Kugane
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Personally i would prefer new chapters that are represented with a chapter colour, a head and shoulder swap. Not thrilled to buy yet another series of new minis if it comes to that, lol.
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14 hours ago, Skabnoze said:
What will I do without a constant and regular injection of new plastic kits?
Don't tell me I am going to have to start digging into the model-kit reserves that I have been hoarding in my garage for the past ~30 years...
Its time to start sculpting your own out of green stuff. Or... toilet paper rolls. Both equally valuable.
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1 hour ago, JackStreicher said:
BBC News - 12:16, 19th of March 2020:
“Games Workshop, the World leading producer of miniatures and games, and creator of the popular „Space Marine“ franchise has been performing well despite of the Covid-19 epidemic. All of their retail shops within Europe had to shut down during the development of the crisis, yet their losses were dampened by a rise of online sales, as our sources claim. The company seems to be a rare exception in these demanding times and overall Games Workshop seemed to be fine, until this morning, when dramatic events unfolded:
Due to a lack of workers and the pressure to keep the production going one employee accidentally overheated one of their machines, used for the production of plastic miniatures and caused a fire. Too late the fire was discovered, so it spread throughout the entire factory complex engulfing everything in flames. Yet the situation somehow got worse as a so called „Warpgate“ manifested right above the second production facility, demanding „Blood for the Blood God and Skulls for the Skullthrone“ - the perplexed firefighters and employees did not meet the Warpgate‘s demands in time it seems. A few more seconds passed then the Gate vomited forth a torrent of burning blood, incinerating the second factory building. In the meantime winged creatures charged out of the gate towards the GW headquarters. The mostly winged creatures fly out of the Gate in such numbers, that even the ground started shacking, just to be ripped asunder and burned alive by massive beams of lightning raining down from the skies until the Headquarter was surrounded by hulking gilded figures shouting out a Greek letter. „Sigma!“ was echoed a thousandfold by each golden hone - as a shocked worker told us.
We had a chance to talk to the Lead Game Designer Jarvis Johnsson who only hastily answered with one cryptic Sentence: „I hope these Sigmarites don‘t roll as many ones as I do when I play them“! - He then continued, with renewed vigour, to hastily write down notes into an archaic leather-bound book“.
Keep up to date with our live ticker.
- All of this is Fake News, I just had to make at least a few people smile in these times 😃
You had me until warpgate.
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10 minutes ago, Andrethegreat said:
I think it is sad that China will get away with this, after hurting millions of peoples around world, when this ****** is done it will be business as usual. and why don't we do things like this for flu out brakes.
Barring some psychotic people, I don't think many people wish this type of harm upon themselves or others. So I don't think blame or responsibility should lie with them. Diseases happen, and with the way our population density and globalization keeps increasing, we are going to face more outbreaks like this, many could even be worse than Corona.
What I feel is slightly rediculous is the fact that all of this could have been avoided if people practiced some proper hygiene. Also, acting before infections start, not after, would have been a huge help to avoid all this.
If the quarantine started globally the moment they started seeing it spread to other countries, the disease could have been contained much easier. Yet, the majority just stood by waiting for stuff to get serious before taking any proper action.
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At times like this I wish games like warhammer underworlds wasnt locked behind a pay wall. I think GW really missed the mark in an era of F2P games where people can buy the cards/stuff they need ingame. Especially now in the whole quarantine.
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20 hours ago, zilberfrid said:
I don't prime with wraithbone, which is yellowish. I may also have a bad pot, but I looked at the examples in the shop and that was similarely purple. Your miniature looks a lot better than what I got out of it.
I had very bad results using on corax and grey seer myself, so seems the wraithbone is almost a must for these. I didnt for this model, but lahmian medium 1:9 ratio helps me more than contrast medium for proper flow.
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4 hours ago, zilberfrid said:
It's also purple, which is okay if you prime yellow (I saw it with wraithbone, and am still not a fan), but rather dead with Gray Seer. I like the experiment (using complementary colours to fall in the recesses, thus not darkening as much as classic washes would) but I don't think it was a success.
Purple? I did the skin with guilliman on wraith bone on this miniature, but can't seem to notice the purple. Do you have a bad pot perhaps?
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3 hours ago, zilberfrid said:
After using them quite a bit, I stopped for most applications. The transparency makes colours too grey, and they have a bit of a soft, gel-like look to them. I still use them for the pressure suits of Arkanauts and bases, and then drybrush that with a highlight, but I consider the Gulliman flesh a total failure (only works if you paint the surface with a different undercoat, and in that case, why bother with the cotrast?) and others just not useful enough. Way too fragile coats are really not helping, as the varnish also makes the reflection look a bit weird.
Wood and leather do work for me in contrast, (using a mix of blood angels red and wyldwood for oxblood).
Metal approximations of primed metal with contrast over it just don't do it for me, and could more convincingly be done with washes.
I still haven't stripped what I did before, but will do so when I get to it. I noticed a short while ago that I did not like newer paintjobs as much as older ones, and part of that is because of my overuse of contrasts.
All in all, useful in a few cases, but not as much as I'd hoped.
Guilliman flesh has hit and misses. It looks ok on small faces and applied thinly, basically human infantry. It worked out decently on my ogor tyrant's face as well, so happily slapped it onto the gluttons their body. I regret it because it just pools up in deep recesses without a proper way to control it. Its ok for tabletop standard, but damn, lol.
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As long as you dont use bright colours, orange, yellow, etc, most reds and browns go really well on a grey > white highlighted undercoat.
I also tried white undercoat, cover whole mini with basillicum grey before you apply other colours for much richer shadows. It works decently, but I prefer the first method. It creates something along the lines of left side model. The right side model was a corax white prime, no highlights and just adding contrast.
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1 hour ago, Heijoshin said:
This is great, thanks! I will give this a whirl for sure.
Regarding the purple tint, was that from pics of the desert ruins? That could be the case, as I have a terrible abilitly to take colours out of an image. I was thinking of doing something similar to what you suggest, but with a reddy brown mix as I noticed that some pictures have a reddish brown tint to them, but that could just be the sun setting in the images.
I should really get my eyes checked out....😁If you cant do it by looking at it, one way is to screenshot it and open it in paint and sample random areas to see what colour it is. I havent checked for the ruins, just guessing there are some purples in there :P. I am sure if you sample the highlights you will find just that.
also, i have had decent results using very small ammounts of texture paint to add weathering to buildings and vehicles. I use make up sponges that i rip apart and kind of dry "sponge" blend some texture around here and there. Do it on a test piece first though since adding too much of it can just make it look way too messy instead
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Doing a grey like standard mechanicus, drybrushing it quite roughly and focus on the edges with your highlight colour, probably an off white in this case maybe celestra grey. Cover it all in a 9:1 mix black templar:lahmian medium. After that add sand texture here and there and I personally like to weather stuff by very lightly and very dry drybrushing with tyrant skull or the likes. This step is extremely easy to mess up and look unnatural. The less on your brush the better. Finally, after all that is done. There may be some powder all over your model from drybrushing. I tend to use a 1:1 mix of lahmian and aggrax earthshade to "wash" the dusting away where i don't want it to be. Also the aggrax adds some earth tones where needed. In your case however that may be a desired effect though to have some light dusting here and there.
Also when i google conan exiles ruins... those ruins seem to almost have a slight purple tint to them. Maybe mess around mixing a tiny hit of purples into your black templar?
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On 2/20/2020 at 12:35 AM, grimgold said:
So getting back into AoS after selling off my nighthaunt, I have two SC: BCR boxes and the Ogor half of feast of bones, and probably an extra box (I was thinking leadbelchers to give me some options). So I was thinking something along the lines of the attached list, do you guys think there is a better way to configure the models, like should I grab a box of iron guts instead of leadbelchers?
Allegiance: Ogor Mawtribes
- Mawtribe: Thunderbellies
LEADERS
Huskard on Stonehorn (320)
- General
- Command Trait : Storm Chaser
- Blood Vulture
- Artefact : Shatterstone
- Mount Trait : Black Clatterhorn
Tyrant (160)
- Artefact : Sky-Titan Scatter Pistols
- Big Name : Fateseeker
UNITS
4 x Mournfang Pack (280)
- Culling Clubs or Prey Hackers with Iron Fists
4 x Mournfang Pack (280)
- Culling Clubs or Prey Hackers with Iron Fists
1 x Ironblaster (120)
4 x Leadbelchers (160)
6 x Ogor Gluttons (240)
- Pairs of Clubs or Blades
BEHEMOTHS
Stonehorn Beastriders (300)
- Ogor Mawtribes Battleline (Beastclaw Raiders General)
BATTALIONS
Eurlbad (140)
OMTonthecheap
Competitive-wise, Ironguts are much stronger than mournfang in damage output. I would suggest keeping the two handed weapons of your mournfang and pick up 1 or 2 extra units of gluttons and kitbash the weapons onto there to turn them into ironguts. The leftover mournfang bits can still be built using glutton leftover bits and some cutting to create 1-handed variations mournfang for friendly games.
Edit: Also frostlord on stonehorns are stronger than huskards. Somebody did all the calculations on this forum a few weeks ago. So dont glue your huskard and create both a frostlord and huskard so you can swap them around in the future if rules change. They sit on the stonehorn quite stable anyways without glue.
Lastly, I think 2 frostlords on stonehorns are superior to a huskard + beastriders in general.
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Just now, Skreech Verminking said:
Well I was actually referring to the underworld warbands😋, but we could certainly use a big reveal, if that’ll be the case this year is sadly something I don’t know😢😅
Well, even if we had warbands similar to the sepulchral guard, in the case of Eshin, 1 assassin,1 gutter runner and 6 or 7 nightrunners would already create enough variation in poses to just use then as counts-as units. I would gladly splurge 100 to 200 euro on 60 or so eshin friends. In fact if Spiteclaw had more models in the box I would have even used those.
A part of me still hopes existing warbands that have been powercrept get an update in the form of new cards and a few extra models or something.
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9 minutes ago, Skreech Verminking said:
Skaven!
we are still missing a set of clans pestilence, eshin, masterclan, moulder and skryre
I actually put my skaven purchases on hold until Eshin gets proper support. Its the year of the rat, so I have my fingers crossed for a big Skaven release wave.
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5 hours ago, Vitch_EGS said:
Great thanks very much. Will get planning and scheming some paint schemes soon then, got a busy year planned for modeling for sure.
Just a tip. If you use contrast paint on the ogres. I personally had poor results with pure guilliman flesh because of excessive pooling in their folds, muscles and flat areas. I had better results with cadian flesh tone + highlighting with wraithbone and then using a wash of 50:50 reikland flesh:lahmian medium. All other parts on the ogors contrast worked great :).
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6 hours ago, Vitch_EGS said:
Thanks for the advice I like the look of it. I think I would add a mournfang pack over a stonehorn just for variety when painting. Thanks alot for the help.
How are the Thundertusks too. Still ok if I did end up going full herd?
The thundertusks arent as efficient unfortunately, but still decent. If you want variety go with gluttons instead of mournfang.
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On 2/5/2020 at 12:42 PM, Drastion said:
Kugane
Those iron guts bits are a pain to get too. Ended up buying some random ogre stuff just so I could get the random weapons in it. Yeah need the bear trap so it wont be so much cutting to get them to work for what I need.
Mainly want to make a gutbusters based army with converted gnoblar to make for the models I am not too fond of. Looking back I realized they fall into the theme of the grot rebellion from a game called gorkamorka. Just more of a wood shop look rather than the old junk yard look.
Well if you need the bear trap let me know or any of the other bits for that matter. Where do you live?
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5 hours ago, TheMuphinMan said:
Skaven got cuts
RIP deathrunner and poison wind mortar
A sad day for all Skaven fanatics :(. On the plus side.... The mortar crew were perfect acolytes.
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9 minutes ago, Drastion said:
Hoping I can get some advice on getting parts for conversions. Seems like the bits stores like hoard o bits an bitzbox having page after of out of stock items. With no local people playing ogors. Where is a good place to get them particularly things like bear trap from the stonehorn so there are not fingers all over it, crew from the scraplauncher, and then things like the fur pelt from the cannon or bodies of beast riding ogors.
Space marine bits are easily found but anything fantasy related is few and far between.
Your best bet is trying on forums like these in the buy and sell section. I am personally looking for two handers from ironguts since they are out of stock on GW's site. In case of the bear trap, i assume you need the one on the chain? If so, I probably have one. And the fur pelt, I can probably miss 1, since I want variety on my ironblasters anyways. I'm afraid I can't help with the scraplauncher crew, since I plan to convert them to gnoblars
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The ogors of blood bowl are great if you have some glutton bits leftover. 2 of the running ones are pretty much useless, but you will have a lot of spare gnoblars
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Anyone else considering to pick up the nurgle wurmspat warband for ogor conversions? The models their poses and size seems decent to de-nurglify and kitbash with some ogor bits to create some maneaters or butchers.
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8 hours ago, Honk said:
Of course not... what a fools advice 🥳
hear my wise words, since I know all of the very important details. And I’m certain you both have all the models available 👻
slaneesh is very fast and aggressive in playstyle, good summoning through depravety points
nurgle plays a bit slower, but can also be quite fast with the guo bell and the trees and stuff. Also the army is quite grindy not so much damage output, but the kings have a decent punch (also wheel shenanigans and nurgle deluge from big ugly dude cab puke out mortals within line of sight)
the real tactics will come to play during set up and enemy engagement. I threw a bag of wolves into a slaneesh meatgrinder and he got all the depravety points he wished for. Same counts for black/blood knights or boarboyz etc...
against nurgle the game is pretty straight forward. Kill his heroes, debuff his damage dealers and don’t be afraid to take a mortal from the trees to prevent summoning points.
all pretty equal and no big ****** ups to fear.
for the kinky-crew, prepare to fight last, use min skellis/ghasts to roadblock his crazy trains then debuff and counterpunch. with the big graveguard or reaper units (I hate bedsheets, but they are very good). A full mob of demonettes will kill 40 skellis and cripple your counterpunch so for their first impact you should block the front, get your reaper right behind and when the skellis are dust, pile in and destroy.
A maxed out unit with buffs from Necromancer and vampire will give them the hurt the crave. If one of those units run into 3-5 hp models, he‘ll end up with 20-30 points to summon a new unit or a keeper... pretty crazy
heed my words and nothing can go wrong.
coven throne, flying vampire, two necromancer
3x10 skeletons and 2x30 reapers
with an extra command points 1790
I‘ll leave you 200 points to be creative, roadblock endless spell maybe a corpse cart to buff regeneration.
you‘ll play battle of the pass. their summoning can endanger your home objective. Nurglings out of terrain or a well placed tree... else you’ll want to run up your skellis and fly ghosts up behind to block the objectives in no mans land. Personally I would try the denied flank approach, be strong one side and the middle, then push over to the other side.
you partner could go hunting, brutes vs. Keeper can be good or double maw crusher, since the impact hits are resolved during the charge phase and are not hindered by the locus of diversion. Then even with active locus, some damage should be done to bracket monsters or thin out the lines.
I‘m kinda ignoring all the nurgle stuff, since (imo not humble at all) they have Standard skills and abilities, that do not need extra spezial tactics. Kings with rend and newly exploding on a roll of 6s are tricky, but otherwise are business as usual. Only kinky boys/girls/fluid have crazy mechanics which should be considered with extra care...
I (and our mighty God-King Big Daddy N) expect nothing but a crushing victory...
crush your enemy!!! See them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women/men/undefined thingies... whatever as long as they are lamenting !!!
I am humbled in your wisdom, oh ancient one.
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7 minutes ago, NauticalSoup said:
So, that might be why the TO in question made those decisions, but that isn't a global policy - at least not one that's enforced. And nobody is getting their license revoked because a TO accidentally mislabeled an image on social media. The literal worst outcome of that is they go "Whoops, sorry!" and take the image down. In practical terms it's the job of the people making those posts to label images properly - also I think a greater concern for taking pictures of events to advertise is painting and basing requirements.
Source: Years of playing at a GW store (and in tournaments) against a guy using Gondor Knights as Roughriders.
Thats good news and widens the conversion possibilities in that case. Also a bit sad to have been told wrong information from GW employees. But oh well, guess each shop has its own rules.
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26 minutes ago, NauticalSoup said:
The correct answer is always "It varies". Games Workshop has no official standard for what sorts of conversions are allowed, even at their official stores it varies based on management and the TO.
For unit identification purposes, you're on track - if it is on the right base size, vaguely the right scale and your opponent is unlikely to confuse it for something it's not, most people will be okay. You'll still be better off if you confirm it with them as a courtesy.
And I have no idea what Kugane is referring to with 'copyright claims'. Games Workshop maintains the LotR miniatures license, and you own the miniatures you're using, so copyright is irrelevant. What's going to matter is if you're playing in a WYSIWYG event or if your local play site has policies around conversions and proxies.
From what I remember what I was told, when they take pictures at events and advertise/cover it on social media and articles, if they accidentally label a miniature as Age of Sigmar for example, they can get in trouble for wrongly using the LotR IP and can get their license revoked.
I guess somewhere in their license there are rules what they may and may not use the IP of LotR as. My guess is that they are not allowed to falsely label anything LotR related as Warhammer? I was told it has to do with the copyright of the product.
I found out when I wanted to use some LotR stuff for freeguild conversions :/. I would have assumed since they own the license there would be no issue, but was told I CAN use warhammer 40k models for fantasy as a base for conversions since they own the full copyright, but I CAN NOT use LotR products. Even if heavily modified to look like AOS stuff.
AoS 2 - Ogor Mawtribe Discussion
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I thought i saw it on the arm of the pictured gargant. Check his wrist.