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I'm impressed that it's all new models. That definitely looks like the kind of small game they'd repackage old models for, though it sound like they'll also be a Blackstone Fortress expansion, so it's a preemptive repackage? Plastic servitor though, so that's cool.

The odd numbers in the Soul Wars is not surprise. GW has a history of starter sets that don't always work. The Battle of Pelenor Fields box for MESBG has one hero per side and way more troops for either to command. Of course they usually have some sort of special mission or rules to play with just the box set and the idea is that you'll buy lots more. The undersized units in ETB form of existing units isn't too out of place. I think those are less about adding units to the game, but instead of trying to recapture that old feeling of when you could walk into a hobby shop and pick up a blister with a couple of models for few bucks and get started small. If you're going to get a kid started in the hobby with their weekly allowance, you're going to have a lot easier time starting with a couple of models for $15 than a starter set for $40, $80, or $160, or $90+ for the Start Collecting boxes. Of course if kids are walking into non-GW owned shops, they've got a bigger uphill battle when their 3 or 4 models for $15 dollars is up against 2 D&D models for $3.99 that are primed and ready to paint. But I guess I'm rambling now. I still don't see how the Dreadblade Harrows fits here either, but unless there's some skirmish game that is or was coming that they were heroes or a unit in.

I really do like the Sequitors in that box. I bought them at launch to even out the weird number of Sequitors in Soul Wars, but if they got the model count right in SW, I probably would have still bought that set for the unit champ. She's probably one of my favorite Stormcast models.

I wonder if this what they were designed for but due to development schedules this got pushed back, so they got an AoS release first(If they ended up here first I could see them getting AoS rules anyway like any other warband). On that note, I'm really curious as to what the Dreadblade Harrows were originally designed as, I just don't buy that they were designed for what they're being used for.

The question about Greenskinz was asked on the AoS Facebook page a couple weeks ago and it was confirmed that they were discontinued and it's likely the case for Gitmob grots too. So no, almost certainly not a hint of new Greenskinz tome. For destruction we'll probably see at least Ironjaws with a new tome with a chance for Bonesplitterz and Beastclaw(if they do updates at the rate they did 40k 8th codexes, then chances are good) , and probably a new tome for the rest of the Ogors.

Some how a new user confirming a 4chan originated rumor makes me believe it even less.

Yeah there's a few things that don't quite add up in that post, so I'm not expecting a true AoS skirmish game anytime soon.

The teaser definitely make it feel more like an arena style game closer to Underworlds to me more than a Kill Team like game. Who knows, Warcry could just be GW's latest "boardgame" that repackages old models with a few extra cardboard baubles and then it disappears 9-12 months later never to be seen again.

I really want to believe, but not going to get my hopes up too much. While other than MESBG, GW seems to be allergic to too much crunch in their games these days, but Kill Team isn't terrible in that regard, so even if it isn't Mordheim reborn, I hope there's a bit more going on than in typical AoS and by extension Skirmish(I really like lighter rules for large games like 2k of AoS, but they get old fast in small games) and I'd really love to see actually paying for equipment coming back.I can see the argument for flat costs in larger games, but when you've got a small squad of guys every little advantage counts. I'd be fine if the options for troops are limited as they are in KT as long as we get a satisfying and complete skirmish ruleset out of it. I'm afraid that any AoS treatment of a skirmish game might stick with the flat to hit/to wound, which again I don't mind in large games, but I don't think scales down as well. I'm just hoping that since Underworlds exists as an "intro" level game, maybe they'll allow a slightly more advanced game in the Mortal realms. As somebody who loves fantasy but also a little crunch in their games, I'm sad that AoS has gotten the begginer tag for the most part from GW, though now I do have MESBG as an outlet, I'm less a fan of the less fantastical and movie based models in that game(really wish that was a book license with GW having a little more creative license). Of course all that matters only if this is real. If this is real, and interesting tidbit is the Exiles and Highborn name for old elves. Could we see the Dark and High elves resplit, but grouped into their own factions? I'm not sure if that's one of the more interesting tidbits of this rumor or one of the things that make it seem less likely.

Now that Khorne is getting endless spells, I would be pretty surprised if KO didn't get something, probably some take on aetherstorms or some sort of lasting aethereffects. Somekind of aether lightning storm that causes mortal wounds in one of the normal endless spell ways. Some kind of aethercloud barrier and then maybe some kind of aether vortexes that slow down movement, with perhaps a chance to cause mortal wounds. I could also see something that shutsdown or at least harms spellcasting too. Fyreslayers will probably get some too in the form of some kind of "endless runes". I'm not overly enthused about the idea, but GW has shown that they endless spells are basically part of new faction updates and that they're going to do it with non-magic armies too.

Wrath and Rapture was promoted and then released. It'll keep selling for a few months and then go away like all of GW's other box sets. It probably won't see much more in the way of promotion.

That reminds me, I've got a squad of Chaos Space marines I need to assemble and paint before they're obsoleted, or else I'll never do it.

He, along with all the other Silver Tower heroes were definitely sold stand alone before. Not sure why GW pull them when they pulled Silvertower since I'm pretty sure the stand alone heroes were packaged as purely AoS. I guess the Elves made sense because they didn't really belong to a faction, but the rest actually made some good heroes for other factions.

There's currently zero evidence it'll be AoS Kill Team. Just from the teaser, a better guess would probably be some kind of arena type game. People are hoping it'll be Kill Team, but there's not much to support that. At this point I'm not going to get my hopes up. I'm getting into a Mordheim campaign at my local shop, so I'll probably be disappointed by whatever GW puts out anyway if they ever do properly approach skirmish in the Mortal Realms.

That'd be nice, but to do it, wouldn't they basically have to redo part of the sprue separately, and if they're going to do that, why no repackage it by itself for $25?

That is odd, same thing on the US side ($40 and $47). According to miniature market, they price was $40. Maybe a price hike but they forgot to take down the old one?

Huh, with the clan rats being the only model going no longer available (aside from metal duplicates of other available models), I assumed they were going to be the only rebox with round bases, especially after the lack of rebasing with Beasts of Chaos and Gloomspite, but d@mn, they redid the whole Skaven army, even the old metal and resin ones. Maybe the rumor I heard was right and they actually are going to start packing everything with rounds. One interesting thing I noticed is that for things that have been webstore only and are staying that way(i.e. not technically reboxed), they say they come with round and square bases. So it sounds more like GW is finally doing the right thing™ and just sending round bases with things they're already shipping directly anyway instead of trying to double dip by selling models with square bases and then selling the proper round bases for extra, Hopefully we see that more widely across the web store soon.

I don't think there's much danger of Fyreslayers getting combined with Dispossed. A whole slayer army has been a long time coming(with it's own book, I think you could run all slayers at various times in WHFB) and I don't think they're going to undo it now.

The problem with Death rattle getting their own book, is that they're pretty central to Legions of Nagash, where as you can take Nighthaunt and Soulblight, and you've still got a funtioning army. I think we'll see Death rethought(LoN definitly feels like a stop gap) that's more that a new LoN tome. I'd love to see Soulblight go its own way with new vampire stuff(maybe neferata and manfred go here too), deadwalkers move to FEC with zombie the peasant bowmen to the ghouls men at arms(probably zero percent chance of happening), and then death rattle, deathmages and deathlords end up in an army with Arkhan in command, with Nagash being in that book, but has keywords for all the death factions(like Archaon with the all the Chaos marks).

There were some 40k fans who were disappointed that GW was shoving out two books at a time with little fan fare, but I'd be glad to have that treatment for AoS just to get caught up.

But I've.... uh..... got a totally legit source saying a Tomb Kings vs Brettonia box set is coming this year. But the same source also said it won't matter because it's due for release right after the aliens come back and take us to heaven on their comet space ship.

*Offer not valid for Stormcast Eternals.

Everything thing that came out between Maggotkin and 2nd edition(i.e. with the updated logo and white spine) were designed for second edition, so it's probably safe to say none of them are getting updates anytime soon. They said that updates were to get up to date with the new edition and all those books already are. At most there may be more subfactions fall out of LoN(i.e. Soulblight).

I'm hoping that new battletomes for every GA excludes ones already announced or released. They say brand new armies are coming, and I'd have to guess at least one of those will be wholly new since they have done at least one brand new army every year, but a new army could also be a new army drawn partially of wholly from old models(could be ogres, reworked StD+Everchosen, or even Slaanesh under a new name like Nurgle got). Also classic armies updated for the new edition could be "classic" 1st ed armies updated, or could speak to actual classic armies like elves, dwarfs or ogres. Let assume they aren't counting known pending tomes, there's still a ton of armies that need some help. Order has several that could use and update and still a few short on a book at all. Everything in death is covered by a "2nd edition ready" battletome(FEC on the way), so they'd have to be either getting a wholly new concept death army or a sub faction becoming its own thing. Soulblight seems like an obvious choice as it has kind of been its own army before with GHB abilities and as a shoehorned subfaction next to the legions in LoN. Destruction has three books that need an update, but also only really needs one more book to get everyone covered by something. As much as I'd like to see an ogre tome, I wouldn't be surprized to see Ironjawz get some love first. Chaos needs two new books and with the new Khorne book, I think Tzeentch is the only 1st ed book they have, but I think here new books are probably the most likely before Tzeentch. It's probably one of the 1st edition books that holds up best.

Though Warcry says it's something between Underworlds and Kill Team. So if it's and actual skirmish game that not a board game or a super lazy lazy minor change to the base AoS rules, that might be cool. For me it depends on where it lands between Underworlds and Kill Team.