ScionOfOssia

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They’re not gonna axe Gloomspite. Massive sales figures, new model support, actually narratively relevant in every. Single. Edition. If anyone’s in danger from Destro, it’s the Ogors, not arguably their favorites.

Plus, for all the talk of Bonesplittaz having loads of fans, nobody was bringing them to tournaments, and people will bring armies with awful rules to tournaments simply because they like them. Them getting axed is spectacularly unsurprising.

And now we know what Skaven are getting from Warcry, because I doubt they’ll squat the Mawpacks (Gorger replacements), or most of the new ones who serve to refresh older models. But I won’t fully be certain until we see confirmation. Mir Kainan isn’t getting banished to the Shadow Realm yet, but now that doubt exists, and they might axe the new Teratic Cohort for some reason after 4th edition which makes me wary of buying a duplicate.

The Skaven are winning their popularity poll because they can cast the strongest spell in the game: Instant Vaporization Of You And Everyone In Your General Vicinity

You mean the Celestar Ballista?

My thoughts: -No more Battleline: As a Bonereapers player, this barely impacts me at high point games. But in low points? Maniacal laughter as the sounds of an unreasonable number of Morghast descend on people -Command Points being rare: The OBR are probably getting 2nd Edition Relentless Discipline Points with 3rd Edition Ossiarch Commands. The removal of battleshock will probably be more impactful, as it possibly frees up an entire trait for us. Still curious about these new commands, because I’m still not big on the All-Outs. Not adding heroes to units: Thank god, aura buffs are kind of our whole force multiplier besides spells. These changes largely seem good, at least for the Bonereapers. But we’ll have to see everything else first.

That's 2 units of clan rats, who are the chaff to end all chaff. 40 clan rats is about what I would expect.

I feel like at this point, if you have more than like, 30 units and don't need a full-on refresh, you shouldn't be getting much new for at least a bit (Warcry and Underworlds excluded, although the S2D could take a break on the first for a while and several armies could stand to go a while without an Underworlds band but that's neither here nor there) until most other factions have caught up (Excluding SoB because Hyper-Elites don't play by the same rules as everyone else and will always be smaller). You should be getting your old stuff replaced, but beyond that, you have enough stuff to go a bit without a major overhaul or another wave.

Who would the Bonereapers be splitting? There’s less than 20 bloody models!

That sounds like a balance nightmare.

We know Warcry is this week because someone accidentally revealed their video review for Pyre and Flood a few days ago.

I want Nagash to just get fed up with and start absolutely beating the hell out of them by hand out of spite. “I cast ‘These Hands’. You cannot unbind them.”

God I hope the end of 4th involves Nagash command grabbing Skreech Verminking or another sufficiently important Verminlord through the biggest Skaven belltower in the realms before Hand of Dusting him. It would be nice to see Nagash get a no-holds-barred win for once and god knows the quotes we’d get would be excellent.

We don’t actually know if Bones And Boughs is the last one. That’s just speculation.

Low points games are already unbalanced and unless they do points adjustments for lower level games, I don’t see that changing any time soon. Their new 1k points rules are an okay start, but since it’s pretty much what my current league runs at 1k, it’s gonna skew hard into either hyperaggro or hyperdefense and some stuff will just win.

Ah, but this ignores 1 fundamental rule of reality- The Soulreaper is not allowed to be good anywhere it shows up!

How tho, the OBR Spearhead would either need to be reworked to include a Liege-Kavalos or the Soulreaper will need to be reworked to, for the first time in history, not suck.

You mean to tell me that I can finally annoy my opponent by unleashing literally every Endless Spell in my collection onto an opponent not nearly ready for my bs? If you’re right, this will be unbelievably funny.

Yeah, RN it feels like my Bonereapers won’t really be able to contest against Horde armies- Who cares about killing 30 Zombies when my opponent still outweighs my Mortek Guard with the ones left? Or my 20 Namarti Thralls kill 40 Clanrats but still get outweighed by the remainder? I need to see the new version, because it could very much be punishing for Elite armies.

There’s also a Chaos Duardin forge specifically named and marked for death in the Ossiarch Bonereapers 3rd Edition Battletome.

I hope that some stuff gets changed. I like Relentless Discipline, but it feels kind of boring. Tides of Death seems cool, but capitalizing on it seems hard without basically going Run+Shoot instead of Run+Charge on 2, because so much of the army wants to charge on 3 to capitalize on High Tide+Wave Riders/Crash Upon The Foe/Biovoltaic Barrier/Wave Rider, and none of those guys are seeing play currently

We can safely assume the Bonereapers existed, at least as a concept, since the End Times because there’s no way the Morghast was developed in isolation and then the rest of the range spun out from 2 models.

I don’t even think that’s likely- Darkoath don’t fill the same niche, and there’s really not many ranges left to update to AoS: CoS (Assuming Dwarfs and Elves stay) need those done, but that could be handled by a 2nd Wave. Bonesplittaz, who I could see going along with the end of Big Waaagh! since it seems likely Kruleboyz and Ironjawz get their own Vanguards and Battletomes. Skaven, who are getting theirs in a few months. Ogors, who it would shock me if they were more than 2 years out from theirs. Beasts, who are the only ones rumored to vanish, but have faction terrain, endless spells, and could probably be AoSified fairly easily by leaning into mutation and wild monsters. The only reason they would be going would be that the TOW team had enough influence to make it so, or GW wants to further bloat the second largest battletome in the game.