Siegfried VII

All the old stuff are the same as they were before, even the point costs..

No worries mate we all learn together! I've been playing since the bginning of AoS and even before from the 6th edition of warhammer, but I'm always learning new things and evolve. Lumineth are a tough army to master so there is a learning curve.. That makes it more interesting though in the end! 😉

If you want them as screens, sitting on the back objectives or as extra wizard yes. If you want them to be able to fight 20 is the way to go.. Alumnia will be my nation of choice too. I think they're awesome!

He he, allright I give up..

True but the second Cathallar will add an extra spell choice and an extra spell cast which with our great Lore is always good..

The wording on the leak for their battalion was worded in a weird way, so I'm not sure how to think of them... It seems they can be more tankier and much more resistant to mortal wounds... Plus they get a nice debuff we weren't aware of.. My main problem with them is the fact that they need to stay put in order to be effective and that can be a problem...

You got pm!

I know, I won't get any extra boxes before it is confirmed and I have made my initial list building... Thanks for the heads up regardless! 🙂

In this points value I may be tempted to get more than two boxes of these guys.. 🙂

Agreed. You can't reason with some people.. And yes if a dude doesn't want to play with us on the principle the army is broken without even having tried to actually play and aquire at least an informed opinion they aren't worth our time...

I'm afraid if I go there and post what I want to post I will be very offending and end getting banned from the forum...

That sounds nasty.. With only 8 wounds the normal spirit sounds super squishy and only 1 rend his shooting get much worse... I can't for the life of me understand why the normal spirit versions get so inferior to the named one..

Done!

Me too! I haven't seen the normal spirit of the wind. Let us spread the love! 🙂

The shrine rules are awesome and give an extra incentive not to use Teclis which is great! It gives extra control of our casting and unbinding and the free command abilities will help us tons as our army at the moment at least is starving for command points!! I think it is wonderful without being offending!! 🙂

In here we have no negativity from LRL fans, I haven't checked the facebook group today, but up until yesterday I don't remember LRL players be negative.. The main issue that may come to light (and I believe is the reason some people are worried) is the fact that the new units are prone to direct comparisons with other lumineth units already existing due to having similar roles with the relult ofone being perhaps clearly better than the other.. The Windchargers while I feared in the beginning the unique movement rules make them a truly unique and interesting choice and I believe they will find their place in lists, especially with the players who prefer high movement armies to pilot.. The Bladelords with what we know so far seem to have a good chance of suffering from this effect if they end up being worse in the damage department than wardens, not as resilient as stoneguard and worse horde killers than dawnriders.. How many wounds they have and their point cost will be crucial in the end.. Another unit that may suffer from this are the ballistas which have a high chance of directly compete with the sentinels. Well we'll know in a few days one way or the other.. 🙂

They always show in the pictures the contents of the box/product so 99% there 5 in a box. 😉 I don't see them do that, but I do see them perhaps changing Ymetrica so it boosts all the aelementiri.. Personally though I would just add a 5th nation (like Helon for example which was already mentioned in a wacom teaser post) and have it boost the hurakan units. It would be more unique that way and and we would still have 3 more nation of which 2 could be for the other temples and another one generic for when Tyrion gets his time to shine..

Agreed. I have a difficult time tempering my nerves with what I read.. And it's not only on the forum, but also on the official aos posts on facebook were there is 0 moderation and the comments get even worse.. There really is no excuse. And it is not a matter of likes and dislikes. Personally I was never fond of dwarves and they are not my cup of tea but I never went to trash talk them on any forum/facebook comment or disrespect the guys who love them or go and ******/complain like the sky is falling on topics that actually have a different purpose.. I believe it is one of the main negative sides of the internet as especially in the last few years there are tons of people who hide behind their keyboards and think they can be toxic/rude/offending without any consequences.. Most of these people are cowards at heart and I highly doubt they would have the balls to behave this way up close and personal.. Sorry if that came out as a rant but I needed to get it out of my system..😅 Hopefully the next preorder will be Cursed City and they'll leave us alone.. 🙂 On topic I did some math too using the AoS Statshammer app and I compared 10 Bladelords with 20 Wardens on the assumption they will be about the same points and Bladelords will have sunmetal weapons and power of hysh. x20 Wardens with power of hysh deal and without the bonus of fighting a unit that has charged do 16,28 damage on a 4+ save unit. x10 Bladelords using flurry of blows with power of hysh and 3 attacks per model (so 30 all in all) do 13,33 damage on a 4+ save unit. x10 Bladelords using flurry of blows with power of hysh and 4 attacks per model (so 40 all in all) do 17,78 damage on a 4+ save unit. So in order to outperform the Wardens each of the Bladelords in the unit must have 4 enemy models in range.. any fewer than this and they are worse.. x10 Bladelords using perfect strike do something like 7,43 damage on a 4+ save unit. (which is what 5 Sequitors do with half the points most likely) x10 Dawnriders on the charge fighting a 1 wound non mounted unit with power of hysh do 20,33 damage against a 4+ save. Of course the Bladelords mathhammer is based on conjecture and assumptions since we lack the full picture but I did it to give us a possible taste of what we may be getting.. I have ordered 20 of them so I hope their points make them at least viable if not valuable.. 🙂

I also have Stormcast mate and I understand what you felt.. Perhaps the best course of action is to steer clear of the rumour topic for the next 1 or 2 weeks..

It's like they have PTSD for elves.. What makes it worse is that I only see this hatred only for Lumineth.. It makes no sense.. You're right though, we 'll always love our army and their salty tears won't dampen my joy and enthusiasm for our shiny Aelves!! 😁 Yes with sunmetal and power of hysh they will deal lots of damage! All in all though all will be dependant on the points of the unit, but again we get very interesting and unique rules and it is the right direction for the rules writers of gw imo! Yes, in the end they don't deserve the attention..

And yet some people are complaining about this too... Are they braindead or something?? I'm really tempted to go in the rumour topic and troll them..

I have already ordered 4 boxes of Bladelords and I sincerely hope I don't regret it... 😅 That said if the have sunmetal weapons and power of hysh they can be quite deadly against horde units..

Some people either don't really play the game or are not good at all at playing the game.. That is the only explanation I can find regarding the comments I see sometimes in the facebook posts or in this forum.. And I try my best not to get angry at those people as they are driven by ignorance... still they poison the well and create false and negative sentiments regarding certain units and armies.. That said I must say I'm SO MUCH excited for these rules.. It may some that I'll self the mountain part of the army because of this but these kind of rules are just what I want for playstyle.. Fast, fragile and strategy in the movement phase! This is going to be an awesome army with great choices! The hype train has left the station!!! 🤩

That is correct! He was never a mage on his own in any of his incarnations throughout the years.. always with the use of his talisman and at some point he didn't even have that (his blind swordmaster version). So fluff-wise it is the way it always was.. It would be nice to be a wizard but if I'm honest I would prefer a couple of wounds more on his profile to make him more viable as he dies very quickly from mortal wounds.. 😝

Yes! It becomes 15 inches! 🙂