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  1. 1 hour ago, Doko said:

    Idoneths after morathi are top together kharadrons and seraphon and only due to grossly oberpowers warscrolls. Because his alegiances are bad but tye warscrols of both eels,sharks,turtle and even avatars are as 30% undercosted 

    I’m surprised you popped up in this thread complaining about idoneth.  Did someone you play against use the leviadon against you?

  2. In all honesty the rules and lore are second thoughts after they design the models and the whole point of their enterprise is to make profit off the miniatures.  Hence newer kits are more powerful and expensive armies like the daughters of khaine are so potent.  It’s nothing to bemoan it’s just the nature of the beast.  Enjoy it for what it is and hope you don’t come across an army of Akhelians in your own games 

  3. I’m pretty sure slaanesh is going to get a new battletome but we won’t see it until January or February now they are doing two weeks between releases.  That’s ok as that’s better than it was ten years ago when it was maybe once a month.  
    as for broken realms in pretty sure it’s gonna be broken realms gordrakk based on the two short stories they sent out with the savage orruks and now the gargant one.

  4. Considering whether kharadron where before they got the new battletome it’s understandable they got a little time in the sun.  
    Here’s hoping that Sylvaneth get their time with out terrain shenanigans being the only way to feasibly win with them.

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  5. Maybe the next broken realms book will function as the expansion and as they roll out the second wave they could drop the reworked battletome.   
    they could simply add that you gain a depravity point for each unit that engaged in a combat and didn’t get whipped out each turn on top of the character wounds mechanic and raise the costs of the summoning pool accordingly.  This would motivate people to get larger units which would lead to more sets being sold.  
     

    as an aside I never really considered getting a slaanesh army until this whole thing and the more I think about it the more I think I might jump in and get a few of these new sets.  I once owned ninety daemonettes back in 8th wfb and I’m not gonna lie I never really liked them.  I even converted a few as lamia with the lower halves of tyranid ravenors and had a good fifteen seekers but the models just never really stuck with me.  I mostly used blood letters and plaguebearers in those days so I never got motivated to give them a chance.  Now I might give slaanesh a second chance if these kits are somewhat affordable.

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  6. Thank you for the thought out reply.  My apologies for coming across as an wsshole.  You didn’t factor in battleshock which would have put the warriors at a disadvantage as well.  The way it seems there is no real way to fix disparity other than chalking it up to either bad rules writing or a bad matchup.  Sorry again I got heated thinking of folks having to rebase their entire are for slightly bigger bases just for the sake of balance.  
    even if the rules for these units were adjusted to fit the difference between base size advantage I feel as though it wouldn’t necessarily make a difference.  I know the models come before the game and selling more is important to the hobby, I just don’t want to have to see people suffer another big issue like when they decided that square bases had to be replaced by rounds.

    perhaps the blissbarb archers will come in twenty man units and they can function as well at holding objectives as you say smaller bases do.

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  7. 1 hour ago, CeleFAZE said:

    It's the equivalent of an additional rank for 25 mm units (as 25mm is just barely less than 1"), which is far more noticeable in a game where units are not locked into formation. In addition, 25mm base units in fantasy usually had higher strength and toughness or ward saves, which don't translate into AoS in any meaningful way. Also the buffs in AoS are frequently "wholly within", which makes larger bases a liability for making that happen.

    I understand what you all are getting at I just don’t see how it is that much of a disadvantage for the bigger models.  After setting up 10 32mm against 10 20mm it really doesn’t seem like it’s a game changing dynamic to force units like witch elves(that have a nil save outside the alter giving the ward save) or mortek(which have a fairly generic stat line and access to the same buffs as most units as rerolls and +1 to hit and attacks are fairly common across the game) I just don’t see how that should force the ones that can pull 4-5 4+ to wound attacks at a disadvantage because of the daunting number of attacks that unit can generate.  If every unit was on 32mm like it was warmachine the weaker units like these chainrasps wouldn’t even need to both existing as they would be the same as any other basic unit in their faction.  I get how it could be frustrating to have to face that in a game I just don’t see why it is that big of a deal.  
    In all honesty I hope that the blissbarb archers get two shots with the -1 rend as it is something that chaos is sorely missing all across the faction and other than horrors, ungor, and marauders I can’t really think of anything that has a 25mm base.   
    if I am still missing the point please let me know.

    also the proportions for the square to circle bases are nearly the same so the comparison is still well enough to be made.

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  8. I heard the same arguments from my friends back in the fantasy battles days who both used 20mm base unit hordes which got 3 ranks of attacks and every time I used the 25mm base saurus warriors, chaos daemons or chaos warriors I never really ran into a problem where I felt that the units were unfairly priced.  I understand when it is something like mortek guard that have the 2” range but how many more models do the 20mm bases really get into combat especially when they have the 1” range ?  Like 3 models to every 2 32mm base models?

  9. There is also Sigvald who in his previous incarnation was a pretty decent combat chaos character.  I totally agree @Enoby slaanesh needs a character and atleast several spells or prayers that affect the main keyword and not just the sub factions.  I think this would motivate people to not just buy more daemons and mortals but to be willing to try different lists with a variety of units .  I’m of the camp that more inclusive rules would help GW sell more figures which is good in the long run for all parties included.

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