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Rules question - Veil of Illusions (each hit/crit or total from a attack action)


elvonndcloud

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Hi - sorry if this has been asked but i did a search and couldnt find an answer. 

Looking at the artefact of power - Veil of Illusions - "Subtract 2 from the damage allocated by hits and critical hits (to a minimum of 1) from attack actions that target the bearer"

First glance it looks like it subtracts from each hit and crit,  that seems quite frustrating to play agaisnt (end up with a lot of 1s) but re-reading it does say BY hits/crit FROM attack actions. Im not sure if you allocate all damage at once in this game at the end - either way it doesnt seem to definitive. 

Has anyone smarter then me looked into this, not sure how to play or explain it, im sure the question will come up again.

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I found this on a more recent thread dealing with a similar ability.

Q: Some rules add to or subtract from the damage points allocated by each hit or critical hit from an attack action. In cases like this, does this apply to every hit and every critical hit scored by that attack action?
A: Yes.

that really boggled my mind for a bit there.

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While the FAQ answers the question for many abilities, there are some (like the above) that do not use the language "for each".

I believe that means that it only applies once for the entire attack action as the FAQ specifically calls out "for each" which many abilities have, while this and some other abilities omit the "for each" language. This is either sloppy inconsistent writing or an intended difference.

The above ability does indeed seem broken if it applied to each hit/crit (as does the Gitz Sneaky Stab) and I assume they deliberately left out the words "for each" to bring them in line.

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On 9/5/2019 at 4:35 PM, elvonndcloud said:

Hi - sorry if this has been asked but i did a search and couldnt find an answer. 

Looking at the artefact of power - Veil of Illusions - "Subtract 2 from the damage allocated by hits and critical hits (to a minimum of 1) from attack actions that target the bearer"

First glance it looks like it subtracts from each hit and crit,  that seems quite frustrating to play agaisnt (end up with a lot of 1s) but re-reading it does say BY hits/crit FROM attack actions. Im not sure if you allocate all damage at once in this game at the end - either way it doesnt seem to definitive.

The wording is identical to the Gloomspite Gitz Sneaky Stab, which is clearly intended to apply once per attack action rather than once per hit/critical hit.

They should have said "total damage points allocated" to be more clear.

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