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Of course they need to produce new things, that's why I'm sure Kislev and Cathay will happen in the future of TOW : they will be complete entire new releases that aren't just old miniatures repackaging.
Vampires are nice and all, but they're clearly not on the top of their list to do (and anyway, Von Carsteins don't exist at the time of TOW setting, so vampire counts are completely irrelevant in themselves
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And yeah, TOW is really making "3D printing goes brrr", with lots of patreon creators rubbing their hands together with a huge smile on their lips. Can't blame them, a lot of them do a really great job on their models.Though I'm not really sure their impact is so big, I mean it's obvious you don't play with 3D printed armies at official GW events - unless you really want to troll the organizers and want to know if they'll dare to kick you out when they discover what you've done on purpose.
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Optimism is the door to disappointment.
GW does plan for a loooong time ahead, even more with projects that aren't AoS or 40k. They don't change that easily, because their release calendar isn't just for one game : it's for all of them, and if something comes earlier than planned it's always at the cost of another (see the mess with Epic's unexpected delay). TOW may look like it's on hype right now online (like Horus Heresy when it was first released, or Blood Bowl, or Necromunda, or Aeronautica Imperialis...), but that doesn't mean it will stay that way a year later. See the situation now with Horus Heresy...it's not so hot.
Add to that external problems that may happen in a nearest future like, say, a huge climate disaster in Europe or a war between Ukraine and Russia going out of their borders or Israel doing something even more stupid than they're already doing and provoking WW3, and everything goes down the gutter. GW already has serious troubles with their products being constantly out of stock / delayed / being delivered way later than before, and it's going to be lasting in the future as well because of what happens in the world that will certainly not be better.
That's why it's better to keep your expectations low, so that you're not disappointed by your unreasonnable beliefs and leave the game in a fit of self-inflicted frustration.
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I think the role of hero on daemonic mount is more as a "solo missile" to deal with war machines, solo leaders or small units rather than leading a unit himself (chaos steed does the trick for that purpose). There are items that allow it to have a 2+ save but I don't think it's really necessary : the purpose is to give different targets to your opponent so that he can't shut them down all.
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2 hours ago, Skreech Verminking said:
I mean the fact that they updated the legacy pdfs does hint that they seem to be starting to include them at some point.
It means they corrected a couple of typos with player feedback, that's all.
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1 hour ago, Skreech Verminking said:
I mean maybe not retcon it but I could see them doing a 360 turn towards the war against the maggot king event
I doubt it, because the Throne of Decay events involve heavily the Chaos Dwarves. It's more than just releasing a few Chaos resin miniatures, it also means you release the full Chaos Dwarves army as well.
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About drilled...having done that in battle, it doesn't take that much of a time to remove them from their tray and put them in the new formation. When you have to move them again, I usually pivot and move a single central miniature before aligning the rest around it in its final position, matching the same formation.
What really limits it is the room it takes on the battlefield and close proximity of other units. That's why I'm still not sold on the 8 miniatures front, it's already quite big. 7 is sometimes unwieldy as well. -
Just now, Ejecutor said:
In terms of minis I don't think a recton is needed, They can release a mini without having to have a lore explanation. Especially if they are old minis.
All of the units have a small lore explanation next to their profiles at the very least. GW will definitely write something about it.
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1 minute ago, Beliman said:
Unless they retcon the whole Karl Franz era: The Great War against chaos will be the nu'End Times!! BOOM
They can also release old metal Karl Franz on griffin and call it "generic empire general".
Though for the Empire, I'm honestly expecting them to release the old engineer chariot and maybe the famous "boat on wheels". They'd be quite fitting in a artillery Army of Infamy. -
No, but they can retcon other things to release corresponding miniatures. They'll already do it with the Goblin Hewer, since it was mentionned in the preview it will come back with the dwarven hold release. It was originally made during the Storm of Chaos events, meaning much later than The Old World setting. They'll certainly write something like it's actually older and used by Karak Kadrin armies for centuries or whatever.
Some may argue some things like the Steam Tanks were already put way sooner than they should have been.
While the Throne of Decay "rumor" linking it with TWW3 dlc sales is honestly stupid, I can totally see GW releasing some of their miniatures back in line like Bile Trolls, Skin Wolves, Plague Toads and Plague Ogres for the future Chaos release and its arcane journal. Though so far, they seem pretty tame with FW releases...they're more focused on releasing old GW / Citadel miniatures. I'm expecting an old Chaos Citadel unit as regiment of renown, personnally... -
It should work. They also released the old metal giant miniature, which is also much smaller than the plastic giant. It's really a question of what you like best.
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3 hours ago, Asbestress said:
Having watched the video, I'm pretty confident Cathay could be coming, although I might be a bit biased
I don't need to watch any Valrak video to know Cathay will be coming. I mean, the team already said so in previous interviews and it's litterally present in the core rulebook's background. Just like Kislev. It's just a matter of time, and that's why these "rumors" he talks about are basically making a prophecy about rain coming in the future (if you don't tell the day, you will always be right 100%). He has no one working at GW as a trusted source about that. You don't need one : you just need to read what already exist, watch previous official info on Internet and make extrapolation of what already exists in Total War Warhammer 3 (GW worked with CA on the units, y'know, of course they would use some for the miniature wargame).
To show you how easy it is, here is one rumor from my "trusted source" : Kislev will have an Army of Infamy allowing to take 0-1 unit of Tzar Guard as core choice. Watch for this and look how much I will be right about it in the future.
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He has been wrong several times in the past. As far as I'm concerned, his "trusted sources" are none working at GW and it's basically guys on the internet using their brain and logic to predict what GW could release in the future. These "Old World rumors" really look like they were taken from a Total War Warhammer channel, honestly.
Enjoy his videos, sure, but never believe what he says - it's just entertainment. It's not because he's "right" a few times that he actually has reliable sources. People working at GW have better things to do than risking their job for a youtuber's need for views.-
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9 hours ago, JerekKruger said:
What are people's thoughts on the Darkoath box? Good Marauder and Spawn proxies or no? Does the Chieftain in horse have use as anything (he is somewhat lacking in armor to be wearing Chaos Armour, but he looks good)?
Marauders are cool, but they really overdid it with the dynamic poses IMHO. Even with 25mm bases, some of their models will align / look a bit awkwardly in close order formation. Cavalry should be easier with 30x60 mm. Spawn looks quite big, not sure he'll fit on a 50mm square base. Otherwise, I'm actually thinking he would look great as a Daemon Prince.
The hero, you can play it as aspiring champion IMHO. If you convert him a bit (like adding a helm, some mutation that look more "armory"), he would easily count as wearing heavy armor. Maybe not equip it too "armory" in terms of list options like the other warriors of chaos in your army, so that it doesn't get too confusing. -
Kislev will be released first before Cathay, anyway. People should stop using Valrak as "serious sources". The guy is a youtuber, he does it for views and doesn't care if what he says is fake or not.
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7 hours ago, JerekKruger said:
I get the feeling we'll be expected to do some conversion/kit bashing, at least in the short term. We'll see though.
That's litterally what GW tells us to do with units in Armies of Infamy from Arcane Journals in the corresponding notes - suggesting using some kits as base and paint it differently / take parts from kits from other armies.
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If it's just to say that units seen in Total War Warhammer 3 will be in the future TOW army list, that's not a rumor nor a leak : it's basic logic with no risk involved.
Besides, your previous rumors are obvious fake. Tying success of Total War Warhammer 3 dlc sales to what GW will decide to release ? Yeah, right. If they didn't do it before with Total War Warhammer 1, they have no reason to do it now. GW doesn't care at all about sales of video games dlc : only Creative Assembly does. -
5 hours ago, Gotz said:
Interesting that night goblins are old 6th ed ones in boxes of 40.
I'm guessing when it gets the turn of chaos warriors, it will be old ones in boxes of 20.
Be ready to get all the old Chaos kits, for they are all coming back. Yes, even the forsaken.
Basically, if a unit can be found in AoS and TOW, it will automatically be the old Battle kit, never the new AoS one. That's pretty much their stance on TOW so far.-
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6 hours ago, Lord Krungharr said:
Guess I'm just not eager to paint all the Night Goblins. I might be painting a bunches of Skaven, and I know I'll be painting bunches of Chaos Dwarfs
Main problem of common goblins is that they're impetuous - it can be a problem for the mounted units because they have a wider charge range so they're more prone to be forced to charge something they don't want to (especially if you have one of your precious mages in the unit). There is no black orc in the Troll Horde list, so means to neutralize that are restricted (mainly one of the new magic items), be careful about that.
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It's barbarian time ! Conan, what is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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Today old grudges were settled !
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Spider Riders are "common goblins", that's why they're included in the Troll Horde list.
Reason why people suggest to take a mounted shaman is to keep up with the trolls. They can move fast with the spell that gives them +2 Move, and the whole point of this list is to send a wave of stupid monsters right in the enemy front line as fast as possible.
Night goblins definitely can hang with trolls, just in the "generic list". Don't forget you can take a Troll Horde as allies.
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1 hour ago, Ejecutor said:
I wouldn't say infeasible, just less profitable. If you have to produce and stock products for a year and a half in order to make a better launch and you don't do it just speaks about how low faith you have in the product. Wouldn't surprise me that they updated the scope of the project considering that.
It has nothing to do to be "less profitable". Reason why you don't launch all 10 core factions on the same day is really a production and logistic question.
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28 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:
All this info is great, but it is from WHFB, right? Our Chorfs are not the WHFB Chorfs. Ours are Chorfs that turned into Chaos during the Age of Chaos, in the same way that Darkoaths started to worship Chaos, isn't it? So they could be 100% different (unlikely, I know. We have bits of AoS lore pointing to slavery and all that).
Horns of Hashut's Warcry background already give enough info to be practically sure that Chaos Duardins in AoS are very similar to what they were in the Old World.
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32 minutes ago, Trokair said:
In terms of players, localy at least I know several people are intrested, but we are all still building our arimes or waiting for stuff to come back into stock or be released.
I can see it beeing a while yet before most of us have an army to play regularly with.
Completely fair. Here at my club, we're still playing 1000 points armies so that we can already play gradually while learning the rules properly. One new player tested with the Tomb King starter box.
Still...I see many similarities with Horus Heresy's launch : at first, there's hype because well it's new and veterans are delighted to see their old game coming back with a few rule tinkering. And then interest is lost gradually as releases are spaced out more and more - and the main issues of such old game systems are cruelly shown in the difficulty to recruit true new blood on long term. Bigger difference with Horus Heresy though is that GW released a lot more of new plastic miniatures, so there was that. They just didn't content themselves with re-releasing old plastic kits and a couple of FW resin kits.
Reason why Warhammer Fantasy Battle had such a hard time in that field compared to 40k and was mostly composed of veteran players is not due just to GW's "lack of releases" over the years or fantasy being less popular than SF. It was also the rules, and The Old World is really not making things simpler on that matter.
TBH, I'm not optimist on how the game will perform on long term.
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Homebrew: Vampire Counts Arcane Journel (prep work)
in Warhammer: The Old World
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Vampire Pirates have no real ties with vampire counts, though. They do their own thing.
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Remember armies of infamies do allow to take mercenaries. Dark elf corsairs are much better in that category than "allies" (is there really such a thing when you're a pirate, anyway ?