Fading Vigour vs Voice of Gork

[Dmuerto]

If a wizard casts Fading Vigour (-1 to hit and roll only single die for charge) to a unit and then next turn Gordrakk casts Voice of Gork (+2 to attacks and 3 dice to charge) to a unit, which effect takes the stand?

[BaldoBeardo]

6 hours ago, Dmuerto said:

If a wizard casts Fading Vigour (-1 to hit and roll only single die for charge) to a unit and then next turn Gordrakk casts Voice of Gork (+2 to attacks and 3 dice to charge) to a unit, which effect takes the stand?

Both. The unit gain +2A and -1tH.

With regard to charge distance, the effects are absolutes, not modifiers. So it's not "one less charge dice and one more charge dice", it's "roll not more than 1 but not less than 3".

There's no precedence, no trump - you roll off to see which ability wins in the charge phase (unless you both agree to "2" - which is nicer but frankly a little wimpy and not very evocative)

[Somanlius]

20 hours ago, BaldoBeardo said:

Both. The unit gain +2A and -1tH.

With regard to charge distance, the effects are absolutes, not modifiers. So it's not "one less charge dice and one more charge dice", it's "roll not more than 1 but not less than 3".

There's no precedence, no trump - you roll off to see which ability wins in the charge phase (unless you both agree to "2" - which is nicer but frankly a little wimpy and not very evocative)

Because the effects of abilities are chosen in order by whoever's turn it is wouldnt  the player whos charge phase it is get to choose the order of effects? Like "fading vigor activates and then Voice of gork, so they get 3 dice for the charge"?

[BaldoBeardo]

56 minutes ago, Somanlius said:

Because the effects of abilities are chosen in order by whoever's turn it is wouldnt  the player whos charge phase it is get to choose the order of effects? Like "fading vigor activates and then Voice of gork, so they get 3 dice for the charge"?

No, resolution of abilities is player choice, not application of effects. Both have already been resolved and are in effect prior to the charge phase.