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I was looking at the Blackout 2018 results: https://aosshorts.com/blackout-2018-report/ A Sylvaneth list came 9th: Spirit of Durthu (380) - General. Gnarled Warrior. Alarielle the Everqueen (600)- Throne of vines. Treelord Ancient (300) - Regrowth Drycha Hamadreth (280)- Verdant blessing. Swarm, of sqirmlings. Branchwraith (80) - Regrowth. Acorn of the ages. 10x Dryads (100) 10x Dryads (100) 10x Dryads (100) Chronomatic Cogs (60) 2000 points. I found it a little surprising. Only 85 wounds. Min sized dryad units. No revenants. No battalions. No rubbish taken in order to fulfil requirements elsewhere. No oaken armour!! - that TLA is going to be squishier than I'm used to. However, it does have ALL the big guys. TLA and Durthu and Alarielle and Drycha. Yowsa. Got me thinking - Is that Dryad >12 bonus and -30 points for 30 of them really worth it if in return you need to take even more battleline? When instead you have more room for something really cool. Curious how the cogs were used and what Alarielle summoned (Kurnoth sword/scythes I'd hope), and if TLA and Durthu stuck together or split up.

Does this mean my TLA can set up a wyldwood during my opponents hero phase? EDIT: Ignore me, this is answered in the FAQ:

Update your app. It's been fixed.

That sounds like a lot of dryads! I considered 30, but with 1 branchwraith decided 20 would be enough. Is it possible to summon an understrength unit? Like if I have only 5 dryads on the sidelines mid game?

But would you take Drycha over 3 Kurnoths and an order wizard? 2000: Alarielle (600), Branchwraith (80), Branchwych (80), 20 Dryads (200), Drycha Hamadreth (280), Treelord Ancient (300), 2x5 Tree-Revenants (160), Gnarlroot+Household (230), endless spells (70) 2000: Alarielle (600), Branchwraith (80), Branchwych (80), 20 Dryads (200), 3 Kurnoth Hunters (200), Treelord Ancient (300), 2x5 Tree-Revenants (160), Battlemage (120), Gnarlroot+Household (230), endless spells (30) (Or replace Battlemage for Archmage (100) and more endless spell fun)

I like this wacky list. No idea if it's any good. Why the Namarti Thralls - what do they have Sylvaneth don't? I would have chosen the eels. You'll have to keep all your non sylvaneth away from your woods. I was having a bash at a Heartwood 2000 list too. Impossible to get Alarielle in there (1980 gets you basic heartwood and Alarielle. No battleline!). Could manage it on a 2500, I think. Would be really nice if you could battleline Kurnoths for Heartwood. Base tax of 200 for heartwood (80) and free spirits (120) then: 1970: Branchwraith (80), Branchwych (80), 30 Dryads (270), 12 Kurnoth Hunters (800), Spirit of Durthu (380), 2x5 Tree-Revenants (160) 1940: Branchwraith (80), 2x 20 Dryads (400), 12 Kurnoth Hunters (800), Spirit of Durthu (380), 5 Tree-Revenants (80) Or, you could get rid of the branches (losing summoning) and go for 60 Dryads off the starting line. 1980: 3x20 Dryads (600), 12 Kurnoth Hunters (800), Spirit of Durthu (380) 2000: 2x30 Dryads (540), 12 Kurnoth Hunters (800), Spirit of Durthu (380), 5 Tree-Revenants (80) However, I'm not sure the Heartwood bonus' are really giving much - Bravery +1 and a 1in3 chance of resurrecting a Dryad/Tree-Revenant unit. The revenants do die quickly, but those Dryads can hang around for quite a while and you need to wait until they are completely destroyed before resurrecting, which is probably fairly late in the game, especially with units of 30. Wondering if just free spirits as you get the extra movement, but at 120 that's quite expensive. At least you only need 9 Kurnoths and could fit in Alarielle.

I get 1970. Which then gives you some room to add in 5 more Tree Revenants, at the cost of one or two of your endless spells. The other problem I have with Gnarlroot (other than the ones pointed out in previous posts) is that once you throw in Alarielle, get battleline sorted, there isn't really any room to play with. When you say "OPTIMAL list" that make me a little sad. I feel like Sylvaneth has quite a few different list styles via the battalions, but that each battalion has not many options to spice them up. We are going to see very similar lists played across the board by Sylvaneth players. My non-battalion list looks very similar. So, trying to find a little variety, I swapped Durthu for Drycha to free up some points. Those extra 100 don't get you much (I'm looking for something bigger than more battleline). I ended up allying in some fishes. 1960: Alarielle the Everqueen (600), Branchwraith (80), 20 Dryads (200), Drycha Hamadreth (280), 3 Kurnoth Hunters (200), Treelord Ancient (300), 2x5 Tree-Revenants (160), 3 Akhelian Ishlaen Guard (140) Giving 40 points for some spells (not got hold of that yet, so no idea what to pick).

Thinking kurnoth bows might be the summon choice for Alarielle. Get them summoned in turn one, them leave them at the back. Finding it hard to get every unit I want into 2000. Always want some kurnoth, and there is never a vanilla treelord in my lists. Might as well go for the unit I really want.