Gistradagis

To have a bit of a break from the discussion, I just wanted to point out that our beautiful prince literally wears his armour like this. Truly a prince of excess. I now want to run him without the lower cape, to show his assets in all their glory while playing.

I'll probably get some games going through proxys/TTS, then consider writing if the units really are as overcosted as they feel on a first read.

Keepers do have a change. Their CA doesn't work on themselves, now it's "1 other unit."

Yeah. Unless this is broken and I've missed some crazy combo, I'd expect very slight point decreases for stuff like Symbaresh (and perhaps Myrmidon) on Summer.

Yep, he's a mortal. No Daemon tag. And I agree, yes. I'm a bit sad he doesn't have any real synergies, battalions or especial rules in the army, but at 260 he might just be good enough to take as a random beatstick.

Do have in mind, Sigvald doesn't have Locus.

It's probably cuz some of the units are costed weirdly. Archers might be a bit expensive, having no MWs or debuffs. Symbaresh being 170 for 5 and Myrmidons 150 for 5 is also kinda odd.

It appears almost everything has been leaked. The only thing I don't see anywhere is the cost for the battalions...

Sigdaddy at 260 is very nice, even if I'm still hoping for some sort of synergy in the army. Symbaresh and Myrmidesh are battleline if a Lord of Pain is your general, as we already knew.

If Sigvald is within 12", you show him his beautiful reflection and he heals D3 wounds.

I mean a rule regarding attacking certain types of units, apart from that one. It makes no sense to say they are good against heroes and monsters, when it's exactly the opposite with no rend X)

Perhaps they have a special rule. Cuz the article explicitly says you don't want them vs hordes, but rather for heroes and monsters lol.

Symbaresh have a cool, fluffy rule, but no rend really surprises me here.

Well, Glutos looks great, and his CA is absolutely nuts with Archaon lol.

Yeah, it's a bit... odd. He does have the whole horns and such, but apparently he's not part daemon or anything. So no Locus for him.

Mortal wounds on 6s to wound, btw.

I agree, which is why I'm surprised he doesn't get Locus, which is a self-serving ability (it's now 1" only, and stops pile-in, meaning it's for the benefit on the hero who charged mostly, avoiding being surrounded) and would have fit Sigvald so well. To be fair, while I get not doing many Skragrott-like characters where you want a named character to be general (since that makes command traits useless), I'm hoping that at least we get a battalion for Sigvald + mortal units (like Myrmidons) where he gives them some sort of buff or benefit for following him into battle (or a buff for himself!). Mostly cuz my only gripe will be Sigvald being expensive in points and hard to argue including in a list if he does basically nothing for you other than being a beatstick.

Man, I was waiting for the leaks to decide, and I'm definitely doing Slaanesh with Sigdaddy, hopefully with mortals if they don't suck. Although it's a pity that Sigvald is not a daemon, so the sort of thematic leader of the faction doesn't have access to the Locus of Diversion, somehow.

Sigvald will be amazing as long as he doesn't get hit with some ridiculous points cost. With the new Locus and his FnP, he's gonna be difficult to bring down, all while dishing out a respectable amount of damage.

Where?¿?¿ Edit: In our (legal) hearts.

My only real gripe is that I wanted to know the rules and such to have a bit of time to speculate and consider what to get. With the delays and all, I'd prefer to pre-order stuff when it comes up to be efficient, which will be more difficult if GW unloads everything at the last minute. Perhaps contentious, but my getting into the faction fully and playing it really hinges on Sigvald being good. Not broken, not mediocre. Good enough that a list with him commanding Hedonites mortals (or a mix with daemons) has enough strength and ceiling to play both casual and tourneys.

Ofc. Just pointing out the irony that their announcement before the week was to tell us to look forward to a week sneak peaks at the new battletome, which most of us probably thought meant new stuff. I mean, they do have enough new stuff to showcase it at their leisure before the weekend, so it surprises me for it to be Wednesday and have seen almost nothing.

What an amazing week of warscroll releases and rules sneak peaks. It's only Wednesday and I feel like I already know all that I need!

Would make sense. Blightkings are battleline and used (practically) exclusively in Maggotkin mortal lists. If they are aiming for smth similar, I'd expect the Symbaresh/Myrmidesh to be battleline too, in order for mortal lists to work.

1. Because it creates an oppressive playstyle consisting of denying the opponent the option to play with no real way (this is key) of countering or defending against it. There's a big difference between a shooting playstyle being viable and being overwhelming with little to no risk. 2. It's not. That's a ridiculous idea. 3. It's not small heroes, but any hero. Small heroes are simply used as an example because they actually have a protection in theory (Look Out Sir), which has become practically meaningless in the face of armies who either just fish for easy MWs or pump so many shots a -1 to hit does nothing. It's an outdated rule that does not cover the current state of the meta, where shooting offers a lot of value at little risk. Shooting needs to be nerfed, not made unviable or garbage. It's not a coincidence that most of the current top armies pump out so much shooting, because the present core rules allow for this playstyle to get a lot of free value while offering little to no defence or counterplay to other armies. 40k, having a ton of both shooting and fighting, has made efforts in 9th to make sure that neither is too overwhelming, through scenery and rules. AoS does not have that currently, and it's mainly because we're using core rules that haven't kept up with the release of armies and changing meta.