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that's also an option. Okay in the best case we got both. akhelian's as infantery and namarti with blaives, swords and axes. but the weapon options are the most easy to made for GW. 3 Different close combat weapons, bows, and the standard bearer upgrade. maybe there will be also an upgrade for a real champion or warband leader. we will see.

I'm also not sure about the Akehlians. On one side, only the Namarti are not enough options. Namarti have no weapon options, only the standard bearer. so it would be literally 2 options/models for the hole warband. On the other side, eal riders are to much. perfect would be to have the akhelian's on foot. morsarr with spears, ishaen with swords and shield and allopexes rider with crossbow. than the 2 namarti options. you would have 5 options insted. + upgrades to champion, etc. But I don't think we really will got this options, because der are no unrided akhelian Versions in the normal AoS, so Gw "had" to release a ne box if they like to do that. I know build yourself and convert. no problem for me, but GW isn't writing rules without miniatures anymore.

thats true. It would be terrible if GW seeing only the army and not the lists. But I don't think so. Some years ago (special from 2007 up to 2015) I would be in panic now maybe, now they see we need pointfixes with some units. even it's only some little like 20 points for the shark or 40 for the leviadon. tournaments are what they are. but there are also fluff and casual gamers.

The problem with the skinkscreen is, like I said before, that he is playing them nearly perfectly. It’s impossible to get over it. I had to stop my normal movement 3,000000001” before first skinks, the skinks are in minimum 7, normaly 9 inch deep. And every skink had to stay in 1” to the next (unit movement rules). My base are much bigger. So its technically impossible to get directly in the screen (okay you can get in the little bigger spaces between 2 units). behind the screen there a first one bastilladon, than the machine of gods, and than the standard bearer. If you are threw all of them, the slann is the last one. He stands normally in the corner edge, so that he is totally in 9” to every point of the edge. That’s why the scryer isn’t a solution. one way maybe is, to get over the flank edge of the table with one unit of morrsarr and try to jump with the +3 (or better 2,5”) assaultmove, to get with a 11+bonus over the screen, and charge than the machine of the gods in the back. but I can’t get boosts from the king in that turn for them… I give you pictures of his line tomorrow. than you see the problem... oh and 520 dead points are totally wrong. Frist no if you are able to play them the leviadon and the allopexes are not that bad. They are slightly overpriced. the turtle is around 40, and the allopexes around 20 points over… so I waste 80 points he play’s not a bad list, but its not hard competitive or tournament level. And my list works against every other list and army I fought unitl now. even against his list on lower points. Its only the 2k-summoning list of the seraphon I’ve got a problem until now. (and I think mortal wounds lists, are a hard match up, too) The point is, his list is a counter on offensive deepkin in general. You have the same problem even with a nova list. So wow. @errata: oh nice. that chances something. special against flesh eaters. ^^

I'm using a scryer... He shield his troops that good, that he can protect his slann and engine of gods perfectly. Even with scryer. I've got the idear to break his skink shield with troops of thralls and using the opening. Point here is, that he can fill up automaticly with skink units. He give up his 3 slann spells and get his sommon points for that. I only prevent, that he is summoning a carnosaurus in turn 3... My List: King, abyssal Blade, unstoppable fury, general Tidecaster, gryph amulette * artifact2 option1 Soulscryer, "not shoot me artifact" artifact2 option2 3x morrsarr guard 3x ishaen guard 2x1 allopexe 1x thralls 1xreavers 1 Leviadon Akhelian corpse batallion Spellportals I also have an soulrender and will add 1 start collecting box and 10 more reavers. Why no high King? I have one but we play special charakters only if we have them on both sides.

Hi, I playing Deepkin now for arround 2 Month’s with normaly one match per week. Often against lizardmen, stormcasts, night haunts and legions of nagahs. (and this weekend first time ironjaws) It’s going really well. I’ve won more than I lost, and we had a lot of fun. But now I’ve got a question: My buddy plays seraphon/lizardmen with a summoning list around a slan, machine of the gods, skinkspam, ratodaktylus, bastiladon, icon bearer and so on… he is a really good player and shields his slan and the machine perfectly with his skinks. And of course he summon a lot of stuff. In round one and two I had to kill around 40 to 60 skinks and 3 units of the riders, to have the chance to charge him in turn 3 and break him. That’s ****** 6 up to 9 units with 67 to 87 wounds in total… All as MSU and that before I get my boosts with the tides and the attacklines from my commandpoints… with lower points (like 1250 oder 1500) it worked well for me. on that lower points I usaly win in my turn 3 or 4. With more points he has so many more skinks and stuff that it isn’t really working out, anymore. what are you doing against lists and playstyles like that? we play with optimized but no tournament list, and only stuff that would work as army in the background. And on the other point I’m not planning to spend nearly 400€ more into more riders. maximum are 6 morrsarr and 6 ishaen's. And anyone with experience against Ironjawz? @killamike: nice idear. I will steal this for building up a shark for ^^