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1 hour ago, LuminethMage said:
It's the art of the Warden they use in the article. The close up on the face on the wedge to the article and the full Warden in the article next to the "Who Are They" caption: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/02/10/the-lumineth-lowdown-part-2-spear-phalanxes-and-runic-symbolismgw-homepage-post-2/
Because he has fiery eyes, and a fiery or sun color scheme some of us just called him Zenith Warden.
oohh i thought y'all meant the blue one ha
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5 hours ago, Bozly said:
Just give me a battleline if option and i’ll put em on the table thats all i need
it really doesn't make sense that they aren't battleline with a lord arcanum
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where is that Zenith Warden art from? not seeing anything on community site?
also dang, didn't mean to start spear discourse 😅 I highly doubt they will be one-use weapons as they are constantly mentioned as a Phalanx Unit. But it will be interesting to see how the two weapon profiles differ in both statline and usage.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/02/12/warband-focus-the-new-warbandsgw-homepage-post-3/
so Castigators might be useful somewhere now?? I'm hoping their Warcry card is worth the points...
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Heartbeats before combat is joined, the sunmetal tips of the Wardens’ spears flare into life with the solar energies they have absorbed, tearing through armour, flesh and bone as their Wardens skewer their would-be attackers with thrusts of lethal precision. They are led by High Wardens, imperious Lumineth officers who stand at the rear of each phalanx. Easily identified by their decorative back-banners, the High Wardens direct the warriors under their command and channel the magic of Hysh into their enchanted weapons to the utter ruin of their enemies.
So, combat phase buff like Sequitors + possibly decentralized CP like OBR? Where the unit leader can further buff a unit with their own command.
QuoteTheir armour is bedecked with sun and moon icons, symbolising the twin gods of Hysh, for their warriors are neither Tyrionic nor Teclian exclusively.
I'm sure there will be differing mages to reflect the Lumineth aspects, but I'm wondering if this sentence means the special/elite units are going to be Tyrionic or Teclian specifically, or if each brother also handles different aspects (i.e earth/fire for Tyrion and water/air for Teclis)
QuoteEach of the Auralan Wardens carries a short sword strapped to their backs. Though not designed to be their primary weapons, these blades would be drawn for self-defence should an enemy get inside their reach
Spear attacks on turn they're charged/they charge, then sword otherwise? Or perhaps a secondary unit rule?
QuoteIntegral to this is the Runic Mandala, the Lumineth evolution of the Pantheonic Mandala which once depicted the aelven gods from the world-that-was. In addition to representing an amalgam of the runes of the four Hyshian geomantic spirits, the more elaborate versions incorporate the twin aspects of sun and moon, both separate yet intrinsically linked, just as with the godly twins that embody them.
So any rumors that don't look like Eldar runes or Old World Elf runes are Lumineth, and we can expect the book to have a new alphabet for transcribing this new language!
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2 hours ago, Koradrel of Chrace said:
But at the same time, that was one of the things that killed WHFB. They had pretty much fleshed the setting out as much as they could from a wargames perspective. They wound up just re-releasing new sculpts for models nost of the time. The little bit of new stuff they did come out with felt very forced in the setting. It's the one big thing I like about AOS. They have really thrown the gates open to embrace any weird idea they want to come up with. That's also why I'm excited about the Lumineth. They look to be a fantastic blending of the new and the old.
this is why I quickly got over the End Times being written poorly, once I actually gave AOS a chance. SO much more to be done. The Old World looks like it will be an earlier imperial year than what Total Warhammer and 8th ed are, but it still leave little room for anything new.
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21 hours ago, CaptainBerk said:
Sprues and Brews have another article up looking at all the Lumineth Rumour Engines...didn't realise there was so many. Do you think they are right about Tyrion being hidden in plain sight?
https://spruesandbrews.com/2020/02/06/lumineth-realm-lords-rumour-engine-analysis/
the hair was confirmed as Shadowsun's new model
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I am expecting:
an archer Vanari/Auralan battleline
a chariot, since hawk ones were squatted
sphinx behemoth by itself
elite units for each aspect: wind, water, earth, fire(?) - these might overlap with infantry, cavalry, and siege/behemoth/special units
one hero for each aspect, mixed bag of melee/caster
the hammer rumor mills look like they'd fit into Lumineth... earth aspect elites?
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Both SCE and NH need new books, they have fallen behind as AOS 2.0 has been fleshed out. I think DOK have an older book, but they've been doing quite well through 2.0 from what I've read., while the two armies to most likely bring new people into the game are lukewarm. Not only is that bad for repeat customers, but it's bad to advertise to new ones. I don't think anyone here wants an OP book, and I don't think we expect every single unit to be viable in any build, but I don't think it's asking too much to put what are supposed to be literal demigod soldiers at a level where they feel that way on the tabletop.
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14 hours ago, JPjr said:
Again like the previous one it could just be the angle but they look too thin to be hammers, I'm heading towards them being different tops to staffs for a Lumineth wizard to represent which order/element/whatever we're calling it that they're from?
idk, they make shoulderpads way too big so who's to say they didnt make the hammers smaller
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Yeah the list sounded nonsensical, because of how lacking its support would be. I cannot find any other claim or even a mention of a list like this, and the LVO I saw mentioned had a basic 20 block sequitor list that won not 24 longstrikes... it's probably the most bizarre list I've seen someone tell a new player to go for
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Today I saw a discussion on the subreddit, someone claimed there was a 24x raptor (2x12) Anvilstrike list? I have never seen any of y'all talk about having that many raptors, but they said it was in tournaments..? I can't find anything searching in the megathread but not sure how accurate searches are.
@PJetski have you heard about a list like that?
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On 2/1/2020 at 12:30 AM, Bozly said:
do whatever you want from there.
shootcast relies on aetherwings, which you didn't list
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how can we be compared to SM when our stormbois can't even melee and don't have plot armour smh
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I was able to get some decent variety by moving the heads as well; you have to clip the ETB sequitor heads a bit so they don't stick on the body nob, but I felt like even just having their head a different way helped prevent super clone-y look
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1 hour ago, Still-young said:
I think any that do, are a coincidence. The text is meaningless. The one that was just revealed as the Zoat for example just had this text:
‘Behold the Rumour Engine! Can you predict what it is?’
Or this, from Vorkmortens coffin:’With a crash of thunder and a flash of light, the Rumour Engine sends another image back through the vortex of time! Can you decipher this glimpse of the future?’
Most of them are just vague references to the engine itself or seeing the future.
Now hold on a sec...
"Behold" -> the Zoat is holding a gun
Might not be one word but "With a crash of thunder and a flash of light" is clearly a reference to how coffins are ALWAYS dug up in a thunderstorm
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4 hours ago, AdamR said:
They are just regular multipart raptors. Hurricanes and longstrikes are the same kit.
thank Sigmar then, because I'm sorely tempted to get that box over the Vanguard SC (especially with Lumineth on the way) because it looks like a good Warcry intro.
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If you built this in the Warscroll Builder GW has, you will know if it is a legal army on its own. Did you check the Battletome for the battalion requirements?
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50 minutes ago, TheR00zle said:
the moon looks like obsidian or some other hard (crystal?) material. It's tied to something so we're looking at a pole not a staff.
if you flip it upside down, it looks like some sort of focusing device? The first Lumineth lore talks about how powerful their wizards are so my guess is a support/siege weapon for Lumineth.
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Uhh anyone seen the new preorder box? Why would they do 2 longstrike and 1 hurricane We need confirmation if there's weapon options because it would suck to have these nice Warcry boxes be useless in regular AOS...
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Warcry-Stormcast-Eternals-2020
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7 minutes ago, willange said:
Well they also said that draining the emotions makes them more aloof. So I think you'll see some high-and-mighty shine through.
Arrogance is an emotion though, unless somehow these crystals pick and choose
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On 1/25/2020 at 9:20 AM, Turgol said:
Would be nice if Lumineth had semi slave, at least serfs/vassals, made up by those formerly proud human realms of the wise. Arrogants being slaved by even more arrogant masters would be a cool Warhammer twist.
We'll see if this fits in with lore, but if they're called Realm-Lords without having some kind of auxiliary or cross-species army... wasted potential.
On 1/25/2020 at 6:58 PM, Cèsar de Quart said:There's some talk of "a mix of Greece, Persian and Egyptian themes" in the aesthetics. Show them to be, because all I see is swirly designs clearly inspired by the new 40k Eldar look, and Greek-like crests. There's no Egyptian feel to anything (pyramids and sphynxes are not exclusive to the Egyptians, and one cannot say "a sphynx is Egyptian" unless said Sphynx looks like an Egyptian sphynx. It's like saying every dragon is Chinese, even if it doesn't look like a Chinese dragon).
That said, I don't dislike the general feel and look of the new elves. The basic troops look nice, but I'd rather they didn't have so many swirly bits. They promised pointy elves. For swirly elves, we have the fish elves already.
Not at home so these are quickly found pics, but it's definitely the feeling I get having played way too much Rome 2 and being a fan of that historical time period. Ptolemaic Egypt was a blend of those 3 cultures, and it's not a 1:1 aesthetic but it definitely seems inspired. Sphinx are best known from Egyptian and Greek mythology. Teclis' puffy pants are remniscient of Persian clothing.
The helm frills on the infantry = Greek hoplite plumes:
Ptolemaic Companions, as historical figs:
Successor Kingdom cavalry:
Also related: these Successor Kingdom Greeks (lords of...realms technically) would have been the elite soldiers of these armies. Persian, Greek, Egyptian cultures also had large focuses on knowledge and learning.
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From this post, it doesn't seem like The Arrogance is coming back--they pour their emotions into the aetherquartz. Interested in how their increasing aloofness fits in with Sigmar and the problems Stormcast forging has.
QuoteGreater enlightenment for the Lumineth came through harnessing the unique properties of aetherquartz, the Hyshian realmstone, in specially designed jewellery. They discovered that they could endlessly reflect the power of Hysh within this realmstone to empower the mind, body and soul. This did not come without a cost, for even as it offered illumination, the aetherquartz crystal eventually grew dim, and so drained the emotions of its bearer to restore its inner light. To the Lumineth, who sought perfection in all things, such a sacrifice was well worth paying, for emotion was a path to corruption… to Slaanesh.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/01/27/the-lumineth-lowdown-part-1gw-homepage-post-2/
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Gonna post my thoughts over from Rumours since it'll get lost there:
Teclis is giving off a pseudo-Egyptian theme here, Hysh art has some pyramid type monuments/buildings.
Sphinx are heavily related to Egypt in pop culture.
The spear troops have a Greco-aesthetic, the cavalry do as well (armor at least).
I'm going to guess that the rest of the Lumineth will have a Ptolemaic Egypt aesthetic. Again, hopefully this means that the Realm-Lords will include non-aelven and/or auxiliary troops--as a reflection of how diverse the Ptolemaic Kingdom's armies were.
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Aos 2 - Lumineth Realm-Lords Discussion
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we'll see when the cavalry article comes out probably, I was under the impression that the spears, bows, and cav were all Auralan