[The Rumour Thread]

Oh my gosh, the Darkoath look absolutely amazing!!! I want them so bad, but no, I must stay strong for Hashut...neither my wallet nor the Great Grey Pile of Shame can take another project I start and don't finish lmao

[AoS armies theme songs !]

Surprised nobody went with the obvious for Skaven.

As for fighting Sons of Behemat, playing something from Attack on Titan will guaranteed give you better rolls.

[The Rumour Thread]

1 hour ago, MitGas said:

PLAY TEKKEN 8* OR FINAL FANTASY 7 REBIRTH AND WONDER HOW TIME FLIES.

 

* and the only char to play is obviously Yoshimitsu

I took the day off for Rebirth, definitely go and play it if you like jrpgs even remotely

Also, I won't tolerate the lack of Lili love, she's been my main since Tekken 6 😤

[The Rumour Thread]

1 minute ago, MitGas said:

😂 You've got my vote for post of the day. Not that it matters but hey, it's at least something. 

Thank you, my terrific teal-coloured tufted titmouse of a Tzeentchian tub-thumper (causing me to tinker with a thesaurus!), despite all the self-deprecation that would cause an average British comic to blush, I really appreciate you saying that!

Just now, Ejecutor said:

They cannot delay it that much if we know they are coming during 4th ed, otherwise the would start delaying the 5th ed 😅

Trust me, I wouldn't put that past them. The day I hold Chorfs in my own hands, then I will believe lol

[The Rumour Thread]

5 minutes ago, Pizzaprez said:

Are we too cocky? Refreshing the rumor thread once a day to dig around for a single mention of anything that was mentioned in the same breath as Chorfs? Are we too cocky when I can now climb onto the roof of my home and scream that Chaos Dwarfs During 4th Are Now 100% Confirmed? 

Are we crazy? No, it is the Rumour thread that is wrong.

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(this totally confirms Chorfs)

Every time we write this, Games Workshop delays Chorfs for another day (Chorfs confirmed!)

[The Rumour Thread]

1 minute ago, MitGas said:

Let's hope the Chorf memery won't turn into a memory though.

I'm so clever Tzeentch just threw a cookie at me. 👌

I have been cursed by a vile spell from the Realms - bound upon these forums, at the mere mention of Chorfs, I am forced to draw a new image in MS paint and post it here to lukewarm response. The balance of this forum would be in jeopardy otherwise - now, no matter the rumours, no faction's fans will get the upper hand in the rumour thread. 

[The Rumour Thread]

All Chorf memery aside (OK, I'll admit, I really wanted to post my newest Chorf creation that I literally made a few minutes ago because I am in desperate need for validation in form of forum reactions), I am very happy for all the ratboys, ratgirls and non-binary giant rats because hey, you deserve this. For too long has Skaven players been the most oppressed minority in this hobby (they got old sculpts)

[The Rumour Thread]

7 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said:

ChorfBros... we got too cocky...

 

And will we still try to claim that this totally confirms Chorfs? I think y'all know the answer to that already;

[Warhammer - The Old World]

It's a real shame that they confirmed Kislev years ago only to now reveal that they aren't coming - whether it's about scaling back production mid-development (and considering that Brets and TK are still missing models, something weird is definitely going on behind the scenes) or if the increasing rumours of internal rivalry between different teams are true, it's still disappointing.

Feels like GW was taken by surprise by interest in TOW and are now caught with their proverbial pants down.

[Warhammer - The Old World]

So, we know what retro models GW is bringing out from the mothballs for Orcs and Goblins. What is on your wishlist regarding the other factions? Any old sculpts you'd like to see as MTO?

[Warhammer - The Old World]

16 hours ago, Sception said:

forgive the blurry low res picture, snagged this from a corner of a page shown in the white dwarf preview.  I just wanted to say that I didn't realize until now how much I missed battle reports with pictures that looked like this - they're just so much more legible than top-down pictures of loose models or clusters of circles.

Oooh, the nostalgia hits hard!

There's just something in that style - and rank-and-flank in general - that gives my brain those sweet sweet serotonin.

[Basic unit redesigns; unlikely or inevitable?]

Definitely yes...eventually. In the relative short term, I'd personally put my money on a total Skaven refresh first. The rest, well, surely they'll be refreshed one day, but it could be years (or in worst case, decades, considering how old some Skaven sculpts currently are) until that.

[Warhammer - The Old World]

I only now realised that Rogue Idols won't be brought back and can't be included in an Orcs and Goblins army. Feels bad man 😔

 

[The Chaos Duardin Unbased Speculation Discussion]

22 minutes ago, Pizzaprez said:

Omg 10/10 meme, I think the stone bit will stay around tbh and you're right that it's unique/symbolic of the CD's/fun, but I think I actually dislike the notion that channeling magic is so unnatural for a dwarf/duardin that they calcify. I do like the idea that Chaos Duardin have consequences like spawndom, but I don't really like when fantasy games give strict parameters for what a race can and can't do: often times fantasy races are inspired by real life human cultures to some degree, and I'd be equally put off by the notion that Goblins or Orruks are simply incapable of building complex machinery.

I think I always interpreted the dwarfen use of runes as "channeling magic is for wimps (we're not good at it 😶) and it's way better/efficient/dwarflike to hammer power into runes." The Chaos Dwarf calcification could be anything else instead! I just am sort of against the idea that "X race simply can't do a thing" in a fantasy setting. Might be my own personal hangups, but I usually interpret "X can't do a thing" as "X traditionally doesn't excel at this thing by default, has decided it isnt for them." Leaves some grey area, and I always like the grey areas! I think I also disliked the "legend" that dwarfs were first carved from stone just being proven 100% true in the Chaos Dwarfs, and that dwarfs use runs because they cannot channel magic.

Duardin not casting spells in favor of runecrafting as a cultural preference is something I can totally get behind. Duardin could even still consider it "unnatural" because it isn't the "Duardin way" of doing things! I'd just rather it not be that their race simply can't do it, especially as the Mortal Realms are magical as hell. I don't think a slight retcon there is awful! Especially as we have the Root Kings who are Duardin primarily interested in plantshaping!

I also tend to love Chaos Dwarfs as a "capitalism is evil" faction: their lack of environmental care, their disregard for the lives of those working in their nation, their hyperfixation on weapons of horrific war (that are fueled by torture) their rampant selfish consumerism/consumption, their complete willingness to annihilate other cultures and enslave their people are all some of the worst things that nations in real life do, and it's one of the things I like most about them! They're literally mustache-twirling nightmare colonist/capitalists, and I think you're right that their way of life should have consequences for them! 

I'd hedge my bets on them still turning to stone or something, ngl! I wonder if the reasoning behind it will change at all, or if we're going to also get some lore about early-realms Duardin and how Grungi shaped them from stone! I just hope they don't circle back to "duardin literally can't/shouldn't cast spells bc they'll die:" I'd be fine if they just felt like the gift of runecrafting the ancestor gods taught them was better

I want to start by commending you for making a really good argument, it really was a lightbulb moment for me as I too tend to dislike notions that X are incapable of doing Y - when I GM'd RuneQuest I heavily modified the Broo, allowing players to play such as Good-aligned characters (fun fact: The Beastmen from Fantasy are the Broo with serial numbers filed off, GW made some miniatures for tabletop rpgs - including RuneQuest - before Warhammer) among other things.

We're pretty much on the same page in how we perceive the Chaos Dwarfs/Duardin, in this instance I was too set in wanting GW to keep the bit of lore as a shorthand for the self-destructive nature of Chorfs' hypercapitalism. But I wouldn't want it to exist in the expense of narrative freedom.

[The Chaos Duardin Unbased Speculation Discussion]

3 hours ago, Pizzaprez said:

I'm with you there; I sort of hope that, because the mortal realms are so full of magic, that Chaos Dwarf sorcerers can lose the "ah! I'm a rock now!" thing and they can mutate a bit more.

I personally belong to the Turnastone school of thought, and the reason is twofold. Not only is it a great bit of lore showing how unnatural their dabbling with magic is to a dwarf, but it also makes them look way more unhinged (or, well, cool, but with chaos in general 'being unhinged' is tied to your coolness level). Like, these guys are so corrupted with lust of power that they are essentially killing themselves in the process. There's both a certain dark hilarity to it, and a quite somber undercurrent too. Makes me think of that viral comic about destroying the planet but making shareholders richer. That reminds me...

[The Rumour Thread]

9 minutes ago, Gutsu17 said:

They are upgraded rat gores, the thing in the stoy is a  "walking, gun-studded coffin of green-tinged metal" that has a rattling gun

Well, technically you could paint any armour green-tinged and at a glance, those look like rattling guns... 😜

I'm being sassy of course, really hope it's a tease for something new for Skaven, knowing how happy it'll make @Skreech Verminking

[Warhammer - The Old World]

46 minutes ago, JackStreicher said:

 I am ready

Gorgeous army! Really happy to see Legacy (or as some TOW communities hsce started calling them, Renegade) factions get some love and get action in TOW!!!

[Warhammer - The Old World]

8 hours ago, Bolfrig Bearhide said:

Hello friends, I am here to beseech you for wisdom. 
 

A friend of mine wants to run some goblin wolf chariots but isn’t keen on the models so has been brainstorming using Thunderwolf cavalry with some goblins riding on top. Apart from the snarlfang riders, does anyone have any suggestions for where to get these goblins?

If your friend can wait, we should eventually see a release of Goblin Wolf Rider mob. Otherwise, sadly it's either Snarlfang or some Night Goblin sculpts from Gloomspite Gitz.

[The Chaos Duardin Unbased Speculation Discussion]

1 minute ago, Pizzaprez said:

I'm really hoping they have the CD "archetypes" morphed into AoS equivalents: somewhere between Lumineth and Cities in the vein of "remix" Old World armies! Outside of Tauruses, Lammasus, sorcerers, and hats I'm pretty open to whatever new ideas they come up with! If they drop Bull Centaurs as a concept entirely I'll be crestfallen, though: they're a staple of the faction identity imo

I feel like Cities is looking good as a "not-empire" army and lumineth is shaping up nicely as "not-helves:" Chaos Duardin aren't competing against their Old World counterpart visually like some other factions, which leaves the door wide open for whatever they feel like doing! I'm already trying to set aside some money for a couple Hellcannons: looks like they may make a comeback! If it gets the same resin remaster treatment the bretonnia siege weapon got im way past in

At least lorewise, from what we know, they retain their 'industrialism gone too far' aspect. I know Nurgle already is the canonical foil to Sylvaneth, but I almost want Chaos Duardin to take that spot. Preservation of nature vs the total exploitation of nature, the proverbial Saruman tearing down Fangorn forest to get more fuel for the furnaces.

[The Chaos Duardin Unbased Speculation Discussion]

I don't think we'll see 1:1 any old units return, rather seeing a remixed version of them. And honestly, no matter the unit composition (although I hope they include a demon-possessed train as a centerpiece, for those trolley problems we all face) I'll be OK with it

However, if they lack big hats, I'll riot.

[Warhammer - The Old World]

2 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:

People are speculating about those three and Norsca, because they have all have fluff sections. IMO, if we see one of those factions in a few years, the other ones are probably possible, as well.

In that case I'll start to manifest DoW, and if it'll work I'll change my name to Public Universal Dog of War.

Own a crossbow for home defense, as that's what the Senate intended. Four ratmen break into my mansion. "What the Borgio?!", as I grab my bottla of wine and Mama's crossbow. Blow an fist-sized bolt in the first rat, he's dead on the spot. Draw my black-powder pistol but miss because I haven't had my fiesta, and nail Gossippa Lotta next door. I have to resort to Leonardo's Magnificent Steama di Tanka mounted atop the stairs. "Ey, stupido!", the cannon obliterates two ratmen in the blast, the sound and squeaks alert the mercenaries. Grab a pike and charge the last terrified chap. He bleeds out waiting for the Paymaster to arrive (I worked overtime), because getting impaled on a pike is impossible to stitch up. Just as the Senate intended.

[Warhammer - The Old World]

I've yet to receive my rulebooks (sold out at my local flgs) but I've heard there's a lore section for Southern Realms - considering there's one for Kislev and Cathay, and they were mentioned getting models years ago, eventually, does that mean Dogs of War have a chance?

[The Rumour Thread]

3 minutes ago, BarakUrbaz said:

GW Dwarfs should never have goat cavalry, because everyone who is deep into Dawi lore knows what Krutting is. 

That's a real deep cut, I had to pull out W̶a̶r̶h̶a̶m̶m̶e̶r̶ ̶w̶i̶k̶i̶a̶  my Khazalid dictionary for that one

+1 for the joke, wish I could laugh react twice

[The Rumour Thread]

If we'll ever get Grungni's Duardin, it'll be like the Lumineth were for High Elves - making sense why Dispossessed/old Dawi kits are in TOW (ie, they'll get phased out from AoS). I'm personally fine with that, keep AoS weird and wild. I also foresee Chorfs being wildly different than we remember them, but I personally hope they'll still retain the big hats! I could never live knowing Lumineth would have mightier hats than my beloved Chorfs 😭

[Warhammer - The Old World]

46 minutes ago, The Red King said:

God I hope frenzy isn't as bad as people say considering my list is all bullgor/doombull/ghorgon and I'm a khorne player who will absolutely mark my beastmen up as soon as I'm allowed since they're all already painted red and brass.

Khorned and Gorepilled