PraetorDragoon
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23 minutes ago, Televiper11 said:
Kragnos still looks BoC to me.
With a face like that Kurnothi seems to be unlikely.
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8 minutes ago, KingBrodd said:
Anything Destruction related I would enjoy. Sulphur Breath Troggoths, new Mancrusher, more Orruks, more Ogors.
What if Kragnos is a mega-gargant centaur?
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4 hours ago, Neck-Romantic said:
Yeah the cruciator is just rough. Expensive, competes with an already clogged hero lineup, decent shooting for a conditional +1 to FnP...
Feels like he needed something more. Some sort of synergy with chainghasts maybe
I feel the same. The Curciator is not bad, as decent reliable shooting and improving toughness of Nighthaunt is something we lack, Still it feels like something is missing there.
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1 hour ago, Heijoshin said:
Guys and gals, can you take the"Ruler of the Spirit hosts" Command trait in Reikenor's Condemned, As technically the subfaction does not have an associated command trait you are forced to take?
You can.
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3 minutes ago, Vasshpit said:
Why does everyone keep saying "indominus style" box? Was there something different or more to it that made it not just a "starter" kit for a new edition?
Not poking fun, I'm just thrown off here.
The Indominus box was a limited box. It wasn't coined as a starter box, those currently are the Recruit/Elite/Command editions for 40k.
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7 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:
I imagine the original plan was to release everything at a more reasonable pace. The point booklet for Cursed City indicates that game was supposed to be released in November of last year. The intention was probably to release Broken Realms books every two months or so to give them room to breathe, but that got screwed up by COVID. Just look at the huge release gap we had last year. GW are probably still trying to catch up from that.
The same happened last year with 40k. The Psychic Awakening books were supposed to be released over a longer timeframe. Then there were a bunch of delays and all the PA books had to be crammed out in order to be out before the 40k9e release.
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14 minutes ago, HollowHills said:
Anyone else wondering why Morathi and Kroak are buddies now?
Less buddies and more both being anti-Chaos.
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6 minutes ago, TimeToWaste85 said:
I’d like to go back to WHFB style where artifacts cost points, and just keep the limit that no character can have more than 1. Some artifacts NEVER see use because they all cost the same, but if they had different costs from each other, it could cause a nice shift (ex: run and charge artifact is worth way more than “one use only” anything artifact). Currently everything has an equal, identical cost: first is free, second (or more) cost battalions.
Even back in the WHFB days there were enough artifacts that were never used.
Cost and like isn't the problem with the non-picked afterfacts. Those simply aren't good enough to be picked.
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GW tends to group all their special characters in a single subfaction, so the focus might be on Virkos Bloodline but there are also others around.
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20 minutes ago, Sception said:
I don't count on an updated scroll for skittles & zombies, or anything else. I'd like to see it - particularly better armor for skittles to match the new models and zombies in batches of 20 to allow for a more meaningful max unit discount - but GW doesn't like to update warscrolls if they can help it. We've seen several op units stay op and several bad units stay bad because of this inertia. It's a 'cross your fingers, but don't hold your breath' sort of thing.
At the very least they'll get an update on the keywords, so they get to belong to the Soulblight Gravelords allegiance.
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I'm not sure, but I believe the Sons of Behemat mega gargants aren doing much buffing.
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I expect Bloodlines to be handled like subfactions, and the Cursed City Bloodline (I think the rat prince is also from that one?) to be prominent.
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I would suspect that Bloodlines will be the subfactions of the Gravelords. Vampiric Powers I would assume will either be slotted under an Artefact table or potentially a specific table like how Mount Traits/Great Endrinworks work.
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As a specific mechanic, I think they're fine. Sometimes an effect that causes a wound that cannot be saved can feel impressive and useful.
What I do think is that mortal wounds in combination with how AoS resolves attacks closed the door to automatic wound mechanics. I.E. spells or effects that inflict d6 damage 1 automatic wounds (you still roll saves) or similiar could have been an interesting mechanic.
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46 minutes ago, Aeryenn said:
Do you think we can expect some normal points for Cursed City Death units? I mean other than 680 points for the whole hero pack? It's basically unplayable on any other than total amateur level.
I wouldn't expect it. The Cursed City characters are primary intended to be used in Cursed City, with bonus rules for AoS.
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13 minutes ago, sandlemad said:
Someone dragged in BR_III_FINAL.ai instead of BR_II_FINAL.ai, probably.
Probably saved it as BR_II_FINAL_FINAL.ai.
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26 minutes ago, warhammernerd said:
Do we think thats the deal? Not new varghulf?
The Vargskyr in Cursed City is a distinct entity from the current Varghulf Courtier. Its a new variant of the old Vampire Counts varghulf, but isn't a new varghulf.
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1 hour ago, Honk said:
The way I read the fluff, Nagash is gone (again) sleeping in his black pyramid or whatever and Arkhan kinda fell off the world (like that dude in soul wars)
so both might be a goner for SBGL (but still available in obr)...
if Nagash gets the same rules as in obr (knows all spells heals all units) I’d be a happy vassal
Fair point about fluff. Maybe his model will be repurposed as a non-unique Avatar of Nagash? (In the vein of Eidolons of Mathlann)
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45 minutes ago, Sception said:
I doubt the guard will need rebasing if you want to use them as skeleton warriors. IIRC the new ones have been confirmed to be on the same bases, though I can't find the facebook post about it anymore.
I'm fairly confident that everything which isn't in another codex and does currently have a plastic model will remain in ~some form~, though it may be getting a new model and it might be merged with another unit. The long list:
Leaders
- Nagash - probably gone, that's an obr hero now
- Arkhan - probably gone, that's an obr hero now
- Mannfred - Almost certainly there, probably with the same model.
- Neferata - Almost Certainly there, probably with the same model.
- Vhordrai - an open question, since he doesn't have a bespoke model. Could get demoted to 'generic vampire lord on zombie dragon but with a name in the background lore'. Or he could be promoted to bespoke model with a partial re-sprue of the existing zombie dragon. Or could be left as is, a special character with no distinct model to speak of.
- Kritza - Basically confirmed
- Radukar - he'll definitely get rules. Whether they make it into the battletome is anyone's guess.
- Torgillius - he'll definitely get rules. Whether they make it into the battletome is anyone's guess.
- Gorslav - he'll definitely get rules. Whether they make it into the battletome is anyone's guess.
- Halgrim - he'll definitely get rules. Whether they make it into the battletome is anyone's guess.
- Annika - She'll definitely get rules. Whether they make it into the battletome is anyone's guess.
- Vampire Lord - confirmed with at least one new model
- Vampire Lord on Steed - very likely, but still crossing fingers for signs of a new model though
- Vampire Lord on Zombie Dragon - Basically confirmed, I expect with the same model
- Blood Palanquin - Very likely to stay imo, and with the same model.
- Coven Throne - Very likely to stay imo, and with the same model.
- Wight King on Steed - confirmed with new model
- Wight King on foot - almost certainly there, may or may not get a new model
- Necromancer - almost certainly there, may or may not get new model
- New generic zombie hero version of Gorslav - very likely
- Cairn Wraith - probably gone, that's a nighthaunt unit now
- Tomb Banshee - probably gone, that's a nighthaunt unit now
- Other new heroes we haven't seen yet: I don't know. Probably? At the same time, though, this is already a very long list. One could even call it 'excessive' or 'bloated', especially if all the warhammer quest heroes make it in and Nagash/Arkhan aren't removed. And that's not even touching on the rumors that FEC might get rolled back into the gravelords.
Misc
- Sepulchral guard - Probably included, but not clear yet whether they'll have bespoke rules or just count as Deathrattle Skeletons'
- Crimson Court - Probably included, but not clear yet whether they'll have bespoke rules or just count as Vampire Lords
- Faction Terrain - Probably? Then again, the mausoleum kit already exists and fits this faction's concept and aesthetic, so it's plausible that kit might get re-packaged as soulblight faction terrain.
- Faction Endless Spells - Probably? Then again, the FEC spells - a stampede of dead horses, a cemetary wall, and a floating chalice of blood - already exist and fit this faction's concept and aesthetic. There are rumors of FEC possibly getting rolled back into the Gravelords, and if that happens we may just end up sharing their spells. Otherwise, yeah, we'll probably get new endless spells of our own.
Units
- Skeleton Warriors - confirmed with new models and name change to 'Deathrattle Skeletons'
- Deadwalker Zombies - confirmed with new models
- Direwolves - basically confirmed, still crossing fingers for new models
- Black Knights - basically confirmed, probably with the same models imo
- Hexwraiths - probably gone, that's a nighthaunt unit now
- Spirit Hosts - probably gone, that's a nighthaunt unit now
- Grave Guard - not clear yet whether they carry on as their own unit, with or without new models, or get demoted to 'Deathrattle Skeletons'
- blood knights - confirmed with new models
- fell bats - confirmed with new models
- bat swarms - basically confirmed with new cursed city models
- rat swarms - will definitely get rules, almost certainly in the book since kritza's basically confirmed
- ulfenwatch - basically just deathrattle skeletons, but might get bespoke rules if halgrim is treated as a unique unit champ
- vykos bloodborn - will definitely get rules, no confirmation that they'll be in book or get a separate model release, but imo very likely
- cursed city zombie ogres - I forget their names. Will definitely get rules, no confirmation that they'll be in the book or get a separate model release. imo somewhat likely, but I'm not as confident of them as I am with the vykos.
- Morghasts - probably gone, that's an obr unit now
- Vargheists - probably staying, probably with the same models.
- 'legion black coach' - almost assuredly gone
- Other entirely new units - possibly? Again though, that's already a pretty expansive list, without even touching the possibility of FEC units getting rolled back in.
big single models
- corpse cart - probably staying, probably with the same model, nothing confirmed
- mortis engine - probably staying, probably with the same model, nothing confirmed
- Unridden Zombie Dragon - nothing confirmed, might go as it's a FEC unit
- Terrorgheist - nothing confirmed, might go as it's a FEC unit
- Vargskyr - definitely getting rules, not confirmed for book or separate release but imo very likely.
- Other big individual centerpiece stuff - probably? GW does like their big expensive centerpiece models. Though between mortarchs, dragons, engines, thrones, palanquins, and maybe terrorgheists we're not exactly lacking here, and not every battletome update has seen a big new centerpiece, especially if you don't count faction terrain.
Is that everything? Did I leave anything out? Do my assessments of the possiblities / relativel likeliness of different things seem on point?
Personally I think Nagash can hop in the same way he can hop into OBR. He doesn't have the OBR keyword, but can get it as part of the allegiance at the cost of allies.
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Bilepiper is a vast improvement already.
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26 minutes ago, novakai said:
i guess we went from the Activation wars into the Pile-in Wars
I do find messing with Pile Ins (both as a buff or debuff) to be more interesting than messing with activations. It gives more opportunities for interesting game design, and gives more difference between short and longer range weapons.
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15 minutes ago, sandlemad said:
New article on BR Teclis: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/03/26/how-to-survive-a-godly-smackdown-between-teclis-and-nagash/
Of some note is that Neferata is shown with the current Grave Guard minis. Could be significant RE: their presence in the new Soulblight tome but then we can see a few current skellies on the left, so it's probably just an older picture reused.
Perhaps more notable is some details on the new Sloppity Bilepiper rules. I am not too mature to admit that 'My Love Is Like A Ripe, Ripe ******' got a smile out of me. EDIT: I cannot believe that f_a_r_t is blocked out by the filter, that's hilarious.
These rules make me jolly.
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3 minutes ago, JackStreicher said:
Stop getting my hopes up! 😛
Never!
A more interesting question is what will happen to the Zombie Ogors. Unit size 2 makes them less likely to cross over in a regular kit.
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37 minutes ago, Jacek said:
Depends on your build.
If you take avatar on foot - no need for circlet (as it rerolls 1s, not unmodified 1s - that is my understanding so far) so if you are near avatar on foot (+1 to prayer rolls) you just succeed on 2+ and on 1 you take no dmg. Then you can replace circlet with something else.
Rerolls happen before any modifiers have been applied, so a reroll 1s is the same as rerolls unmodified 1s, per the core rules.
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The Rumour Thread
in Age of Sigmar Discussions
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The one in the middle? That one looks like the Quest Knight to me.