Sleboda
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13 hours ago, Damosane said:
Do what you want! I dont really care! You asked if there was confirmation so I told you what I saw, I see someone also posted a screenshot. You can cling to your old book but its retired whether you like it or not. Doesn't make a difference if you play with reasonable friends.
I guess it's just confusing to me than an entire army would be squatted sooooo quickly, and then you add in that the "replacement" isn't even the same army ... I dunno, seems like a really bad turn from GW - and I really thought they had turned a corner with being better to customers. This really ... really ... really lowers my confidence in picking up new stuff from them. If entire armies are valid for only a few years, it's tough to justify buying them.
Ah well. Thanks, all, for the replies and guidance.
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5 minutes ago, Deakz28 said:
Actually some one commented on their Facebook page which they also commented stating it was the new book going forward
"Someone" saying "something" on the Most Eisley of internet sites/apps is hardly an official "ditch your old book, oh and also so sorry you wasted all that money on an army that is no longer valid" though, is it?
I totally get the bit where it says in the book that you need to use the most current warscrolls. That's fine. I can play Legions of Nagash with updated points/scrolls. I'm just not ready to start from scratch based on a FB reference.
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2 hours ago, KriticalKhan said:
He's just being obtuse about whether or not it's still legal to use in matched play. It's obvious that it's been replaced and won't receive any further support, but until GW releases some kind of FAQ or errata, technically it will still be usable, but if I'm remembering the rules right, you'd have to use the updated warscrolls and points.
No, not at all, but thank you very much for the insult!
I'm genuinely trying to figure out if GW themselves have actually informed the player base that this new product, with a name completely different, with contents that are not simple updates but actual new entries, renders obsolete an entire Battletome and all armies built using it.
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2 hours ago, pitzok said:
well, i'm not seeing any legions of nagash here so i guess it got replaced by soulblight + they don't sell the LoN battletome anymore
Fair enough, but still, no "this book replaces that book" statement from them, right?
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1 hour ago, edmc78 said:
Kinda good to see Cursed City re- releases but not mention of the origins of them. It is liked Cursed City never existed.
Since cancelling City, all references to the models and in-lore stuff has completely left out references to the game.
They are really trying to erase it. I am very curious to one day find out what the story behind them killing it is.
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4 hours ago, pitzok said:
official, just go on the gw website
Can you point to it? I'm not seeing anything saying the Nagash book is no longer valid.
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15 hours ago, dirkdragonslayer said:
just like it for melee heroes since it means I can give them whatever weapon I want without having to worry about WYSIWYG.
Whereas for me, this would be something that would push me away from them game a little. If the appearance of the models doesn't matter, why not use cardboard chits?
No thanks.
I want my swords to be swords and lances to be lances.
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4 minutes ago, KriticalKhan said:
Are hardback novels limited runs? This is kinda lame
Beyond lame.
Predatory.
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9 hours ago, RuneBrush said:
we're losing some options (Grand Host and Legion of Sacrement)
Are we? Is there anything saying that the Nagash book is *replaced* by this entirely differently named book?
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20 hours ago, sandlemad said:
those are tomb kings skeletons. Vampire Counts shields, Tomb Kings standard and headdress. A nice nod to her particular ancestry and a cause for great lamentation among TK players.
Uh, yeah. I don't see it as a nod, but rather as a laughing smack in the face to players who, like me, have no greater love for anything in the history of Warhammer than the Tomb Kings who were gleefully obliterated by GW.
Unless, of course, this is a harbinger of their return. At that point, I'll give GW my account and routing numbers.
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Ha! I just pretty much got confirmation that the new vampire book is a rush job/goof/placeholder. Earlier I said I was on the fence about buying it since I'm expecting it to be shoddy or quickly (relatively) replaced. In the time since then, I've seen a photo of a rule that almost certainly can't work.
Without going into detail, it says you spend a command point in the hero phase to grant a boost to a unit's close combat attacks. This boost lasts ... wait for it ... until the end of that hero phase. So, you know, before you even reach the upcoming combat phase where you make the (no longer boosted) attacks. Lol!
Is there maybe some extreme fringe case where somehow, some way the target of the command ability can fight in the hero phase? Sure. Maybe. But come on. Are you really investing in the model and its command point expenditure on a fringe (at best!) use?
If that's the quality of the rules writing in the book, it's a hard pass. No more fence sitting on this one for me.
SMH.
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1 hour ago, Aeryenn said:
In my AoS playing group we joke that rules writers should have their name written down on the front page so we could know what kind of power level to expect.
Agreed. After the botched Tomb Kings and, I believe, Tyranid books from Robin Cruddace, I recalibrated my expectations of quality for anything to which he was attached. Nothing personal against the human himself, but his lack of skill in creating rules at that point really soured my opinion of anything with his name on it.
It would be nice to know who the lead designer on an army is in order to help decide what, of anything, to purchase for that army. Hmm, maybe that's why they don't tell us!
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1 hour ago, CarkFish said:
Please no..... This si why im refusing to buy any models untill I've been through the book myself.... I'm in the market for a new army..... but.... I cant afford to spend my hobby pounds on trash rules .... No matter how much I like the models
I'm really on the fence with this book. The recent trend of releasing, deliberately and with foreknowledge, of incomplete Battletomes really has me gunshy about getting the vampire book. It would really irk me to buy a $40 book now (let alone the limited version) only to see a completed version come out in a year or under. Add to it the issue of it being what we might think of as a transition/end of cycle/serving two masters book, and I think it's likely the book will have more than a few difficulties surviving long at all.
I used to click buy on the book (including limited editions of armies I consider primary forces for me - like anything undead), scrolls, and a minimum of one of all new kits (often much, much more) for any army I have even a tiny inclination to play. Now, with my confidence eroded concerning the lifespan of books and scrolls, I find I'm likely to hold off almost entirely on a new army range until later. In other words, GW's plan to sell me a book and scrolls twice in a short span, doubling those sales from about $75 to about $150, has likely resulted in their loss of $1000+ sales for an indeterminate amount of time, perhaps even permanently as my interest could easily wane as I await their release of the "actual" Battletome and scrolls.
Add the Cursed City debacle (and nearly complete lack of communication on that issue) and my once mostly unshakable faith in sight unseen purchases is pretty much shot.
In the case of this army, I'm really only likely to get a model or two to paint initially, if that.
Stinks, really, as I would love to sink my teeth into this range, but it's just too tough to ignore the recent trend.
That said, I encourage everyone else to buy, buy, buy. My GW share value has enjoyed a long run of tremendous growth. Please help keep that going!
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The more I look at the image, and think about other stuff coming, the more I think this is a new lizardman unit. Some sort of hunters tied to the Beastgrave warband's mission. As in, maybe the Slann plan has had to evolve to deal with the new monsters emerging as a result of the mountain/god awakening. The pending release of the new Kroak model just feels somehow to tie in.
I dunno. Whatevs.
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56 minutes ago, AngryPanda said:
calvary-based Blood Knight army
Sorry, no insult intended, but I just had to snicker at the idea of bloodthirsty Xtian warriors charging forth from their hill-fortress in AoS.
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3 hours ago, Ganigumo said:
Now the way it is written, no part of the rule actually overrides the general rules. It doesn't say "As though there was no unit within 3" " or something like that it just says the unit "can make a normal move" which is exactly what the core rules state anyways.
Exactly. In order to invoke the idea that "special rule overrides core rule" you need an actual conflict between the two, not just a wish.
In this case, you can apply both rules without conflict. We may not like the result, but wishful thinking doesn't allow us to invent a rule.
As it stands, the Ruin rule isn't very useful at all. I strongly suspect there will be changes in the new core rules governing moves that will let the special rule work most of us here think it should. We just have to wait.
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57 minutes ago, JackStreicher said:
I‘ll wait for GMG‘s Battletome review before buying anything ^^
Speaking of that, are there any other good review sites out there? I really, really want to like GMG, but damn, the main host just makes too many assumptions and rushes through words too much to make their content enjoyable/useful to me.
I'd love to find a (professional, money-making) site that understands that not all their viewers are longtime players and that uses hosts that can speak well. I mean, if you make money using words, use your words well. Ya know?
Suggestions?
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32 minutes ago, Bosskelot said:
It just doesn't work in a pure IGUGO system and it never will. The "fix" stated in the video just shows what a mess it is too.
If it truly is essentially unchanged then I really think GW doesn't understand how divisive the mechanic is and how much it is actively holding AOS back.
Opinions.
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8 hours ago, dekay said:
Nice as they are, it is likely the shortest time period that battletome/codex has been up to date. Slaanesh literally just got the update and just a few months later there are already models not in the book. Cool.
Yeah. I'm really hoping (I know, I know ... hope is the first step on the road to disappointment) that the Slaanesh model of "make a half book at full price, less than a year later, sell the same book again but the time with everything ... oh wait, a few months later sell another book to actually make a complete army ... oh wait ..." does not become the norm. That would go s long way toward freezing my Warhammer gaming evolution at AoS 2.0. I'm not buying the rules for one army 3+ times in a year.
That said, nice models.
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2 minutes ago, Bombort said:
I think it is a good thing, that they sell these new Playfields on Cardboard. (Maybe this affects the 3.0 Edition like Cursed City?)
Although i loved the plastic playfield, it was way too expensive for a core item needed to play. I would love it, if gw started to produce its own game-mats for an ok price. I have a few from other companys an they are great for playing.
Back in the old days, we played on 4' x 8' tables and you had to build them yourself from plywood, 2x4s, screws, and a little elbow grease ... and they were great. None of this pre-fab stuff. Carpenters glue, fine ballast, green paint. Ah, the memories.
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On 4/12/2021 at 2:36 PM, Darnok said:
Absolutely stunning model - and once more something for the showcase only. Like with Teclis I ask myself who actually plays with stuff like this?
I feel the same way about any model with a "scenic" base. I mean, really? The same piece of terrain just moves around the table with the character? More than a bit silly. Gorgeous, but super silly.
That said, heck yes this thing (and many of those other models) is stunning!
I'm thinking three:
One for me to paint as-is for display.
One for me to trim down, paint, and play with.
One for @TwiceIfILikeIt to break down into a hundred conversion bits, other than the little beasties that she'll stick onto something Skaven, Nurgle, or Gobbo.
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First game done.
So much potential for fun, but I really do feel a lot was missed.
1. How do you keep track of which enemy groups are tied to which card?
2. How do you mark where the mysteries are?
3. Index?
4. No, really. Index?
5. What is a gambit? Like, what does it do? Where is the definition of what a gambit is?
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12 hours ago, Urauloth said:
I always want to type a "B" in "SGL" and I have to remind myself that "Soulblight" is one word so it's not really right to initialize it that way. "SBGL" feels better though. It has a dark power, an evil lure.
We could all, you know, actually use the words our highly advanced monkey brains have developed in order to allow us to communicate.
Abbreviation is fine, but not when it confuses people.
Also, I'll reiterate that we really could use a mouse-over/hover way to include known terms and pop up references. This site is so, so good, and so welcoming, but this is an area where it could get better.
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13 hours ago, Chaos Shepard said:
Last Friday would have been better.
Tuesdays are an option, as well.
The Rumour Thread
in Age of Sigmar Discussions
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It is. Going full demon with Khorne is a choice you make to deliberately hamstring your army.