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3 hours ago, broche said:
My personnal choice would be Weirnob, 30 arrowboys, 5 boarboys, 5 maniack. But your list is good as well
Speaking of moarboys. Whould they be better then stikkas in this case. The spears give more attacks from the front for a 10*2 block and that is nice. But the moarboys get more attacks when ther eare les then 15 left. And considering The points only allow for a unit of 20 Might be that the moarboys are better when the take caualties
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On 10/30/2019 at 1:37 AM, broche said:
At 750 pts, definitly go bonesplitters. You get a lot of cost-efficient units, and great mobility. at 750 you'll struggle having enough model with Ironjawz to have a good army
I was thinking this
1 Maniak wierdnob shaman
20 boys whit stikaks
20 boys whit arrows
5 moarboy boarboyz.
is about 100 wounds whitch seems good for 750. And it gets 30 units.
No tribe so i can make the maniak wierdnob cast an extra spellen and give him +1 to cast. So he can fully support a unit every turn.
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I am looking at going to my first tournament. It´s just 750 points. I was wondering what would be better to take bonesplitters or ironjaws.
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19 minutes ago, FPC said:
Well that’s perfectly fine to argue but without backup I’m pretty hesitant to believe this anonymous source. “Rush job” 100% implies that they didn’t spend appropriate time on so thanks for the clarity. But, at the same time....did these books really need a full development cycle? In my mind a “full cycle” means a start-to-finish army build. Why would they entirely redesign armies from the ground up if they don’t need it? And if we’re still talking lack of “newness” with Ogors that’s wrong bc they are getting terrain.
Regardless at this point I’m not even sure what your argument is. You’ve admitted that Cities isn’t bad, and I’d argue it’s good. I don’t know enough about Orks to comment, and so far I think Ogors look pretty solid. I don’t deny that the goal of several recent books is to meet demand from players who have been waiting and to solidify these armies. This is true of more than Destruction factions - Cities, BoC, Skaven, Slaanesh even. But...again, there is new stuff in Mawtribes, so...idk...seems like they put time into development.
There is no point other then. They did not do a full (re)design cycle and that is why there isn't all that much new stuff. But in hindsight that might be true for a lot of the latest realeses .(well not slaanesh clearly) but might be for Flesh eater corst for instance. My "friend" just mentioned these 3 books. But i didn't ask about otheres. (didn't think of it really) They did spend a lot of time on the new death faction according to him tough. Claims it to be a tightly designed army. (something I learned to translate to overpowered in my mind)
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On 10/25/2019 at 2:20 PM, FPC said:
I be happy to see evidence that these were rushed but I haven’t heard that straight from GW. Again, lack of “newness” doesn’t mean they were rushed. Several factions received nothing but endless spells and maybe a hero. There is a similar window between Mawtribes announcement and release and they’re getting a new model.
And either way, like others said, if the results were good, why does development time matter? GW have spent years developing SCE and they’ve ranged from top-tier competitive to their current state (1-2 solid builds, lots of junk, everything in between). Time of development isn’t always a good indicator of quality as far as GW is concerned.
Also wasn’t one of the first studio interviews with one of the Cities devs who basically said this project had been his masterpiece, and maybe even that it had been a long time coming? Heck there have been rumors of an Empire revive since at least early 2019.
While I would like to give you evidence. I am pretty sure my acquaintance would become pretty irritated whit me if i did. Since naming him would probebly lead to him getting a bit of flak from GW But maybe I should be more specific in what I mean. When I say rush job i don't mean they did a bad job or spend less time on it then needed. It's just that these books where seen as a necessity(since the old ones wher so outdated) and did not go trough a full design cycle. They where made to get destruction a bit more modern. And to meet the demand for a more "grounded army) Both where issues raised during the design cylce of the moonclan Grots. It's nothing more or nothing less then an explanation for the lack of new things in these books.
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11 hours ago, FPC said:
Agreed. Cities has a lot to be positive about, doesn’t appear outwardly broken but has some good power/synergy. All of the Cities save for maybe 1 or 2 are decent if not strong. The wide ranging option allows most (sorry high elves) people with old WHFB armies that made the change over to keep playing. Only a few units seem patently weak (or, really, just over-costed). A lot of thought clearly went into each city’s abilities, spells, etc. I can’t really speak to Orruks bc I know almost nothing about them.
Just because the results are godo doesn't mean it wasn't a rush job. All 3 of these books have been sort of shoved into the scedual. I think the Orruk book and the city book are both great. But they did not go trough a full studio design cycle. (hench the lack of newness)
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38 minutes ago, FPC said:
Maybe they haven’t been as profitable as they hoped and they’re moving away. Cities also didn’t get them. I guess it could be any number of reasons since OBR are getting them...
That's not it. The orc book the ogor book and the citiies book, where more or less minimal effort rush jobs to get the armies playable again. Specialy for the orc and cities book. The studie basicly did not do a full design cause they where rushed to do it. Bone reapers how ever are a fully designed army.
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I was wondering about something.
If I understand the rules right.
I could use the hiddenpaths to drop this
20 free guild crosbowmen x2
1 free guild general
1 celestial hurricarum
on someones flank
And then unleash 80 2+2+ shots in their side. (for on cp of course)
Seems powerfull for 720p
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40 minutes ago, Aelfric said:
The Spear of the hunt says that the bearer fights at the start of the combat phase if they charged in the same turn. So, if a hero with the spear and, say, some WWR both charged, the hero fights at the start of the combat phase and then we go into alternate activation and I pick my WWR to fight. Therefore, unless my opponent has a unit that fights first, both my units fight before my opponent picks a unit to fight.
Logically this sounds right, but would like a second opinion.
Yea that is how it works. If it is your turn. You can get the hero to fight before everything else and then pick a unit like normal
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5 minutes ago, overtninja said:
I'd bring maybe 2 units of 20 and another of 10, I think, and bring a NP with them, and a beast caster to give them +2 charge, which would get the unit you want into combat on a 5+ roll. Without it it's a 7, which is still pretty good. As someone who also owns 10 Wild Riders, I'd bring them in for the fun too, and maybe use the beast caster on them, because I really want them charging in for -2r/2dmg attacks.
It could work, is what I'm saying - and if you alpha'd with them, you could charge up the field with some speedy boys on the other side, and sandwich your opponent before they got going anywhere.
From my perspective it´s just that the rangers are just bad for thier points. Paying for the detachment is a even bigger sink . So it´s kind of putting me on the back foot. Sure a great charge could do a lot. But you can die it whit so manny other and better units.
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1 hour ago, Aelfric said:
It is definitely strong, but tempered by the scarcity of Command Points. Unlike other cities, we do not have any artefacts, spells or abilities to generate them. We have to make do with Adjutant, Battalion and buying one. I have looked at the Battalion, but it's not for me. I do like the flexibility of the army, though.
I think the batelion is hot garbage. The unit in it arn´t all that great and the buff isn´t that great either. But i gues it will see some love from old woodelf players
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7 minutes ago, Zappgrot said:
A stardrake?
O wait that is not a real shooting attack so ;-(
But the ability can be usefull even if you don't charge. For insance a unit of 5 darkriders standing sideways can block of a lot of the board. Sometimes stopping a big thread from moving is all you need. Just use the command ability to move the darkriders in front of the unit and stall it. Reducing those two keepers of secrets to m3 and then killing the darkriders is sure to ****** of the slaanesh player
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11 minutes ago, Namelessone81 said:
I believe that too
but I don’t know what could be our best options for the shoot and melt away ability of our army . What units should we place for the maximum utility of our command ability ?
I am thinking a 30 units of sisters of the watch firing and then moving away and maybe Durthu for a killer charge but I don’t know what to think else for both a shooting attack and the a killer charge .
A stardrake?
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I am wondering am i the only one who thinks the living city is going to be one hell of a army to fight? Between hidden path, shadow warriors and tree revenants. A living city army can just deploy or redeploy in reaction to the enemies battle plan. That seems verry powerfull. More so since a lot of cities of sigmar units get bonuses if they don't move. And placement is not movement.
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Hello.
My name is Koen
I live in the Netherlands near Eindhoven .
I have been playing warhammer for over 22 years now.
As of late I have finally been able to put myself over my hatred for AOS (salty ex fantasy player)
And started playing the game . And I must say whitout my old bias I am likeing AOS a lot.
In fact the number of armies I own has exploded
I play
Gloom spite
Khorne
Flesh eaters
and
Cities of sigmar.
(also I do all the hoby work for my sons stormcast)
I joined so i could read up on the tactics
Ossiarch Bonereapers, hideously overpowered?
in Age of Sigmar Discussions
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You do realise that, that is all niece and all but will reduce the number of armies that actualy function by a lot. IF large units are undesiarble because they can't maneuver it's just going to end up whit a all bigg stuff armies again.