Erdemo86

My biggest Problem is finding a Hero who can Carry the Command Trait and Artefact, because all good Heroes are Nameless! Prince V, Belladama,Radukar, Mannfred? so list building is very Hard. Prince V is so much better than a VLoZD. Im trying to make a good kastelei List but really struggling because of the Heroes. I have a feeling that something like this will be the competitive Meta and I really don’t like it because so many Models to paint. Vyrkos: Radukar Belladama Mannfred Vampire Lord Necromancer 3x 40 Zombies corpse Cart Total: 1935 points in my Dreams Kastelei would be the way to go but as more as I think about it, this list will be much better than a Kastelei list... 😭 Even if you’re trying to make a competitive Kastelei list, I would never want to loose on Radukar and Belladona. Also Prince V. Only the 3 Heroes would cost 970 points and still no Hero to carry a artifact and command trait.

What would you suggest for starting 1000 points kastelei? I think 2x5 Blood Knights are a must, but what else? some summonable unit seems good so I don’t waste my allegiance and a hero that complements.

How would you guys suggest a nice way to start with 1000-1250 points of Kastelei? i was thinking of Vengorian Lord 20x Grave Guard 2x 5 BKs Total: 950 or Prince V 2x 5 Bks 10 Wolves Total:980 do you think it will be Good? There is no command ability in this list that really shine ... I’m planning to go to some tournaments later and really don’t wanna waste my money because I’m a student. So would really need some help what to preorder first. ^^

Manny don’t gets Kastelei Buffs either. And the Melee Profil on Ct is not sheet if you get +1 dmg.

Yeah but don’t gets the buff of Kastelei.

No I didn’t, you’re right thx. So Radukar out of my list and Replace him.

I Agree too, You burn points on a very useless Wight King and the bubble is only 9 inch. Kastelei Bonus is not so Hard to get off, you will always destroy some units and get some buffs even if your not winning. I value a +1 dmg buff on a CT, Blood Knights, Prince V or a Radukar much mir over a +1 to wound on Grave guard. Also you can have a +1 dmg +1wound bubble for One Phase and you could even activate it in the enemy combat phase!

Yeah sorry +1 dmg. And I meant+1 W. You’re right. I don’t think That you will activate your bubbles in the first turn, because it will be hard to get in melee first turn. So first turn you are only using 1 Cp to Summon with Radukar.And try to screen with them. Maybe even deepstrike your graveguards on an objectives and move forward.Maybe activating your 5++ ward save to reduce losses. 2nd turn you will have 2 CP to activate 2 of your Command Ability’s.

Her are my thoughts so far: So I read all posts now and I’m really wondering why no one ist talking over Radukar? He summons 10 wolves, is a powerhouse in combat and his Command Ability gives +1 Attack in a 18 inch Bubble! Also what i think is very very very strong is kastelei with Rousing Commander! Once per Battle +1 A +1 wound in a 12 inch Bubble? Wtf Coven Throne is a No Brainer.+1 Hit +1 to Wound and + 1 save. Blood Knights and Grave Guards very good units! Prince V let a other Hero Attack in the Hero Phase? Yes please. Grave sand kastelei artifacts makes your save 5++ for one round. Kastelei seems for me to be the best Bloodline. This are the things that shine for me and say I’m competitive. So let’s try to make a list out of them with some comments of combos. Really want to know your opinion, maybe I’m wrong, but this looks for me like a very very very strong list: Prince Vhordrai (455 points) (Powerhouse, CA Ability: Let Radukar or CT attack in the Hero Phase) Radukar (325 points) (summons 10 wolves, +1 Attack bubble) Coven Throne (310) (gets Grave Sand and Commander: 1 turn Deathless save 5+ Bubble and +1 Atk +1 W Bubble, Command ability! 3x 5 Bloodknights (585 points)(Battleline) 20 Grave Guards (280 points)( So our Allegiance ability’s is not completly wasted, we can bring back wolves and/or Guards, also +1 atk from Radukar or can be buffed by ct) Total: 1950 points +50 for 1 Cp Goal : 1.Charge 2.Activate all your Bubbles 3.Attack again in Hero Phase 4. Get all Buffs from Kastelei after killing some units what do you think??

What do you think about something like that: KASTELEI Prince V Radukar Vengorian Lord 4x 5 Bloodknights

Radukar looks pretty good for me, 325 points but a free summoning of 135 points. So 190 points for him looks pretty good.

So no Change on generic V Lord on Dragon?

Where can I find the whole leak? Someone link me pls.

So im thinking a very viable and competitive list would be: prince V v lord on dragon corpse cart rest Blood knights

If I could have one wish for the new Battletome, it would be a complete Rework of Celestant Prime. Make him a big Centerpiece like he’s supposed to be. He has Gal Maraz right? So let us feel like he has it. Increase his points to 400-500 and let him hit like a truck. I don’t know, give him 8 Attacks 14 Wounds with his weapon Profile, maybe even a save after save and make him a wizard. Give him a Badass Comand Ability. Let him throw his hammer like Thor. Something... He is the wielder of the strongest weapon that exists. Gal maraz is the cover/symbol/logo of the Game. And than look at his warscroll... pretty useless.. just dreaming guys, I know we never will see this.. or even better, let Sigmar take his hammer back and give us Sigmar as miniature 😂😂

Do you have to choose a realm if you play a matched play game? I’m asking because of the spells that are available trough malign portens.

does someone know at what time the new Box/edition/stormcast come out?

oh ok looks like a fun gimmick but will not see play oin competetive envirements. 340 points and a wastet command trait for that gimmick? not worth

so, ok mannfred dont goes in melee and can move away. I dont understand whats so nice? he dont have any ranged Profile and a not so good spell. Casts 2 spells that most of the army will bann easiliy. Do i miss something? I really dont understand why this should be so good? Can someone explain why this is sooo op? I would understand that comment if he had nice ranged Profile or ability,maybe agood spell, but he has nothing.

we will see, lets talk again when the book is out. I stay to my opinion, but hope im wrong. no Changes to old warscrolls. Changes to Allegiance and Stormhost + adding new units. thats my opinion what we get.

It was likes this now how long? 4years? and it will stay like That, else why would say, that the new units have a more durable new armors if it would give the same save as old ones? I like your optimism but stay realistic. new armors, made from grungir himself, same save as old ones? No way I have a dejavu, same discussion as sacrosant released, and there they didn’t touched the old warscrolls too. GW wants us to buy new units and it’s buisnesswise the best for them.

So you think That Sigmars old Armors will give the Same save as the new ones? Like paladins? I think they stay at 4+. And the new battleline has new armor and shield. So 2+ for them too? I think shields will give reroll saves. My prediction: Old Models Stay the same as before new Speer Battleline 3+ Annhilator 2+

Who is Mannfreds biggest rival, we get to see tomorrow?

From the Lore side it says that Stormcast have now a new armor, so I think only the new units will have 3+ and 2+ Save. So it’s logical that the old models stay at 4+. I don’t think we will see a rework on old warscrolls. Allegiance and Stormhosts will sure get a rework but don’t think they will touch any old Warscroll, maybe some point adjustments. Lets hope that they at least rework Stardrake and Celestant Prime warscroll.

Mannfreds bloodline looks very weak to me compared to Kastelai Bloodline. Vargheist and Mannfred are both Vampires so why run this Bloodline over Kastelei? I don’t understand. Even if you play Mannfred and Vargheist in Kastelai they look stronger to me.