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    AoS 2 - Idoneth Deepkin Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by LordRhulak

    Thank you for your replies. I really like the ellegance and sleekness that the flying stands give the eels, so I think I'll opt for magnatizing. Do you have and tips? I haven't actually magnatized anything before...

    Also, what size are you using?

    AoS 2 - Idoneth Deepkin Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by LordRhulak

    On 12/19/2020 at 9:21 AM, mrteige said:

    It all depends on how you wanna construct your army. right now i run mostly ishlaen guards but thats because i run mostly sharks as my damage output. You coud easily swap sharks for morsarr guards.

    If I was to give an advise I would say build 6 (1x6) morsarr guards and 9 (3x3) ishlaen guards and then you have the eels you need for an akhelian corps army. ;)

    Thanks. I know I'm goign to field lots of sharks, so I think I'll make Ishlaen Guard. 

    On another note, can anyone suggest a  1300 point list? I'll be playing along side a Skaven Pestilens army. 

    I was thinking something like this: 

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    Allegiance: Idoneth Deepkin -

    Enclave: Dhom-Hain

    LEADERS Akhelian King (230) - General - Command Trait: Born From Agony - Bladed Polearm - Artefact: Cloud of Midnight - Mount Trait: Voidchill Darkness

    UNITS

    2 x Akhelian Allopexes (220) - Razorshell Harpoon

    3 x Akhelian Ishlaen Guard (140)

    3 x Akhelian Ishlaen Guard (140)

    10 x Namarti Thralls (120)

    BEHEMOTHS

    Akhelian Leviadon (340) - Mount Trait: Ancient

    BATTALIONS Akhelian Corps (100)

    TOTAL: 1290/2000 WOUNDS: 73

    I'm taking born from agony to help against mortal wounds.

    AoS 2 - Idoneth Deepkin Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by LordRhulak

    Hi. I have a question regarding the Fuethan ability ‘Fiercest of creatures’. It says that you can re-roll wound rolls of one for mounts, but there isn’t a mount section in the description on any of the warscrolls. I was assuming that the warscrolls were old so it didn’t have the mount section, but now with the Leviadon and Allopexes, I’m not sure. So what can we re-roll?

    Thanks

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by LordRhulak

    Thanks! I think I like the first list more. As you said, bigger range for +1 attacks from the warthmongers and more punch. I have a couple of questions.

    Do you think that the command trait outweighs the negatives of having no slaughter host?

    Also, when mortal wounds are applied, do you get to roll the Chaos Warriors Runeshield and then the Warshrine 6+ aura or can you only do one?

    AoS 2 - Fyreslayers Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by LordRhulak

    Thanks! I think I might go for an easier list to play. I was thinking maybe Vostarg?

    I found this list on the honest wargamer website. What does everyone think?

    I think it looks really fun to play but screening might be a problem with no fight first.

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    Auric Runefather on Magmadroth (270)

    - General- Command Trait: Fiery Endurance- Artefact: Vosaxe- Magmadroth Trait: Coal-heart Ancient

    Auric Runesmiter on Magmadroth (250)

    - Forge Key- Artefact: Droth-helm- Magmadroth Trait: Ash-horn Ancient- Prayer: Gilded Claws

    Auric Runesmiter on Magmadroth (250)

    - Forge Key- Prayer: Searing Heat

    Auric Runemaster (120)

    - Prayer: Prayer of Ash

    Battlesmith (140)

    20 x Hearthguard Berzerkers (400)

    - Broadaxes

    10 x Hearthguard Berzerkers (240)

    - Broadaxes

    10 x Vulkite Berzerkers (140)

    - Handaxes & Slingshields

    Lords of the Lodge (150)

    Runic Fyrewall (40)

    Total: 2000 / 2000

    Extra Command Points: 1

    Allies: 0 / 400

    Wounds: 133

     

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by LordRhulak

    Yeah, he’d be quite a good hero to have. What do you think I should swap him for though? 

    Also, what do you use for screening? It seems like the bloodreavers fall short and it would be a shame to waste the damage output of the Marauders on screening. 

     

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

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    Hi,

    So another guy has joined our gaming group and he is going to play Tzeentch.

    (Guess where this is going)

    So of course, I’m worried about the shooting. Would the tactics vs this list be roughly the same as vs Skaven? (Ie units that dont need heroes to function well. Thanks Salyx)

    Roark’s list looks really good so I’ll try it as soon as possible. Should help a lot against that stupid, cowardly shooting...

    AoS 2 - Fyreslayers Discussion

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    Hearing that, I think I might try a list more friendly for beginners first!

    Are there any other lodges that Auric Hearthguard would be better in? (I love the models too much 😅)

    Would this work as a list?

    Allegiance: Fyreslayers
    - Lodge: Lofnir
    LEADERS
    Auric Runefather on Magmadroth (270)
    - General
    - Command Trait: Explosive Charge
    - Artefact: Igneous Battle-throne
    - Magmadroth Trait: Coal-heart Ancient
    Auric Runesmiter on Magmadroth (250)
    - Runic Iron
    - Artefact: Ash-cloud Rune
    - Magmadroth Trait: Ash-horn Ancient
    Auric Runeson on Magmadroth (230)
    - Ancestral War-axe
    - Artefact: Obsidian Glowhelm
    - Magmadroth Trait: Flame-scale Youngblood
    UNITS
    10 x Auric Hearthguard (240)
    5 x Auric Hearthguard (120)
    5 x Auric Hearthguard (120)
    10 x Vulkite Berzerkers (140)
    - War-Picks & Slingshields
    10 x Vulkite Berzerkers (140)
    - War-Picks & Slingshields
    10 x Vulkite Berzerkers (140)
    - Handaxes & Slingshields
    BATTALIONS
    Forge Brethren (160)
    Warrior Kinband (140)

    Runic Fyrewall (40)

    I tried to get low drops using the battalions and I felt that I had to include a screen, hence the Vulkites. 

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by LordRhulak
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    Gorebeast Chariots fill a rather specific role, one which I think we could do better with the units in the Khorne book. I think Chaos Chariots would be a better option thanks to the extra speed. 

    That being said, Gorebeast Chariots do have the advantage of doing mortal wounds per model not units, so you can gather them into a big unit and pile buffs on them that way.

    For casual play, they are a really fun choice, but if your looking for an ultra-competitive list, then there are other, better options

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    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

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    For the Flayed command trait in Wrath of the Everchosen, it says you can re-roll prayer rolls of one for priest wholly within 8” of the general. Is this in addition to the re-roll from the skull altar, and if not, what’s the point of the command trait when we have the re-roll? 

    Thanks

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

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    On 10/21/2020 at 10:08 PM, Troll.exe said:

    For the FEC matchup, the perfect counter is a tyrants list with 3-4 bloodthirsters. Skarbrand BoIR and BoUF are probably the best combination for a 3 thirster list.

    The key is BoUFs command ability “Rejoice in the slaughter”. 

    You can completely negate the “fights at the start of the combat phase” by using this.

    Instead of charging the terrorgiest as normal, you run all of your daemon up to within 3 1/2” to 6” making sure they’re within 16” of the BoUF. At the start of the combat phase you use the command ability. The terrorgiest can’t attack at the start of the combat phase because they’re not in combat. Then use the 6” pile in and attack with Skarbrand or BoIR. If you’re worried that a single attack won’t take it out you can pile in a unit of flesh hounds first. This will force him to target them with the terrorgiest as nothing else is in combat, then pile in your bloodthirsters at your leisure and take it out.

    You can take a crimson crown with the BoUF which works quiet well since you’ll be using that CA consistently throughout the game.

    If you’re using this method you won’t really gain any benefit from tyrants of blood but it’ll keep drops down and probably come in handy once things start to break up a bit as the game progresses.

    Thanks for your help. 

    Although I don’t run daemons much right now, I am looking to in the future so this is really helpful for when I come up against the Flesh Eaters. 

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    AoS 2 - Fyreslayers Discussion

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    Hi, 

    I’m considering starting Fyreslayers but from what I’ve read, they seem quite boring to paint and play with all of the models looking the same and such small unit options. Is this true?

    If it is, is there any chance of new models that might make the faction a bit more diverse? 

     

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

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    Thank you so much for your amazing response! 

    I’ll double up on Wrathmongers and get Skarr Bloodwrath then. I also think a Skullgrinder might be in order for the Bloodforged. Wrathmongers attacking twice on death sound rather nice!

    The idea of using Mighty Skullcrushers had never occurred to me for Skaven. I love the models so its great to now have an excuse to get some!

    Just one question, you mentioned all out defence, I haven’t seen that ability in the battle tome, where can it be found?

     

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

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    Hi
    I’ve been collecting for a while but have a terrible win rate on the  battlefield. Could you give me some advice on a mortal list that I could use against Flesh Eaters (Terrorgheists in Gristlegore), Orruk Waclans (Big Waagh list with Ironjawz and Bonesplitterz) and Skaven (Pestilens priest focus with Grey Seers and Warp Lightning Cannons)?
    The Skaven just kill my heroes with Warp Lightning Cannons before I can get into combat, then turn my most powerful unit against me using the redmaw plague. The Orruk Waclans use Boarboyz with double move to bypass the Daemon Prince’s aura and then charge me using loads of 2+ hit and wound 2 damage attacks that I can’t survive (the screen has been shot by this point) and with their mighty destroyers I can’t reach them before they reach me. And with the Flesh Eaters I just can’t kill the Terrorgheist because it just kills anything it wants at the start of the combat phase before I can even attack. 
    It just feels like mortal Khorne can’t compare to these armies. I can’t wait for you to prove me wrong!

    For Mortals heroes I have:
    Aspiring Deathbringer
    Exalted Deathbringer
    Blood Sectrator
    2 Slaughterpriests
    Chaos Lord on Karkadrak
    Chaos Lord on Manticore
    Valkia the Bloody
    Daemon Prince (I know he isn’t mortal but he’s Slaves to Darkness to that's fine)
    Bloodstroker 
     

    And for units: 
    10 Bloodwarriors
    20 Bloodreavers
    2x5 Skullreapers
    5 Wrathmongers
    1 Khorgorath
    2x5 Chaos Knights
    20 Chaos Warriors
    1 Chaos Chariot
     

    I also have quite a few daemons for summoning and Skarbrand. No standard Thirsters though. 
    I don’t mind having to get more models and the group that I play with are quite relaxed about proxies so the list doesn’t have to be using only the stuff listed.

    Hystarion, your list has already helped me loads and  it is really encouraging to see a mortal list to so well agianst such powerful armies so thank you!

    Thanks for your help!
     

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