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You are right! And I hope quite badly they change their mind about resculpts also. I just do not want to get hopes up.

Chaos warriors are not in proportion at all. They weren’t in proportion to the fluff when they were first released (though I do think that for that time the models were well sculpted). I do agree that I don’t really expect them to be resculpted. I wish they would be, but all the pre-AoS rumors (that all turned out to be true) said GW was commited to not resculpting fantasy models.

It is a true shame that with the new amazing sculpts GW is putting out that they are sticking to their guns and not re sculpting certain units. Chaos warrios are old, and they would be absolutely fantastic with a new update bulking them out and sticking them on 40mm bases.

I need this army. Not want. Need.

A while? That's disappointing, if only because I want the range (Destruction, Darkoath) to keep moving forward and this seems like they might be back to a hold up somewhere.

I really wonder if GW is still having massive production issues. @LLV has been spot on with rumors for the most part and I can’t imagine he made up the Moonclan, etc. Lots of stuff GW is showing seems to be either a demo version that they made just one of or they are sitting on tons of plastic just waiting to release them. The lack of Gobbo or Darkoath models almost a full year after those rumors and Malign Portents models is odd.

When I looked up the Idoneth player on twitter, I think I saw that he wrote he only lost one game and it was to the eventual overall winner. Of course, he had no full army pics or a list or I would have shamelessly reported back here with the army comp.

Idoneth placed 8th at the GT over the weekend. Not sure yet of the list, but congrats and that’s a good sign!

It wasn’t a massive preview of anything specific for any system. It was a preview that there are new things coming but not what they actually were. To me, that is interesting, but not nearly what the Warhammer Community site hyped.

They really overhyped this for previews. At this point would it kill them to show the goblins or darkoath we all know is coming? I’m not sure a shadespire warband counts as much hype. We still haven’t seen one model for the Gobbos outside of that. It would be cool if they just said, we are gonna show off a couple new things or designs, not the massively overboard things GW puts out about biggest event ever etc etc.

Haha yeah I figured dude. No big deal we are all hype! Don’t let us down GW!

It just started at 1930 EST. Earlier poster was confused I think.

So I just went and took a look at the online store for Beastmen, and every single model is direct order only. Do we think that will change, because otherwise it seems like a very weird choice to not put those models back in stores or make new models.

Cubicle 7 really knocked this RPG out of the park. I think it will be in the discussion for best Warhammer Fantasy edition. I got the PDF, waiting on the print version to arrive, I highly encourage everyone to take a look at this one!

I read Arcane Corrasion to require LoS. If I am wrong, then that is definitely more useful than I thought (though I am not on the Reavers are the worst train either).

What is the math you are talking about, particularly compared to other units? I do think it is worth pointing out that the highest placing tournament list for Deepkin used Reavers. A tidecaster would not sit an objective better than Reavers. I am not sure how much more to say about that. A tidecaster could dispel from one potentially, but couldn't cast any spells that would matter, and has less wounds. And although yes Ishlaen would be harder to kill, why would you want them just sitting somewhere without even the chance to reach out and touch someone?

Were the Knights or the Juggernauts a bigger problem? I haven't played against Khorne with my Deepkin, so this is pretty interesting. I would think in a 2k list, that Thrall heavy could work because you would also have the points for a few mobility units against this list. When you say Thrall heavy to do you mean you had 3+ units? When I say Thrall heavy I mean two units of 30 just as a reference.

What was the Khorne list?

I played a quick 1k game against DoK, lost but I think that's because of how I played vs the overall army strengths. My army: Mor'phann Enclave Lotann Tidecaster (general) -Sands of Infinity -Lord of Storm and Sea -Pressure of the Deep Soulrender x2 Thralls x30 Reavers x10 Purple Sun Thoughts- Lotann is way better than I thought he was. I really thought he was terrible but he helped the Namarti and ton, and somehow was no pushover in combat. I am going to play him more, but for now he is going to be in every Namarti heavy army I make. The Soulrenders were rockstars. Good in combat, good at bringing back my troops. Reavers are great against DoK, mobility helped me with pressure and killed quite a few. The Purple Sun was sort of a waste. Although my opponent had a ton of Witch Aelves, I still felt it was too random and that I would have been better off trying to remake the list to get even a minimum unit of eels for charges.

Are you sure about this? I don't see any language about doing the addition each turn. The old scroll said "for each battle round" the Prime was in reserves you got +2. The new scroll does not have that same language. I think it is a one time bonus.

Just a quick update- app is fixed as far as the Reavers stat lines on apple products. Points are still wrong in Azyr.

The app still is not correct on either my iPhone or iPad.

Assuming that the AoS app nerf of Reavers is wrong (and I think I saw GW staff saying the app isn't accurate right now), I personally like Reavers for both their awesome sculpts and ability to skirmish well. That being said, they are not the foundation for a gunline nor are any ID units. If you would like reliably powerful shooting, I would fill that role with allies.