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I'm hoping that today's Rumour Engine will be Sons related.
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29 minutes ago, novakai said:
i think a way to improve Spiderfang would just be there own Alligance rules like how they did with Warclans
where you have Moonclan, Spiderfang, and Gloomspite rules all in one book
also I think the pillar from the Rumor engines is the weapon Warstomper is holding up
I love that what we originally thought to be a Gut Plate is actually a Belt Buckle. These guys are going to be huge.
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29 minutes ago, PlasticCraic said:
Mate I'm absolutely rapt for you. I know from chatting on this forum over the last year or two how much Giants mean to you.
I'm super excited too; but I know they really are your "thing".
I honestly can't believe it's happening. Hats off to them hey.
I'm so happy to have found this community that is so helpful and empowering of our dreams for this hobby. I too have wanted Giants for over 20 years and seeing that I'm not alone is so welcoming. I'm so happy for us all.
37 minutes ago, Souleater said:Now I find myself wondering...
...if we get a really big giant kit, might it be tall and lanky...more like an Aeldari Wraithknight than the big but quite stocky Imperial Knight?
I would absolutely love if they were that size, or at least the King Brodd/Leader model.
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1 minute ago, michu said:
Never. The clue is in the name "Krakeneater". He ate them all.
I never knew I wanted a water themed Gargant untill the Kraken Eater was revealed and now he is the one I'm most excited to see!!
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1 hour ago, Skabnoze said:
I think most kits will be more than dual-kits. I expect that we will probably see roughly 3-5 new box kits and most of those will probably build at least 3 distinct unit types. I don't think GW is going to repeat the issue they have with the Fyreslayers where the army does not have enough variety in the model silhouettes and so the whole thing blends together visually on the table. I always found that to be a big shame as individually the Fyreslayer models all look terrific - but once you get a bunch on the table it is quite difficult to really tell what is what aside from adding visual distinction using paint-schemes. Even their Magmadroth models do not have enough pose variety and blend together (even though the kit has 2 different heads). Night Haunt also has a similar issue and really could have benefitted from alternating the size of the models in units a bit.
From what I have seen GW seems to pay more attention to the visual variety and silhouettes of the units in armies now. I think they are well aware of the issue with the armies that lack visual variety and I expect they will make a concerted effort not to repeat that with this army. This army stands to be quite unique, and potentially very impressive, visually on the table as it will be comprised of a smaller number of big huge goons stomping about the table. One of the simplest ways to solve that would be to vary the size of the giants, which a lot of people are currently asking for, and I think we will see probably 3 basic sizes. I think we will see the core base troops as the smallest and the same size as the current Aleguzzler (including that kit if they intend to keep it). Those guys come on 90mm ovals - although I would not be surprised to see them rebased onto roughly a 60mm circle. I also think these will be able to form units. From there I expect that we will see the next size as about an 1-1.5 inches taller and standing on an 80mm base. This will probably be elite models and also be roughly the size for most of the hero choices. And the final size I expect will be very big and possibly the same size or larger than the Bonegrinder. This will most likely be double as a huge monster and probably also include a hero version in addition to some sort of special named character leader. I expect this kit will be on at least a 120mm oval base or possibly a 160mm if it is really big.
If all of the gargant models in this army end up the same size (aside from including the Forgeworld Bonegrinder) then I feel that the army will begin to blend together. Varying the size is such an easy and obvious thing to do that I am sure GW has already done so.
I agree on the posting of the Gargants. I absolutely love the Aleguzzler kit but it is very monopose so having an army with very few models, they would each need to be quite unique.
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1 hour ago, Baron Klatz said:
God-king willing people's theories on that giant vertical ram/spiked pillar tease being a new King Brodd model will be true for a fifth confirmation since none of the gargant concepts had it.
"That could also be King Brodd himself, the leader of the Sons of Behemat warscroll battalion. He's known for using a big granite pillar as a weapon."
100% agree mate.
9 minutes ago, JackStreicher said:Well Idoneth have Kraken crests, now there‘s a Kraken Eater Giant.
WHEN will Idoneth finally get a Kraken!? 😭I really hope that Idoneth get more Monsters soon. Kraken, Giant Crabs, Whale Transports.
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2 hours ago, CDM said:
A ranged unit would be an opportunity missed imo. Doesn't need to be boulder throwing could be giant slingshots or huge javelin! .
Cant think really how they could make varied play styles within the fashion itself . Let alone overall
A Ballistae sized bow for an Archer would be a good Rannged/Siege option.
1 hour ago, Neverchosen said:Between the name Warstomper and the Ale-Guzzler's Stuff ’Em In Me Bag rule. I think it would be interesting if this army had various rules about killing specific targets within units and disrupting unit cohesion. I doubt that would be their sole play-style but I do think it would be specific and different. I have a feeling that the idea of fleeing villagers will not be a proper unit. If they get rules as some suggested I think they would be more like a bloat toad. An additional model that will have added effects but is built into the points cost of the giant itself. Maybe they will have a negative impact on the enemies leadership as they run in terror from the giants...
Also will the Sons have any form of magic/magical support?I'm hoping for a Shaman.
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Well we currently have 4 Confirmed Gargant types; Kraken Eater, Warstomper, Gate Breaker and the Aleguzzler.
At the end of the Sons of Behemat teaser we saw what could potentially be a 4th new Gargant type.
I believe this could be a dual kit much like the Dankhold Troggoth/Troggboss. I think that this kit will have the option of being built as King Brodd, a leader or as another larger Gargant. This larger Gargant could even be a replacement for the Forgeworld Bonegrinder Gargant.
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Well we currently have 4 Confirmed Gargant types; Kraken Eater, Warstomper, Gate Breaker and the Aleguzzler.
At the end of the Sons of Behemat teaser we saw what could potentially be a 4th new Gargant type.
I believe this could be a dual kit much like the Dankhold Troggoth/Troggboss. I think that this kit will have the option of being built as King Brodd, a leader or as another larger Gargant. This larger Gargant could even be a replacement for the Forgeworld Bonegrinder Gargant.
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51 minutes ago, Baron Klatz said:
I could see it, I mentioned before on the adepticon thread of all the different gargants, titans, jotunn, gigantic monsters and spirits of God-beasts mentioned in the Mortal Realms lore. If they wanted they could include everything from fiery armored titans from Aqshy's steppe khanate to gargants in Chamon that wrangled sky krakens into servitude like the mercenary chaos gargant menagerie does for a mix of sizes.
However I could see this being just a handful of models as well. A 2.0 version of the Beastclaw Raiders as another easy to get into Destruction faction with a few massive models to have fun with as crush your enemy and stomp on objectives. Easy and fun to play but hard to master while also allowing a ton of Destruction forces as allies or new armies to naturally build into and keep the hobby and gameplay fresh.
In the end I'm just happy Age of Sigmar has another unique faction to it's already amazing roster and our King Brodd is doing cartwheels for it.
That's what I'm hoping for with the chamber hint. Seems too early for something like Ruination Chamber so it's likely new heroes bolting in. Hopefully for Beastgrave or even Warcry(maybe alongside the recent teaser for Ossiarchs too since they're invading Eight-points? ).
Thanks again mate, I'm practically a gymnast these days from all the flips and tricks!!
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18 hours ago, Souleater said:
Giants should, by definition, be the biggest darn things in the game!
IMO.
And why shouldn't AoS have models as large as those available in 40K!
Also, when are we getting more Knight-Incantors? There are way more Primaris Lieutenants! 😜
I agree, I hope the Gargants are absolutely massive. I can see Heroes and Gods such as Archaon being larger than them obviously, but they should tower over all the other races and monsters. I hope they look well down upon Ghorgons and Cygors.
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7 hours ago, christophe said:
Any idea for a army terrain ? A stone table (dolmen style) with some food (Johan, a cow...) on top could be fun.
King Brodd wields a Stone Column that was once a part of the Behemetian temple that was destroyed by the Beasts of Chaos, more rubble could work as a Terrain piece.
5 hours ago, Skabnoze said:That announcement was everything I was hoping for with Sons of Behemat. It confirmed the army is all about gargants, the army is entirely composed of gargants, the army is for destruction, and the pictures showed that the model aesthetic is going to be an evolution to the current & older Giant models rather than some sort of civilized giants or something. I am thrilled.
Back in the days of 4th & 5th ed Warhammer the Giant was purchased out of regiment points for the army (when army construction involved point-percentages) and so aside from the requirement to field a hero as a general you could play a whole army of giants. So if you wanted to you could field an army of 9 giants for 1800 points and then stick a hero like a Goblin shaman as your general. It was not generally a good army - but it was oh so much fun to play.
I decided early on in Age of Sigmar that I really like how this game handles big stompy monsters and the one type of army that I want, but have not yet found, is an army of all big stompy monsters. There are a few out there that you can play such as Ogors, Flesh Eaters, and now Seraphon - but none of those all-monster options really appealed to me that much. The Seraphon all-monster army came close since it is all dinosaurs - but it was just not quite what I would want. But an army of all Giants (my all time favorite big Warhammer Monster) - sign me up for that!
Everything about this army is now a day-1 purchase for me.
I've wanted to field an all Giant army ever since I first laid eyes on the Marauder Giant over 20 years ago. This has been my dream army ever since then and for it to become a legitimate Faction is a dream come true and I cannot wait for them.
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2 hours ago, TheadTheOgorSlayer said:
Look at that! I knew I remember it being a rule!
its one of those rules that doesn’t come up often so a lot of people forget it, I knew it was the case with FEC (I have a small collection of ghouls) thanks for confirming it’s a rule across all armies, but perhaps one that is most important to the up and coming gargant strike force!
on another note, I wonder why they didn’t show us the HQ choices. I was surprised the king himself wasn’t shown first! (Wasn’t teclis one of the first elves seen in the lumineth release?)
I think they're saving King Brodd for later on, as the 3 Gargant types may be the only releases besides the King, it would make sense to have the centrepiece (centrepiece in an army of centrepieces) model shown last.
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58 minutes ago, Souleater said:
Giants should, by definition, be the biggest darn things in the game!
IMO.
And why shouldn't AoS have models as large as those available in 40K!
Also, when are we getting more Knight-Incantors? There are way more Primaris Lieutenants! 😜
I hope they're bloody huge. Bonegrinder size.
7 minutes ago, Elbaf said:The Kraken-eater look like the famous painting "Saturn eating his son" !
While the Gatebreaker look like that Giant's picture from Black Library back then
And the Warstomper ... he look like the troll from Harry Potter isn't he? 😆
I can't wait for this army, maybe there is another one, more heavier with armor ( rumor engine giant pillar and shield-thing)
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Saturn eating his Son is the perfect comparison. I think the Shield and Pillar rumour engines are going to be part of King Brodds kit.
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8 minutes ago, Aryann said:
I just hope giants are bigger than Treelords. Don't expect Imperial Knight size but their name needs to have a reason.
I hope they're tall enough to stare Archaon in the eyes.
4 minutes ago, novakai said:imperial knight are pretty huge, I would think Sons of Behemat would be around the greater daemon size or slightly bigger
I think theyll be the height of the Imperial Knights but not the same size.
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1 hour ago, Souleater said:
Not sure quite how to take this form one of the GW FB replies. I guess they mean they aren't as skinny as the Aleguzzlers (that does seems to match the teaser art) but with less of an 80's Power Shoulders vibe than an IK?
Still hoping they are near that height. While the teaser raised a smile, I am disappointed that we didn't get a silhouette comparison to an Aleguzzler.
Interesting. I wonder if in height they are the same but in general size are smaller.
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14 minutes ago, novakai said:
you can see each Gargant up close on the background during their intro page thought they are really faded.
pretty sure people with photoshop skills could enhance the image for a better view
I absolutely love the fairy tale style designs. Cannot wait to see the actual models as they will be monstrous.
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Just now, TheR00zle said:
We’ve all had that one army man, no need to thank us.
Sorry but thank you I must, there has been so much support on here as opposed to other platforms where I have expressed my excitement for the Sons. My dream army of over 20 years is finally coming true and everyone has been so supportive of my excitement. So thank you as well mate.
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9 minutes ago, BrocknerTheBear said:
In all seriousness though this army is right up there now on my list of projects. It will be amazing to see everyones giant forces as I'm sure we've all got crazy conversions planned already.
I cannot wait, my dream army of over 20 years is finally a reality.
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1 minute ago, Vasshpit said:
i think all those large skulls we've been seeing on recent bases of other armies is probably a pretty good indication of size then. So yeah, much bigger.
100% agree. As soon as the Bone Mortisan was released standing on that Skull I had an inkling it would be a Gargants. And since then we've had many more, obviously leading to the Sons.
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1 hour ago, christophe said:
Allies ? I hope not, a giant should be in a other category than a troll or an ogre...
I was expecting some bulkier giants, but it make sense they kept the previous design. And it indeed has a very welcome non grimdark fairy tale touch.
Would you put your money on 3 kits or 1 multi build for the 3 giants in the pictures ?
I absolutely love the Fairy tale aesthetic that the Sons and Gloomspite have going on.
I'm not sure about the kits myself, I'm hoping that they're 3 individual kits which can be posed in a variety of ways as opposed to a Single monopose kit.
39 minutes ago, sandlemad said:Looks like this release is going to have a powerful Roald Dahl BFG energy - Childchewer, Gizzardgulper, Fleshlumpeater, that sort of thing - and I’m here for it.
Its perfect isnt it.
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35 minutes ago, Public Universal Duardin said:
I personally think these will be much larger than the current Aleguzzler. It will probably act as a cheaper battleline choice for the army (although they need to have the Behemoth limit removed, or somehow lose it for Aleguzzlers). Maybe the three Gargants seem in the teaser are either heroes or specialised units!
They may just be Specialised Units!! And the kit allows for Standard Gargant builds as well.
9 minutes ago, Vasshpit said:Oh cool! Didn't notice that was a boat.
Three new and bigger kits would be great pertaining to my Trogg Hag plans as the current Gargant is a bit smaller than the Forgeworld Hag.
Excellent idea.
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11 minutes ago, Adamcbutton said:
I cannot wait for a Sons of Behemat Underworlds warband.
Me either. I think itll be a single Gargant with some Human allies. First Destructive Mortal Tribesman?
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7 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said:
The names do look to align with the concept art.
Kraken-eater is holding part of a boat in his hand, with other maritime objects on him (anchors, etc). There's also crew still on the boat in the art, which if the model ends up being heavily based off it will be the Humans referred to presumably.
The Stomper is wielding a weapon in each hand, appears to be more heavily armoured/geared than the others including a metal bowl helmet.
The Gatebreaker has the topknot, the... well, gate covering his groin and a single club, probably resembles the old plastic kit the most.
From what was said on stream, it sounds like Aleguzzler will remain it's own thing, probably to fluff the unit numbers out a bit?
I'd say the Aleguzzler and Bonegrinder will help push the model count up. With the Aleguzzler still able to be taken as an ally for other armies.
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The Rumour Thread
in Age of Sigmar Discussions
Posted · Edited by KingBrodd
Given what the text says on the article, this is definitely Sons of Behemat!!
Now it doesnt look like skin texture and the tops are at an odd angle, so it's either a weapon OR it could be Scenery, a piece of the Behemetian temple?