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I wonder if this release has been brought forward to fill the gap of the battletome being stuck in limbo. I know the terrain was due sometime this month, but I had felt that the new xpac spells were a while off, as they only just started to put out the new short stories this week. Wonder why they chose not to mention the release yesterday, considering the AoS reviews were already pretty light/lacklustre? Not 100% I will be picking this one up tbh. I like the bridge and the boatman, but the rest of the spells are rather lacking and almost identical to the terrain from the shadespire pack (which I've already used as nighthaunt scatter terrain). I'd had hoped for a very similar release to the original, which had a nice mixture of different spells but this feels like an afterthought. Tbf, I only want the spells for terrain or for interesting markers for wizard clashes for skirmish but I'm on the fence about this one. Wouldn't that be mostly useless as it would be the rules for spells that come in the box? That being said, always someone that is going to want more spells/models to chop up so probably find the book will end up cheaper on ebay in the next few weeks.

They are there. Warcry was in the video for sure, but the GHB was on there too.

I think the main problem is (at least for it is for me) is they over hype these reveals days. They get everyone buzzing about something new and exciting and we end up every time being shown stuff they have teased for months, with maybe a couple of new models. We have a date for warcry, but still nothing to go on what the game/box will contain. I know they do this too get people to buy it before anything negative comes out after release or after the buzz is gone. But after the awful shadow war, then necromunda and then kill team releases, I won't be buying warcry based one buzz (especially since the game still isn't grabbing me other than as a source of bits for skirmish). Today would have been a perfect day to show a demo game or run through some of the narrative/background. Even the cat model isn't that exciting on it's own, as there is no context for it. With the 40k models you know exactly what forces the new models are for instantly, even if they didn't tell you. They don't seem to want to have people getting excited for a new army/warband/whatever in advance, but this seems limited to AoS. 40k has the issue of being well established, so even if they didn't want people to know it tends to be pretty obvious. But as an adult, with finances and with so many other model companies out there, an out of context model doesn't grab me the way GW probably want it too. (and as a total personal opinion on this too: I hate guessing games/surprises. I get drawn into it here as it's all we are given to go one and I like being excited for the hobby. But even outside the hobby, I hate presents & surprises. I find them emotionally draining and unpleasant. I'd be more inclined to be excited if they didn't try to be so secretive over everything. Other wargames companies are straight forward and direct.)

Well that is a little bit of a let down. The new models are great, but I'm still not feeling warcry as its own game. It looks to be a good source of minis for skirmish/converters though. I had hoped for a little less kill team and a little more necromunda. I want to like it, as I love narrative/skirmish/warband games over 'full' AoS, but it really does seem like its Chaos Vs Chaos, with them having chucked the other warbands into to please people who want to use other things. I'd also been hoping for a more 'adventurers on the road' feel for the miniatures, rather than the shadespire sort of looking warbands we seem to be getting. Oh well, that gives me more converting opportunities anyway. I really though we would get a sneak peak of a battletome for a summer release, even if it is only one of those annoying pre-trailer trailers that people are so fond of putting out now a days. I suspect there might have been if not for the hold up with the current release. Probably playing it careful.

Well, Then I'm sold. I have hated painting flesh since I go in to this hobby. Which is why I've been stuck to my Grots for most of my time. I have a huge DoK army I brought on the grounds I might want to branch out from skirmish only to larger battles or at least have as a show case army but I've been dreading the thought of that much skin. Yeah, centralised content totally makes sense. I probably didn't express myself clearly- I'm multitasking a lot of things right now and caught up in the hype wave so rushing my posts both for speed and in excitement! haha! I'm sure even some of the tournament players don't want multiple books either. I've seen complaints that they are having to carry around too many books once again, which is only going to get worse this year with a 2nd book of endless spells and mercenaries & now points/GHB split.

Oh I want to buy their books. I just don't want to buy two+ books with content spread between them. Say if the GHB has the battleplans for sieges but find out the pitched book has the rules needed to use the battleplans. One GHB book a year is ok, it's not too pricey and I've skipped it when there wasn't anything in there that I really wanted. In a perfect world, they would put out a GHB for matched/tournaments players and we could get one GHB sized, chunky narrative/campaign book each year. They'd never please anyone though. Someone that likes both narrative & tournaments would then be put out that they had to buy two books! I just don't want to see them start splitting the GHB content into two books just for that touch more cash. (Though could be that both these come bundled together for the same price as the GHB alone. But it allows them to put out a 2nd pitched battle book or more every year to update things. That I would be ok with)

Yeah, this was my guess. It's a good idea but not for me. I'm still happily using my original GHB. Got tired of the never ending chase for balance in their games a long time ago. I just want to roll a few dice and have fun. I Just hope they realised this and don't put a bunch narrative/fun stuff, spread out over two or more books. I don't want to have to feel like I want to buy another two books for a couple of pages worth of content.

I trust him. He has a bow tie. Bow ties are cool. I wasn't too keen on the idea of the paints, one or two as effects seems like a good idea but a whole paint system seemed a bit too much (for my tastes, I've no issue with people that want to paint hordes like it) but that skaven is actually rather good. With a thin coat of agrax over the top, to even out the paint it you could have a horde painted in a week. As a skirmish only play, I'd be almost tempted to to finally paint that horde of skaven I have always wanted but never had the reason or will to do so! The blue & red are pretty vibrant as well. I wonder if they are going to a flesh version? I'm already mostly happy with the fleshwash over white look for quick skin. I don't expect they will, but I hope these are a bit cheaper then 'normal' paints as I can see you blasting through a pot painting a horde, as I guess there is no thinning.

Looks like there is going to be two books now instead of one GHB.

More contrast pictures from the book of faces. Poor Duncan must be crying into his paint palette, what with that tag line.

New ad mech transport, possibly? The aerials have the same design as the dunecrawler ones. Model I'd guess at something emperors children. Looks too small and no snake body to be the rumoured Fulgrim though.

Pictures are showing up out of Japan, of the new contrast paints:

Cheers for the heads up on this. They are the one kit I've been meaning to buy loads more off but always put it off as they've been around forever and there was always something 'better' to pick up. Grabbed a whole bunch (or should that be branch!) more to be able to put them away in storage for future projects. I like the new version, but no where near as much and they look far too tall to be useful for things like monster bases. I love making my own winter themed ones but there is just something so fantastic about the woods kits. Hopefully ebay will be flooded with them too as players look to unload them in favour of the new ones.

Infinite sized realms and a billion planets in the galaxy: But GW can only provide example of trees to cover both their main games. It makes perfect sense to keep both ranges of trees in this case. The new ones are clearly design with the Sylvaneth games in mind, but the citadel woods were always for more then just Sylvaneth play pieces. They are terrain for both of their main games. It's silly to replace them and not have both. As for playing with the old woods, everyone is so hung up on placing models directly inside the base. It's been a long, long time since I've played games of a size where I'd need to squeeze that many models in that sort of space for it to be an issue. But If I still did: "Those models here, right there, next to the trees. They have moved inside the woods". Simple fix. Even a little marker to show the unit is in there would stop someone from complaining they 'forgot' that a unit was inside the woods.

Oh dear. I wonder if the leaks were out too early and they've had to blame a hold up to save face or if there really is a problem with 'another country' holding the goods up. Can't wait to log in to facebook tomorrow morning. There is going to be all sorts of rows and political mud throwing over this. Personally, I don't mind. I've just spent a fortune on GW stuff recently, but it's all just sat there not being used as I'm totally snowed under with the work load from Uni this year, even my skaven battletome is still wrapped! This will give me some time to ditch some of these awful projects and get a bit more cash in the piggy. Looncurse is on its way, but even that will stay wrapped for another few weeks.

I didn't think much of the tree at first. The bad photo wasn't helping. But there is a bigger picture elsewhere and I zoomed in and that is some creepy, creepy stuff! I still prefer the old citadel wood trees, but the new tree is going to look great with the nurgle one, with some minor additions! The dice are interesting, but I don't think I'd have the patience to use them! Still love that worm spell though. It's going to be donated to my gloomspite warband though. No way are the pesky tree elves getting it!

Yeap, still plenty of mortal followers of Sigmar too, which are still loaded with the twin comet and bell iconography. Even if they still havn't gotten a battletome! I'm sure some art popped up not so long ago that showed the fanatics fighting along side stormcast. I've been collecting up parts for building my skaven themed necromunda table but hadn't found anything useful for the bell tower that would fit the skaven bell into. I'm hoping this building might just do the trick. The terrain/walkways also seem a little on the small side. I've been painting up my LotRs ruins for my skirmish table and the walkways are nice and huge, but the bases seem to be hanging off the edges in the picture. I hope that it's just a bad angle, as right now the buildings look tiny.

From the trailer videos, It looks like ruins with ruins with walkways. From the small glimpses we get, they look pretty generic. If they follow the release style of kill team, I wonder if we will see things like the blight kings get a box with the nurgle tree included. Only thing that makes this doubtful is there is a huge difference between the styles, sizes and cost of the different armies terrain piece. I'm hoping instead of team bundles like kill team but instead we get separate terrain bundles and just have bundles for warbands that need rules (future releases). Maybe you don't see much in the video, but they are holding back new chaos terrain. They did do away with the chaos fort not so long ago, maybe that is becasue they have a whole new version planned for this.

Nothing to do with sculpts though. This is simple because the name is similar. Warhammer/War banner. And that both are wargames related products. This isn't about someone sculpting something that matches GW ip or someone making 3d prints of GW products. The names simply sound similar. This is the link to read to find out about it more, https://footsoreminiatures.co.uk/pages/changes-to-company-name Doesn't make it decent. GW put out great product, but people are deluding themselves if they think that this is acceptable behaviour. If this was some big oil company or Conglomerate, people would be up in arms over bully tactics, but because GW have 'connected' through social media and put out a few amusing adverts, people are over looking they are the same exact company there were five years, when they did exactly have a good reputation. A modern company so much in the limelight of their fan base should strive for great product and great values. I wont post any more about this, as it's getting way off topic (which is my bad) but I still don't think GW should be rewarded for using other IP to promote their products when they stamp so hard on others. It's bad form.

I want to love their advertising videos, as they are hilarious, but they are using other peoples IPs to sell their products. Which really wouldn't be an issue, especially as this probably falls under fair use, but this is the same company that not so long ago tried to shut down anyone using anything close to their own IP. Even as recently as this year- just over a month ago they forced a small wargames company to change their name as it was 'too similar' too the name warhammer and they are in the same area of business. Not even selling IP infringing products, just the name that was similar. ('war banner' if you want to read about it online) 'New' games workshop is still very much 'old' games workshop in disguise. But aside from that- I do still only hope that this is just an addition(s) to the paint range and not a complete rework. The range is damn good as it is right now, and though the recent price rise has pushed it a little too high for my liking, it's still a very easy and convenient range to use.

That would suit me down to the ground. I get bit annoyed with these piece meal battletome releases, where I'm preordering the first bits only to order the other bits the following week having still not received the original weeks items. I know that looncurse isn't strictly part of the battletome release/Sylvaneth, but as they are the two main armies played in our house I'd been silly not to order it. I'd just like for that to arrive before I have to place another order. There is no real reason for it, I just find it annoying and have to keep track off all my orders whats due/whats not going to arrive for ages. Throw in things like made to order and I've ended up with several delivers all at different points of the process and had to keep track of what each one is doing, espcailly since they are prone to going missing. This is more down to UPS being jerks, but GW don't make it easy.

I like the warcry models, even if I'm still not convinced the game will be worth me buying, other then if it is crammed with terrain and new models. The lion/wolf does look a little flat though, like not much depth to the detail. Hopefully that's just a trick of the paint job/photo. It's not a problem if your an expert at painting, but I;ve never been a fan of painting flat organic parts, as it never looks right. I like the terrain as centre pieces , but as their modular version of sector mechanicus terrain, it's hugely lacking. I'd been hoping for far more detailed kits, with multiple levels. I'd thought that people hoping that we get mordheim houses as terrain was too far fetched, but had hoped for something more along those lines but with a sigmar twist- like the witchfate tower. These are Flat, empty looking pieces. The probably suit people playing huge games of AoS, with huge armies. If this is the terrain that is going to be showcasing warcry, that will be another reason for me not to move away from the skirmish ruleset. Oh well, they still look cool and I'll probably still grab one or two sets to use a base plate for a more detailed piece of terrain. I hope they are not replacement trees, if that is a new tree kit. I hope they continue to sell the old set as well, as old as it is now it's still a great kit and for being just a tree, there is an awful lot you can actually do with that old woods kit. I'd better grab a couple of the old kits while I still can as I'd hate to not have some spares in the house if they are replacing it. Hopefully they are just the new endless spell/terrain kit coming soon. Two different types of trees would be amazing though (Especially with a wood elf player in the house!) The mercenary rules sound great, I've been doing this along with my warbands anyway (Basically taking anything I like that fits the narrative) but I can see this causing some strife in the rest of the community. I see people getting in a twist over what armies should and shouldn't take, especially with people subbing in models from other collections and not sharing paint schemes! Oh well, sucks to be them I guess! Hopefully we see a freeguild book as part of this mega wave of battletomes this year, as old empires armies with mercenaries always looks so amazing on the tabletop.

Thanks! So I've not gotten around to posting many updates here recently. I've still been hacking away at the lead mountain, both for AoS & for Epic 40k (my other favourite game) but college has had me so snowed under that I forgot to add updates here and even updates to my AoS blog have slowed to a crawl. So here is a bunch of stuff I painted between my last update and before I got snowed under with all the work. Some more bits for my Grots and a few odds and ends for a Mordheim anniversary game we were considering putting on over the summer (but that might have to be postponed now, again due to my current work load) I've been working on way more then what I've finished painting, including way more Grot conversions, including some grotbag scuttlers, which I hope to get back too soon. I'd usually have replicated the whole posts between here and the blog, but I'm writing this in a quick gap between working, so I didn't have time, so this time there is more to see and read on my blog, if you so wish: https://frostgoblin.blogspot.com/ I hope to be back to posting more regularly soon. Mordheim:

The paint sounds like it will be a good tool for painting, I just hope that its an additional range rather then replacing what we have now. The range we have now is pretty damn good but I've been expecting a paint overhaul for sometime now. It's been a while and they do love to ditch their paint ranges, especially since half the range currently have names for IP they have all but ditched in this side of the hobby. A new range now would probably have me move to another brand full time, as most paints last me a long, long time but I'm bored of having to buy replacements that don't really match any more. I was less bothered about it years ago, but as my painting output is radically different now, espcailly with the sort of games I play now, another big change will spoil some of the enjoyment I get from it. I'd probably moved to vallejo full time. A handful of new colours like the recent thick ghosts inks would be cool though. I admit to buy the paints and not having found a use for them use, but they do look great and I'm bound to end up with a project I'll use them on at some point.

What I find odd about the new spell (which is superb) is that they have used static grass on the base. Which is odd as they dropped it from their stores not so long ago. Wonder if it will make a return.