HollowHills

Real monsters have a 2+ save 😎

Not really the place for detailed Idoneth chat, but I will say this and add a rumour to it. 1) It has been a feature of AoS 3rd that subfactions provide lesser benefits than previously and these benefits are more specific and flavourful. 2) The played Idoneth enclaves from 1.0 all gave variations on reroll hits or wounds of 1. This was never going to stay in place with the new design philosophy. 3) These previews always tell us very little about the ultimate competitive standing of an army. 4) Playtesters and team captains have been promoting playing Idoneth with a focus on sharks as a strong competitive option. Most regulars know I am a diehard Idoneth player and interested in competitive play. I'm not worried. Please trust x

I'd say not to worry. Things are going to be ok 😊

My rumour was truuuuuuue.

I'm not complaining. I don't mind at all. I just don't see it as a particularly interesting rule from a competitive standpoint.

This is kinda eh. Leviadons do an OK amount of damage, have good support (mostly the save bonus maybe the nemarti hit bonus is worth) and very good survivability Vs normal wounds with poor Vs mortals. I don't really see how taking more than one is desirable unless they've significantly changed. Especially if, as I have been led to believe, you can get battleline sharks in another enclave.

I've only read one Black Library book "The Court of the Blind King" and it was utter trash. Not in the way I expected, I was ready for it to be pulpy nonsense. My issue was that it flat out ignored and contradicted all the established Idoneth lore and just made them into super generic dark elves.

I'm hoping we see the tides table and some news on forgotten nightmares for Idoneth. High tide is one of the most powerful allegiance abilities that they've ever made. Forgotten nightmares is niche, but with the number of shooting units in the meta also has potential to be very potent. Im fully expecting an A or S tier tome based on playtesters and competitive teams preparing for summer events.

"We aren't immune to inflation" - Company making inflation worse by raising their own prices.

At least I can buy from next payday!

Chance they will toss out fyreslayers and Idoneth for pre order next week. We've had some eldar previews but they still haven't shown any craftworlds or Ynnari stuff. Or it's codex Aeldari and they do the rules previews for craftworlds and Ynnari this week?

The Eidolons of Mathlann are a bit like the Yncarne in Ynnari armies. Basically using the soul energy of dead elves to summon a powerful entity than represents their god. Except for Ynnari their god hasn't been born, whereas with Idoneth he's dead. It would be interesting if they gave Idoneth a plot to restore Mathlann as a way of defending themselves from chaos / Teclis. I'm guessing they think that is too similar to the DoK / Eldar stories though. It would be nice for Idoneth to have more of a narrative than just hunting for souls.

Are GW moving away from endless spells or just shitting on my army in particular? Notice that Warclans didn't get any even with the Kruelboyz range update.

It's just custom scenery they make for box shots when they do the FOMO boxes. Kinda sad.

DoK new book isn't going to be as good (playtesters are moving away from them), Idoneth are going to be good. Anyway, yay book. Sad that this seems to be confirmation of no new models.

I am quite hype for some eldar stuff. I'd like to make a fluffy Ynnari corsairs army with some conversions. Even if they are trash rules wise it would be a fun project. But I do wish we'd know what's going on with Idoneth.

Both armies are popular enough (if you look at player surveys and tournament stats) that GW can justify selling books for each. I don't think they want to soup armies where you can comfortably sell two books.

I'm sure we will get a crab or crabs for the Deepkin at some point. I'm just not sure it's going to be this soon. Like someone mentioned with Nighthaunt above, I'm sure there are a ton of Deepkin designs that didn't make it into the launch but are kept on file for future.

IDK and DoK aren't getting souped.

Ah ok. I guess they are making it a common element between some of the aelfy cultures.

Wow ****** me for playing Idoneth right. Toss me a FOMO hero and weird unit update then don't announce my book. Optimist me says it's because we're getting something more than just a book. Realist me says it's because GW hate my army. Also poor DoK players, two FOMO boxes in little over a year. The new character is cool though, I wonder if she has Idoneth armour in lore that she got from fighting them / with them. The paint scheme is the same as the GW Idoneth armour and doesn't match the normal colours for DoK.

@Whitefang come react to things x

So do we think Idoneth and Dwarf soup announcement with no new models / spells / terrain plus nighthaunt with a new hero? Or are they delaying Idoneth and Dwarfs for some reason?

I have to say I'm overwhelmed by the responses and comments to this post. I wasn't sure when I wrote it if I should. It's heartwarming to see how more inclusive and accepting our hobby has become ☺️