re-roll saves. Perhaps I should call him a Tamer instead.

    Like I said, its the rule that the Iceblow Hunter gives to the Frost Sabres (in that case on the frost Sabres Warscroll). And I already weakened the rule by 4" and make the bravery effect a wholly within effect.

    Still can make him more like the Blood Stoker, that he whips a unit of WAR LIONS giving them a effekt (if I take his Effect instead it would be 3" to Run / Charge Moves and re-roll wound Rolls of 1 for the Lion Attacks.

    Or how about the Beastmasters effect for Hydra/Kharibdyss. Rolling 3 dice discarding the lowest but causing a Mortal Wound on a triple. (but could be a little week for a HERO Choice)

    What would sound better?

    9 hours ago, Melcavuk said:

    In terms of naming I know you had little to work with in terms of what was already there but everything having the word lion in it might be a bit excessive, try and vary it up a touch as the unit names tend to all blur together when trying to remember which white lion is which.

    Hm, should be the least problem to change that after I shouldn't mix the Pitched Battle Profiles or something like that. Only took those names because of the existing Scrolls.

    9 hours ago, Melcavuk said:

    Could do with a support unit, be it a monster, artillery piece or long ranged unit potentially. Something with a bit of kik

    Hm, one unit I could think of in case of a Monster would be a Manticore (I know, it was a Dark Elves creature in the old world and actually only used by Slaves of Darkness), but its the closest thing to a Lion that we get.

    8 hours ago, awcamawn said:

    Very cool! I like this idea! Just wanted to chime in quickly and mention that if you can't get a Korhil model, the Eternal Guard/Wildwood Rangers kit comes with a one handed axe intended for the Wildwood Ranger champion. If you're looking for an aelven one-handed axe it's a good option imho: 

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    Strangely I missed out this one (or it was the different look). Actually I should have some of these because my Archers in the "Faithful of Eloni" Project used the Eternal Guard bodys.

     

    8 hours ago, awcamawn said:

    Now we're talking! Lion cavalry! I've seen some really cool conversions where people have put the Sisters of the Thorn onto wolves to great effect, and I think the same could done with lions.

    Hm, there was a point where I thought about something like that. The point is, the only GW Lions avalable are in the Chariot Box (with 2 of them), so you need to buy many chariots, building many swifthawk Agents Chariots to use the Lions.

    The question is, what sort of Cavalry it could be. Making them 5 Models like Dragon Blades or Drakespawn Knight would make them really expensive. Perhaps 2 or 3 Models similar to Demigryph Knights? Actually I would need to give my Lions some bigger bases if I want to use them as Cavalry.  (Actually I used 60x35 mm Bases for the 6 Lions I based, but I think in case of Cavalry I would need at least 75x42mm Bases). Hm, Sisters of Thorn legs do really have a similar design. First thought were legs of Dragon Blades, but these are quite different in design.

    Or making it a little strange (even I have seen this in a Total War Warhammer Youtube Video), Lion Rangers riding on Horses.

    8 hours ago, awcamawn said:

    Aaaaaand.... I'm off to shamelessly plug Wanderer models in some other thread! Excelsior! 

    No problem. My Alarielle praying humans use many Wanderers bits (see in the link above). I really should finish more of those models, too.

    And to be fair, Lion Rangers have more in common with the wanderers than the Sisters of the Watch/Sisters of Avalorn with there magical firebows (would actually see these girls as Eldritch Council or Phoenix Temple not really as Wanderers).

     

    But after all of this, 1 problem stays. What will I use as Battleline when I only use official Warscrolls? That was the point of taking the Archers in the first place?

    If I look through the existing Warscrolls we have the following Order Battlelines:

    Aelfs: Bleakswords, Darkshards, Dreadspears, Sisters of Slaughter, Whichaelfs, Reavers, (Dryads), Glade Guard, Namarti Thralls.

    Duardin: Warriors, Longbeards, Vulkite Berzerkers,

    Human: Freeguild Archers, Freeguild Crossbowmen, Freeguild Guard, Freeguild Handgunners, (Liberators)

    Seraphon: Skinks, Saurus Warriors

    Using the Skinks Warscroll would be a little wierd, Duardin doesn't really match. and the only Warscroll that could have some sort of Missile Weapon without beeing a bow would be Freeguild Guard with Militia Weapons (their range is a little high).

    And playing Lion Rangers as Namarti Thralls would be a quite bad solution .

    Any Suggestions?

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  19. So, just corrected an error (but leaving the Version number). At first I wrote the document partly in german, but thought, why not using the english rules because this way I can post it here. But sadly I left a translation error.

    To add some information. At first my White Lion Noble was quite a Warscroll clone of Korhil (leaving the "bodyguard" out) , but after I made my Model out of the Dragon Nobles kit, I desided to change it.

    There are two things.

    1. You would need Korhils model after its quite impossible getting a nice one handed axe for a generic Aelf Model and second
    2. His Command Ability gave +1 to Wound against Monsters (do we really need this for a Army where the close combat infantry wounds on 3+?)

    I think I could make an extra warscroll (with slightly higher points) where the model can have 2 Weapons (for a version 1.1).

    Another thing I thought after posting the PDF.

    Perhaps I have made the Hunters a little expensive. 2 Units that could have a similar role are Black Arc Corsairs and Spireguard.

    Black Arc Corsairs are better in Close Combat, have halve the range but more shots in the Shooting Phase, a similar save (costing about halve of my hunters)

    Spireguard is better in close Combat, has a similar weaponrange (4" less) and also a similar save (costing 20 Points less)

    Perhaps I could make the White Lion Hunters about 20 Points cheaper.

     

    Perhaps you have some other suggestions.

    My only real goal with this is to encourage a little creativity and give some of the smaller factions a little more flair.

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  20. 13 minutes ago, syph0n said:

    I have the basis of an Order Serpentis army, about 1250 points, but obviously Drakespawn Knights aren't GA Order battleline. I don't have enough Order Serpentis units for 2k, but if I converted 10 models to Darkshards, I would have enough to make a GA Order army that used both all of my Order Serpentis units, but also my older models like the Sorceress on Drakespawn and the Bolt Throwers to make a 2k force. I just have loads of old Dark Elves sat primed and unloved that I had a brain wave about using. 

    So the problem aren't the Darkshards, more the Sorceress on Drakespawn and the Bolt Throwers that are only in the Legacy List and in this case not usable anymore for Grand Alliance (not having the Order Keyword) and Matched Play (not having a Pitched Battle Profile).

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