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Does anyone have a link to this? I don't remember seeing it. The impression that I get is that this is all based on them being mentioned in various books. We know (from Nick Horth on stormcast) that the writers nest stuff into the books for potential inspiration for the miniatures designers at some undetermined point down the line, but it definitely doesn't have any bearing on how likely they are to be released soon, otherwise we would have grotbag scuttlers. I could be wrong, but this seems like one of those situations where the community works itself up into a fervour about something with no real indication it's happening, then convinces itself that everything is a clue towards that end, and then blames GW when something they never promised fails to materialise.

Where is the idea that there is any impending new aelf faction release coming from? Is it just that they have appeared in the lore?

@Lanoss I have been running double maw krusha bloodtoofs (and will be for the foreseeable future because I'm moving house and won't have a chance to paint anything else before my next tournament). I love it, and have a decent record in club games recently. (I went 1-4 at blood & glory but that was my first games of AOS2). To be honest I'd be surprised to do better than 2-3 at a tournament, but then I've never done better than that with any army anyway 😂) It means you can use one to cover most of the table for the waagh, and then stick the other in their face (I take mirrored cuirass for some mortal wound defence). Yes taking objectives can be tricky so you have to push to do enough damage to keep your opponent off them, but that's part of the fun! PS. If you ever play escalation with this list then good luck 😂

you know this thread doesn't require constant contribution right?

Hey no posts from ndabreaker for a while huh?

I think LVO is something like feb 9th?

huh? Did you mean to quote me?

Seraphon have been rumoured in several places over the last few months, so if we get a book AND the rest of what they said about it is correct, then that'll tell

three!

It's very similar to my list, except I take bloodtoofs instead of the ardboyz. I'm having reasonable success with it (for Ironjawz & compared to my usual poor performance) but I rely heavily on the aetherquartz brooch and mirrored cuirass, which you won't have

Then you don't get the bravery buff? 🤔 I only place it if there isn't another realmgate on the board, as I'm not running a wizard at the moment, so I can't use it but my opponent usually can, and the battalion rules says as long as there are any realmgates. But if there isn't another one I'll place it for the bravery buff and can use it to block off a small part of your opponents territory

As another point, the maw krusha should only have 14 wounds 😂

I may have bought a balewind and weirdnob yesterday after reading your chrimbobo write up😁

The main things Maw Krusha brings IMO are speed and having lots of weapons and a massive base for the Waaagh, making the range of it effectively 36"ish

They usually do them straight after Xmas for people starting a new army for the new year

yeah was frustrating, especially as I could take an endless spell but couldn't cast it ? yeah low model count and was a big deal, but can't see a way around it without taking 30 ardboyz, but then I think one of the things the list needs is more units for the waagh, and a big unit of ardboyz wouldn't help with that. Brutes did feel like they could easily get left behind, and swapping them for GGs would make the waagh easier, but they definitely felt more reliable in combat, so swings and roundabouts really.

I ran this at B&G: Allegiance: DestructionMortal Realm: HyshLeadersMegaboss on Maw-Krusha (440)- General- Trait: Prophet of the Waaagh! - Artefact: Aetherquartz Brooch Megaboss on Maw-Krusha (440)- Artefact: Mirrored Cuirass BattlelineUnits5 x Orruk Brutes (180)3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (140)5 x Orruk Brutes (180)3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (140)3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (140)BattalionsBloodtoofs (120)Ironfist (180)Total: 1960 / 2000Extra Command Points: 2Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 103 Ended up 1-4, which seems to have been pretty standard for Ironjawz players at the event, but was a lot of fun to play and I was enough in all the games that I would probably want to give it at least another tournament (Friday was my first game of AoS 2) before I decided to change it. Game 1 was gnarlroot Sylvaneth with Alarielle, Durthu and TLA. I gave him first turn, then killed alarielle turn one, got the double and killed durthu and a unit of dryads. At this point we both thought I had it sewn up, but he had summoned a unit of scythe hunters turn one, and between them and the TLA, who was almost always -2 to hit he ended up tabling me. Couldn't deal with him constantly summoning units of dryads, all the minuses to hit, and it was relocation orb and the movements all went his way. Game 2 was Beasts of Chaos on escalation, which is a bad scenario for me, as both MKs had to start in the far corner, so I'm forced to hold out to turn two or three to set off the waagh. As it was he had 5 points by the time it all kicked off and even though I almost tabled him he made good use of ambushing and the herdstone summoning to keep enough objectives to stop me winning. Game 3 was Sureheart Stormcast on total commitment, bit of a result considering the scenario shafts their gameplan. I think my strategy was sound but I played it completely wrong. Decided to take my two home objectives turn one then stick everything down one side to hold one on each side of the board after that, but I mis-read his deployment (and also think I had memories of vanguard wing in the back of my head) and instead of ploughing into 30 libs which I could have taken, I went up against evocators and retributors and got my army taken off. Also was sloppy and pulled the evocators into combat when I didn't need to. Game 4: Stormcast again, I forget the scenario. My big mistake in this game was the same as I'd made a few times over the weekend, I saw an opportunity for a maw krusha to kill something, sent it off on it's own then got taken apart, instead of holding back till I can get everything in. This time it was a unit of dracolines, also failed a charge with the pigs because I'd kept them out of 8 when I didn't need the d3, but did need their bodies on an objective. You live and learn. Game 5 my opponent didn't turn up so I played another Ironjawz player! We played blood & glory, he had gordrakk and the ironfist, two warchanters and a fungoid. First turn was cagey and I think we both felt bad playing it like that, so I moved forward enough to give him a charge, but left the maw krushas covering each other, he used gordrakk to take one off, then I got up to +7 attacks and went back with everything else, taking out a huge chunk of his army. He rolled badly for a couple of combats and I could get around the board with charges to nab the objectives for a major at the very end of turn 5. Overall was a huge amount of fun, and ended up on over 6k kill points, not bad considering I wasn't including summoned units and I lost 4 games. I think if I'd been a bit more practised I could have won at least one more game so will definitely give the list another run out. No magic should be a big draw back, but I like not having anything to think about, and I don't think IJ do it well enough to focus on it, although I would be interested to try out a weirdfist.

Shadespire was two in the box, two two weeks later, and then two every quarter. Would imagine nightvault will be the same.

It is likely confusion over the fact that there will be a 40k Ork codex in the next couple of weeks

Weirdly Harry and Hastings have both mentioned Skaven models a long time ago so you would think that would mean models exist, and unless they've decided to scrap everything that a battletome would be a good time to release them, but who knows

good point about switching battalion, and yeah that's exactly the list! I have a realmgate sprayed and can get one of those done last minute so should be ok. I was assuming I'd need all the extra movement I could get, hence bloodtoofs. Would you say I'm better off going for the aetherquartz brooch or the ethereal amulet?

that's reassuring! Thanks, also means a couple of extra points free to turn a unit of pigs back into brutes

Right, I've - perhaps ill advisedly - started an ironjawz army for blood & glory. As I have 10 weeks left, and (almost) one unit of brutes painted I need to think about minimizing painting time, especially as I'm not a particularly fast painter. I was thinking of going bloodtoofs with double MBMK, and ironfist, but even if I can fit the cogs in to that, I wouldn't be able to afford anyone to cast it. Is it feasible to run that sort of list without the cogs? I don't really want to get slapped about all weekend as I'm hoping to enjoy IJ enough to want to return to them after that weekend. Any other suggestions for painting un-intensive lists and not completely impotent lists greatly received

Coming from @Moonstone is good enough for me, he's had solid info in the past

If your only concern is playing a 'top three' army then you need to be prepared to buy into whatever faction you feel falls under that scope, or play a different game, because with AoS there is always going to be the possibility that your army won't get touched (outside of the GHB) for 7+ years, or possibly even ever again. I think the way GW have positioned themselves with AoS is so that they have an incredibly broad range to draw from with all the tiny factions, so they can very easily respond to demand. If they do a small faction release and see a good response to it, they can revisit it in c.2 years, if not they can never touch it again and work on something completely new. AoS2 has been out for slightly over 2 months at this point, during which time we have had two new army releases, we also had 3 big releases in the run up to the new edition, whereas usually releases stall so to say that AoS is not being supported is the most bonkers backwards thing I have ever heard. While it really felt like 40k dominated last year, they haven't had a substantial army release since primaris marines & death guard so I certainly wouldn't blame GW for taking a couple of months to redress that balance. Have we become so spoilt by new GW that we're demanding constant previews of big new army releases? It wouldn't feel amiss to me if we didn't get anything else before Xmas (I think we will though), especially as that's historically a quieter time for army releases