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The new boxes come out next week, and while I'm only just beginning Warcry, I've caught a few of the old kits and had a question: How many games have you wanted or needed two of something for? I was thinking for the remainder of the armies to buy a new box and trade half of it with someone else (for their army half), but didn't know if I would be missing out on another warband piece.
Thanks!
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I hate Forge World.
Its like watching a football team with an All star Defense but a terrible Offense (sports references over everyone’s heads)
I’d rather just see HH and The Old World stuff in plastic under GW’s umbrella at GW prices and quality.
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On 11/25/2019 at 10:08 AM, passtheKhorneplease said:
I can't wait to find out because I just got the starter and I love the models in there and want some splintered fang and Corvus warbands but I am not going to move on them till I know what are in these new boxes
We should know at least a few days before preorder. If it is just a repack and price hike, you’ll want to order it at a lower price before then.
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Dark Skin Tones:
LtoR: Gore-Grunta Fur, Cygor Brown, Wyldwood.
IMO, Cygor Brown, with Catachan Flesh to cover as a highlight tone has been fantastic. Wyldwood is better for trees and wood.
Apoth White was great for white like on a car, but not as a skin color. Try Seraphim Sepia (yellowish) or Reikland Fleshshade (redfish), followed with something like pallid wych flesh.
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Personally, I find Skirmish to be a tad bland without a lot of heroes or things larger than standard 1 wound troopers. Regular duder making one attack in a turn usually doesn't hit or wound, and then if I'm on the other end, almost never saves. I also prefer to have a lot of objectives/treasure out on the board, or some other neutral/aggressive creatures to contend with. Almost never want to do a 'kill the other team' scenario, as that tends to turn into a series of coin flips to see who wins.
I'm tempted to play with a Wound/Injury Table similar to what Blood Bowl uses. 'Players' get knocked down all the time, but when a knock down happens, a roll is made to see if it penetrates armor, if it does there's a roll to see if it is a Stun/KO/or Casualty. If it is a Casualty, you roll on the Casualty Table and they can take an injury.
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11 minutes ago, JPjr said:
My new totally unfounded dream/hope is not that this is 6/8/10/28/32/whatever stupid scale it is that you all want to argue over and they just dodge all that nonsense and drop a new legacy style version of Mighty Empires instead.
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On 11/19/2019 at 10:44 AM, Moldek said:
Good catch on the possibility that it’s an aos release. I don’t recall exactly how the sprues were arranged but yeah it could be some added grunts, although the kits are very monopose so it wouldn’t be a very exciting buy. They feel a bit tacked on to StD given their design, really not suited for big units...
Most were three sprues half the size of the box, so there's room for more stuff
If there's something warbands need to add, it's another, different Leader model. All the Death, Destruction, and Order armies have multiple different leaders .
I'm also pretty certain that we will hear of what is coming out in the week just before the launch, so be ready to go scoop what you wanted if it's just a price hike.
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I’m not worried about the game, it will probably be rank/flank and have some capability to get AoS Round Base in.
The Fluff is the key.
They could redo The End Times and have plenty of new material, Orcs, Goblins and Ogres were left out. The intro to Nagash had a Bret/Wood Elf/Beasts War that could have updated two of those armies to 8th Ed standards. Sigmar’s Blood was a fantastic little intro book that I really wish I had had someone to play with when it came out.
A redo of The End Times would be a horrible waste of one of, if not the, best fantasy setting ever.
I want to see all of historical events redone in earnest. The War of the Beard, the Elves pre-Sundering, Archaon’s Epic Journey, Sigmar and Nagash’s clash, the close places that got no love (like Arabs) and far off places such as Cathay. I want to see more than just a revision of the old armies. I want to see Brets and TK again, but I want to see armies we hadn’t and some more regional specific forces (Like a Nuln or Middenheim list, a Dwarf Slayer army, a Morathi army (even if it would be just Daughters in Fantasy).)
Honestly, it worries me a little when they compare it to Horus Heresy. It’s a fantastic setting, but I feel like GW (or FW rather) have totally dropped the ball on supporting it the past three years.
/end two cents
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Angels described in the Old Testament are less human-looking and more Neon Genesis Evangelion-looking, and honestly, that’s kind of the style I’d like to see 👍
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On 11/12/2019 at 5:45 AM, RuneBrush said:
As @Overread says, we don't have up to date information from GW as to their manufacturing process. That information comes from when they outsourced their plastic production to another company - which (if memory serves) they ended up buying so they could reduce the costs by doing production in house (this is when the ballpark figure of £50k per mold came from). At that point GW began investing money into making the process as good as they could for producing plastic miniatures and the techniques and processes involved became closed to the outside world in case a competitor ripped them off (a bit like some restaurants have a "secret sauce").
What we do know is that each mold is made from two* solid lumps of very high quality stainless steel and machined using CNC machines. The physical size of the sprue will affect the size (and cost) of the steel blanks and the complexity of the parts on it will affect the time it requires to machine.
Now you don't have to use stainless steel, other metals work and I'm sure I've heard that you can also use epoxy molds. However they all are going to effect the quality of the end result. If you think about the original AoS scenery which was produced in China, the quality wasn't very good at all and that was down to the material used for the molds not being a high enough quality to maintain a crisp edge.
Of course it's also worth bearing in mind that the cost of the mold is likely only a portion of the total investment put the product we buy. You've the hours put in by sculptors, painters, games designers, artwork, marketing etc plus the physical overhead of things like business rates, heating and lighting. It wouldn't surprise me if the actual Bonereaper release actually cost in the realm of 2 million all told.
* there are odd exceptions that use more - the Baneblade super heavy tank for example used more than two molds in order to achieve the holes in the gun barrels.
Personally, I don’t think rising costs (thus rising prices) are coming from production.
There’s a Warhammer store in my town of 100,000 (which I’m exaggerating, since there’s another town of 100,000 10 minutes away). There is a massive sink cost involved with putting in stores everywhere.
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3 hours ago, Sleboda said:
No. Really it's not. That insulting and belittling to the designers and the work they did on them.
I really don't get why people feel this compulsion to change the names on things in this hobby.
Sigmar takes souls and "reforges" them into a new body with gold plated armor. Based on experience, this may be stripping their personality from them.
Nagash takes souls and "reforges" them into a new body made of bone. Based on experience, this may be stripping their personality from them.
I'm pretty sure the designers would step back from this and say "Yea, that's the irony of the Bonereapers."
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7 hours ago, michu said:
Is it something close to "The code is more like... guidelines"?
I put it more akin to how laws are treated in Louisiana:
- I can't scalp tickets. I can however sell you a cheap dollar store pen for an exorbitant dollar amount, with the side deal of throwing in tickets for a game you may/may not want to go see, for free.
- If I sell you a Hurricane (alcoholic beverage) in a cup, you can't drive around with it because that's a beverage in an open container. If there's a lid on the cup, it's a closed container and you can and it's legal. If it has a straw in it, it's an open container and illegal. If the straw still has the wrapping over the top, it's a closed container and legal. And we all know you can't remove either the straw wrapper or lid and partake in the contents of your beverage and replace them, so there's nothing to see here.
Yes, we have this book of laws, but we have plenty of ways of doing what we want without "violating" the law.
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Our area just got a Warhammer store about a month ago, and now I'm the guy who sells people on Age of Sigmar because I collect the models, visit here, and know just about how the game is played. I've spent two of the last three weeks teaching games (We skip most of.
Best part is we've jumped from (as far as I knew) just myself two months ago, to four players three weeks ago, to roughly 10-12 players because two new people walked in and everyone else went and bought an army for their kid/SO.
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Latest Rumors line up with the old ones:
SCE Exorcism Soulstrike
Nighthaunt Court of the Craven King
Gloomspite Caveshroom Loonz
Skaven Corrupting War-swarm
So, time to speculate what's in the boxes.
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8 hours ago, Beliman said:
More "rumors/leaks/whatever".
They are not mine and I don't know the source (they are just popping in some forums and whats app groups).
Again, tons of salt!!!
Everything makes sense until the last week, which is just a massive dump of releases:
Week Release 26-Oct Feast of Bones 2-Nov Ossiarchs, Dominion Terrain, Hobby Supply 9-Nov Zone Mortalis, Necromunda:DU 16-Nov WU Dreadfane 23-Nov SC SM and CSM, Sisters Thanksgiving 30-Nov Battleforce Boxes 7-Dec Ogre Blood Bowl, LotR, StD, Warcry 14-Dec 21-Dec 28-Dec -
5 hours ago, JPjr said:
yep, would totally work too, I just see KO vs T being a slightly better fit as you can really go for the avian terrors versus skyfaring stunties angle, shoals of flux daemons and wing'ed abominations divebombing KO gunships, cackling Lords of Change clawing at the buoyancy endrins as doughty Duardin fire off aether powered sky hooks and engage in cutlass battles with boarding parties of gibbering horrors.
CHAOS IN THE CLOUDS, MAGICK VS SCIENCE, AETHERMATICS AGIN SORCERY, ETC ETC ETC
Makes for a good story.
Plus I'm sure there's been little hints of foreshadowing to it in some of the other BTs that have come out earlier this year with maps of Chamon in featuring various sky ports that aren't then alluded to further, but maybe that's just confirmation bias on my part.
Yea, like that rumored Orruks vs Fyreslayers.
My guess is Tzeentch vs Nurgle since they did Wrath and Rapture right before XMas last year.
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AoS rumors of Skaven, Stormcast, Nighthaunt, and Gloomspite are pretty good choices.
My prediction is that we probably get a Tzeentch vs Nurgle Box a la Wrath and Rapture and a Disciples release to start off the next year.
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1. You don't need the book. The AoS App has your unit profiles, 1d4chan has most of your Allegiance Abilities and Battalion Contents listed out, and for those gaps missing, almost every other youtuber/podcaster will talk about the few that are worth using.
2. Buying used models on eBay is usually the quick/cheapest way to go. Take your time bidding on items, there will always be better deals in the future. Avoid models that have already been primed (some primers are absolute garbage and will damage your models).
3. Ask local players if they have armies they would offer.
4. Buying fresh?: Splitting a two player box like Soul Wars, Wrath and Rapture,
Looncurse, or Carrion Empire(Whoops, those two don't exist anymore) provides one of the best points/price ratios you can get. You can usually find these on eBay for about 50% MSRP of the box.5. If you are building fresh selecting an army that has high points/price ratio, such as Beastclaw Raiders, and avoiding others, like Daughters of Khaine will allow you to get a full army for your bucks.
6. Playing at the 500 points level until you can get enough to muster 1000 points, then staying at 1000 points until you have 2000.
7. Don't paint your models unless you have to. Paint is just something money gets spent on. If you do have to paint, choose an easy color scheme and don't sweat details, or go with an easy scheme, like Khorne with Red, Black, and Brass.
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20 minutes ago, Dead Scribe said:
I think you're the first person I've heard say that. Most people that talk about the time before GW had points describe it as a bad time where fan comps were breaking the game even worse than they are today.
Going back to WFB 8th, I remember a lot of people playing Swedish Comp, since it "fixed" a lot of the balance issues at tournaments at the time (ex. Banner of the World Dragon was an incredibly powerful item). It's not surprising that that team went on to make T9A.
Balance will always be a topic of conversation and there isn't any changing that. The Time and Money that has to be invested into a new army to bring it to tabletop ready is significantly greater than the time/money invested into complaining online about how "easy" it would be to balance things. Contrast was such an amazing product for getting in new players, and then these price hikes just keep new/40K players from getting in.
IMO, most of the Youtubers/Podcasters/Battle Reporters had a better feel for what was crazy/overpowered/underpowered/needs buffs/needs nerfs than what GW did in General's Handbook 2019. No, it did not help that the most broken armies (FEC/Skaven/Slaanesh) were released in a time-period between both books in which they could not be fixed in time, but those weren't the only armies.
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1 hour ago, Not-not-kenny said:
Since Cities of Sigmar got one SC! box for dwarves and one for elves (or Greywater Fastness and Avilgard) it wouldn't surprise me if humans got a battleforce instead, possibly marked Hammerhal. They might even throw in some stormcast so they can get the golden boys in without having to give them another dedicated battleforce.
Hammerhal, Anvilgard, and Tempest’s Eye got boxes during the Firestorm campaign.
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1 hour ago, michu said:
But it didn't end the setting, it's the lack of headbutting that doomed the World-that-was.
He still head butted Archaon during The End Times, but it wasn’t effective and got killed for it.
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12 minutes ago, zilberfrid said:
Why?
Storm of Chaos
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23 hours ago, deumosd said:
I have a hobby problem at the moment- it is a good problem to have.
After finishing painting up my fyreslayers, I am looking to start a new army to paint up. Only problem is I can not pick between the two new battletombs. Have got them both but after looking at both still can not pick between them!
anyone started two armies up at the same time before? If you did, did you ever get them both finished?
just wondering if I should just try to do two at once!
CoS and Orruks?
I painted up a unit of State Troops and unit of Orcs back to back and didn’t have many issues as the paint schemes were completely different. But my usual issue cropped up of not staying focused on big projects and I was off painting Plague Monks (then stormcast, then building things, etc).
If you are going to do both at the same time, I suggest slowgrowing them in tandem. Start at 300-500 points each, play a game, then add the same amount of points for both.
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15 hours ago, Whitefang said:
It’s Gordrakk who aims to crack the gate of Azyr open and fight Sigmar face to face
I would prefer we keep orcs head-butting as far away from this new setting as possible.
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It’s literally everyone but Cities.
Makes me think that they have a Cities expansion planned.