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So can someone explain... 1 ) What is the merit of ever running 2 TLA at 300 points each? Their spell as well as their silent communion do not stack.. So why would you? 2) Because of number 1, why the heck didn't they make Lords of the Clan 2-4 Treelords and 1-3 Treelord Ancients, instead of the other way around? All of a sudden that battalion would have actually been decent. Are you guys just forcing it into your lists because you want more artefacts?

Those blood bowl elves do not even look like wood elves... Why tentacles and yellow? And yet GW completely removed the way more recent Poisoned Wind Mortar Weapon Team Warscroll.............

I don't. 40k does. Forge World does. Forge World for Age of Sigmar even does. I'm not saying they should be key to the army or featured in battletomes, but there's no reason to remove the keyword. The most competitive things will always be the things featured in battletomes. Even if it's still competitive: A) GW can balance the points. Again, 40k and FW do it. B) Tournaments can make their own decisions about OOP rules C) The unit can be converted or obtained as a collector's item. Again, tournament decision on how to handle that but no reason for GW to get rid of the rules.

As an aelf fan I unfortunately agree. I just wish that GW would actually clean it up and support them. They don't all have to be stars of the show. They could have made the next Sylvaneth battletome include wanderers. Or they could have made a mega tome like the Skaven. However, Skaven at least had had a battletome beforehand. Unfortunately ALL OG elf owners have gotten almost no support from the beginning and I have no idea why they have left it this long. We'll see if GW finally sees the light.

At that point to accomplish both, it's no longer the game you were wanting to play to begin with.

Unless news has come out since then that dissuaded you from buying it, isn't that just a personal issue? If something is worth buying, something is worth buying. Otherwise we are just letting ourselves get manipulated by rushed advertising schemes...

I don't see how. The minimum size of the awakened wyldwood is about exactly the same as the minimum size of the old wyldwoods. Since the tips of the 3 pieces must always connect to the other tips, it sounds like it will always end up being the exact same shape at minimum size. Would it not?

Well since he can unbind spells and cast his two prayer buffs, I basically considered him equivalent. But you’re definitely correct. He wouldn’t be able to cast anything else than his prayer.

The problem is that swords were already fine and GW kind of ignored Kurnoth Hunters with bows who are pretty weak in most glades.

yes if it's a single unit of 10 dryads for 100 points he would legit just be better off bringing a branchwraith and dividing 1 of the tree rev's into two to cover battleline requirements. Of course I would not recommend that but it would still be better than current list.

This is a little off-topic but I think "matched play"rules have long since become the defacto rules to play Age of Sigmar in general, as it is the only thing that makes it a balanced experience. Competitive play is quite a separate matter to me.

I personally would not bother bringing the single dryad unit unless it has 20+ models. Their only advantage over spite revenants is their defence and their 2-inch attack- both of which you get less out of at small numbers (impenetrable thicket).

If your faction isn't one of the new battletomes, I would totally understand why you feel that way. It seems that GW's response to balance the really strong 2.0 factions is to just keep buffing every faction that gets updated one at a time, though >.<

We’re not allied with any of those factions to use those wizards anymore sadly 😞. Also... Unless they end up changing his warscroll, the dispossessed wizard spell isn’t even compatible with sylvaneth 🙁

That can’t replace any of the fun mages in my heart 😭. RIP all of the different battle mages, starpriests, archmages, loremaster, sorceress, and bless the lost souls of people who made hurricanums

Is there really no way whatsoever to use an order wizard or order unit with a sylvaneth army now, or am I mistaken?? That would be very depressing if they randomly removed that. Toying with quirky mages was a big bit of fun to me.

GW even admitting sylvaneth got delayed- even if they blamed other countries- was the most I’ve ever seen them stop and fully acknowledge something. I wouldn’t be surprised if at this point they’ll keep their mouth shut about the mistaken release just so that share holders won’t worry that they’re incompetent..

doh. I think you're right, my bad.

Can someone explain to me why the Arch-Revenant keeps getting a mentioned as a major alarielle buff when the majority of her damage (her mount) cannot be affected? I thought squirmlings were almost never useless because generally even elite armies would bring at least SOMETHING for objective control. Wouldn't even 10-mans would suffer 5 instant wounds easy? Didn't this kill her niche role on the battlefield? It seems like she does "okay" ranged damage to everyone equally now and just "okay" melee damage. To me that seems a little dull, but I don't really know how I feel about the battletome as a whole yet. Isn't this sort of rock paper scissors in a way again anyway? Terrorgheist can't touch durthu, non-cloak/non-harvest durthu can't beat terror?

Other than the basics like arcane bolt, mystic shield, inspiring presence, etc, giving the same of ANY powerful tool to every arm kills the game one piece at a time, in my opinion. It's unfortunately not just limited to attacking twice since 2.0. We can only hope they'll walk back some of these changes, however I think they are much more likely to just continue buffing each faction.

This would only make sense as GW stated on facebook that you can still use the old wyldwood models for the new book.

Let me interject there- the complaint is that GW is so poor at delivering on basic customer expectations that people who literally preordered the set were told after release they will not be getting even 1 copy. Let alone the regular disappointed people who wait years for a sylvaneth-set only to find out they “sold out” 2 days into pre-order... To be honest, what I find “strange” here is the lengths people bend over backwards to in order to defend, justify and explain away customers getting outright shafted instead of just acknowledging that GW could handle things a lot better than this. That’s all.

The most ironic thing about this is that totally new players to Warhammer would probably have been the least likely people to have been able to even see a copy of this box on the shelf of any store, let alone actually successfully secure a copy.

Interesting. From what I can see here, the woods appear identical. They just added the Citadel Woods LoS rule directly to the warscroll to help clear up confusion. EDIT: Nvm. On the clearer zoomed in photo after this I can see the way damage is dealt at the end of the charge phase is a change!! Yeah FLGSs had their shipment cut back from what they were told by GW they would be able to sell. As you said it seems there were people who preordered through their local store soon after preorders were available only to be told after launch their "preorder" was meaningless. GW has already done the expensive time/ money investment by designing these sets and having manufacturing arrangements made. Now it would just be up to them to get their s*** together as a business to figure out how to meet demand. It's as you said here though: They want to keep the "excitement" and pressure of demand up as high as possible, while lowering their risk as much as possible by purposefully low-balling demand.

The fact you think they’d only do it to prove me wrong, even sarcastically, kind of proves my point 😆