shinros

Please change the warcry rules to allow marks, please change the warcry rules to allow marks, Please..... >_<

When the ironjaws took their allpoint. Such narratives exist.

This piece of art is awesome. Who knows there might be more models.

Man, I would be excited to see a giant faction. The sculpts on the gargants are great! I wonder what the designers can do if they go wild?

Well that's their opinion, it's not an outlandish one to have when movies and IP's have been destroyed because it. I don't entirely agree with them but i've seen it happen. They are worried about the slippery slope. I'm not going to get too bent out of shape about it until GW starts going that route.

Yeah but they aren't painted like them. Ok let me change it, if they were all black and that was the canon from now on that wouldn't bother you? It would bother me. Edit:Luckly GW aren't like that since they said they want to avoid doing stuff like that.

No doesnt, let me be more clear I don't want them changing factions or warping their lore to fit a damn quota. What if they changed all of your ogres into asians and say no other type exist thats what I mean. So far I think GW are handling reprensation in a good way so far. Representation wasn't what got me into warhammer.

As a black guy the last thing on my mind when I started was whether the the models were painted white, black, yellow etc. If one day GW makes all dwarfs yellow, brown etc all it will do ia annoy the hell out of me. Hell the females in my store play nurgle, beastmen and seraphon. You can have representatuon where it fits organically but to force it will just aggravate me.

Woah, what are you thinking? Sigmar loves his chisled abs, pecks and boob plate on his armour, its part of the stormcasts charm. Also there is already racism in the setting via the reclaimed, those tribes or groups of people who survived chaos are looked down upon by those from ayzr.

I agree with you here we are missing that aspect of chaos in our stories. While Sigmar is the opposite, he picks people who don't give into their dark impulses and fights for their fellow man. I would give you a like but I ran out.

Honestly I think this is one of the first times I have seen on a forum where people are largely being adults in this discussion actually. Made me actually quite happy to be fair and brightened my day.

See here's the thing, I don't entirely agree but I understand your point. I don't think people should of jumped you for it either. Honestly I think this topic was rather helpful in clearing the air than clogging the rumour thread, but I suspect the mods are going to lock this up.

See I think female stormcast are fine, male Space Marines are ingrained in the setting. Don't get me wrong I like representation, Iove my female and Male Magus in my GSC. I'm just a jaded individual, I've seen time and time again companies showing that they don't actually care about representation at all. It's why I now mainly shrug at it.

When I'm talking about sense, I mean the levels female Space Marines. My whole outlook is that companies don't give a flying monkies about representation, that's my stance and why I don't really care. Blizzard the company that cares so much about it seems to be okay with removing the witch doctor for China and banning a guy for campaigning for basic human rights. Wizard of coast are okay with changing a character's sexual orientation to appease china. To get money. Hence why I see it largely as a farce.

I agree with you completely. But most companies aren't doing it because they are altruistic, if they don't think it will earn them more money they will drop it in a heartbeat. That's already been made clear enough as it is. As I said I'm extremely jaded. Edit:As I said GW are one of the better companies handling it, I just think some people are kinda scared that GW will fly off the handle. I personally don't think they will.

Thing is most corporations are using it to fill a quota and will remove it for the sake of more money. Aka wizard coast, a female had interest in both sexes, that was quickly changed in a novel to appease China she now only likes big muscled men. A novel that was also available in the west now people are in an uproar over twitter. They even remove black characters or altar them for their Chinese game client aka blizzard Diablo 3 and even star wars when it comes to finn. Now GW aren't like that(thankfully), but most are. Hence why I'm cynical whenever I see it. It's why whenever I see companies pushing that angle hard I just roll my eyes. I mean you heard of the China Blizzard situation right? That's basic human rights. I'm just really jaded, don't let me pull down your excitement, I just don't trust corporations in general.

Yup, can't wait! The hammer obviously belongs to a gargant.

Yeah, anyway there is a separate topic for this.

To be fair most of them are sculpted to be chiseled, good looking muscle men. I mean we know GW can do it, I think the female Magus for GSC is pretty good sculpt, better than some of the sister faces actually. Ironically in my store the females literally have no interest in the supposed female armies, they are doing nurgle, beastmen, tyranids and bonereapers. But, you know that's anecdotal, everyone is different. Read an interesting story on reddit where a father bought his little girl to a GW store and she picked out custodes.

My opinion is I don't really care as long as it makes sense.

I think the is issue hollow has is that many entertainment mediums, from movies, to shows etc take it too far alienating their customers. Leading them to bombing or destroying their ips or fandoms. But I recall GW makes the express point they don't want to do that. As I black person, I feel many companies these days are just using my skin colour to fill a quota. Just my opinion. Now GW aren't doing this, I feel they are doing this an organic way in my opinion. When I try to point this out, people say I'm not black, I'm a racist white boomer behind a keyboard, many people who do call me this are actually white themselves lol. To me his post feels like his fear talking, I can also see 123lac's point. I'm excited for sisters, but this made me roll eyes back into my head, going to use the top right head instead or even the bottom one. Talked with my mates in my GW store and they all agree wondering what the hell is this? The black's sister nose is freaking huge! It's clear what GW are shooting for, but they missed the mark in opinion. Now everyone is jumping on him, I don't even entirely agree with him, but I do understand what he is trying to say. In my eyes that's his fear talking.

Issue is why are most of the characters hammers of sigmar? That's my beef really. I honestly think GW is one of the better companies handling this IMO. Just want to say that.

I think it's going to be interesting to have a Gargant faction, those who like painting big models are most likely going to have a blast with it.

I disagree on stormcasts, Sigmar doesn't really pick them based on how strong they are but more on their character and inner spirit than anything else. Hell Gardus was a simple hospice priest who tried to fight off chaos with candlesticks and endured Nurgle messing with his patients. The whole reforging process makes the strength issue moot point. The opposite is for chaos, the gods like you more depending on how strong you are and how far you are willing to go to give them more souls, that's when they will empower you. I can say a lot on this subject, but I think the topic will veer off if this discussion is pursued.

I can understand his point, as a black guy I am going to point out the new sister of battle canoness, her nose is freaking huge. I can see what GW is aiming for, but they kinda missed the mark in my opinion. Got plenty of female black friends and their noses aren't like that. All I can do is raise my eyebrow. To me that model just seems like a quota just like Hollow said. I mean hell, we still don't have a Gardus model for the hallowed knights considering how popular he is. Why do they all need to be hammers of sigmar?