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  1. DantePQ

    AoS 2 - Idoneth Deepkin Discussion

    Melee Alpha Strike list doesn't do much, as against decent player you will be eating screen and being counter charged, sometimes it is ok to be counter charged but Morssar are horrible when counter charged.
  2. DantePQ

    Daughters of Khaine Alliances

    I think Tidecaster is amazing secondary spellcaster for DoK as well as New SCE Knight-Incantor, spellcaster is slightly more expensive then Sorceress but spell got +2'' range and D3MW instead of 1 , and Knight-Incantor autounbid is worth it for a secondary mage to cast endless spell/mystic shield. Also both have better survivality then Sorceress. But I think those 3 are best option for different spellcaster.
  3. DantePQ

    AoS 2 - Idoneth Deepkin Discussion

    Ok missed that part with King (but still that unit need to be 12'' from the Tidecaster and once Tidecaster general is dead whole ability is useless), but still Ishlaen were the best unit in the whole battletome, as not only their ability was great - it enabled many different tactical moves and really worked wonders with Tides and cover abilities/spells. But I could see why it was changed (if those changes are real) with Leviadon, Abyssal Darkness (along with Vortex for example), different mechanics with -1 to hit and new mystic shield it was very easy to have 3+ save with re-rolls of 1 on 24-36W unit that ignores rend. Changes to Reavers could be just a mistake as it's a number change, but abilites are well written and make a lot of sense considering AoS 2.0 mechanics.
  4. DantePQ

    AoS 2 - Idoneth Deepkin Discussion

    not even close, both command abilities are general only (so in matched play only one particular Tidecaster could use it) and are pretty good (but they cost Command Points and Deepkin could be forced to use Inspiring Presence here and there) but Ishlaen nerf would make any battle much more difficult - also it would be hard to hide heavy Morssar builds from harm.
  5. DantePQ

    Daughters of Khaine Alliances

    If any I would consider few things : - new SCE spellcaster Knight-Incantor with autuunbid is amazing - 3+ save, decent spell (but will be used to cast it or mystic shield anyway) but autounbid is great. Also spirit flasks could be useful - Ishlaen Guards from Deepkins (of course if their warscroll isn't changed) 280 points for 24 wounds with 4+ unrendable save is amazing to sit on some objective or tarpit enemy (when they have 3+) cast mystic shield on them and they would find a place in any army and DoK could surely use such unit. - Lord Aquilor + 3 Vanguard Palladors - now they fit into allies and they open some possibilites but surely 400 pts is a touch too much to fit them competitive wise. For sure I will playtest those 3 options ( Palladors only because I love models but maybe they will surprise me).
  6. DantePQ

    AoS 2 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion

    I read through all warscrolls - I didn't see any changes.
  7. DantePQ

    AoS 2 - Idoneth Deepkin Discussion

    Sure it could be misprints but they could be part of big Errata who knows? Also Tidecaster ability is strong but its on 2+ it's one Tide higher or lower and only if Tidecaster is a general. Kings also have to be Generals to use CA. Also change to Reavers doesn't make any sense and makes Tidecaster being a General pretty bad. So if the changes are indeed true I see only two builds to work : Volturns/King Morssar Spamm Tidecaster General Thrall spam (crazy strong with new pile in and Tidecaster ability to High Tide from turn 2)
  8. DantePQ

    AoS 2 - Idoneth Deepkin Discussion

    Also that changes to Kings and Tidecaster are very much in line with AoS 2.0 mechanics and if they are true, change to Ishlaen is true as well.
  9. DantePQ

    AoS 2 - Idoneth Deepkin Discussion

    All those changes are pretty cool, but change Ishlaen is horrible and makes them nowhere near Morssar. Waht's worse it makes Deepkin a lot worse, as Ishlaen were amazing to shield units turn 1 or sit on objective make it hard to capture.
  10. DantePQ

    AoS 2 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion

    Yeah surely, but in other words she's perfect counter charge hero. Still as I said she opens up many tactical moves which are exclusive to her. Sure on the paper she might not be worth it but I think it takes a lot of time to master using her and when used wisely she is awesome.
  11. DantePQ

    AoS 2 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion

    From Artefacts Shadowmirror and Lens of Reflection are amazing on HaggNarr General Considering Morathi @Richelieu made some great points and there is even more : - you can advance her up the board and tarpit big parts of opponent army - ability to tarpit almost anything when needed - also you can advance her into enemy territory and then next turn blast some endless spells into enemy lines (sure you will be in unbid range but it could be huge bonus in certain situations. - she is out more mobile hero and likely candidate to be in range to use new CA in new edition on units deep into enemy territory. I've used her as a spellcaster early on and then counter charge with monster form, surely it is all match-up dependant as sometimes you want to tarpit enemy army and sometimes it would be risky no to change her. In new edition it's even more difficult choice (and it's a good thing) with two 30'' +1 unbinds (not to mention some arcane terrain bonus)
  12. DantePQ

    AoS 2 - Idoneth Deepkin Discussion

    I think Soulscryer is great and does a little bit of everything : - ability to use him really makes your opponent rethink deployment whenever you are smart enough, usually with that many drops in no-battalion armies you can benefit from sole ability to force opponent to deploy in certain way - ability to charge first turn could be valuable but Deepkin Alpha strikes with Morssar are usually horrbile for one reason only - high level competitive players will not allow it or shield crucial unit and Morssar when counter-charged are really bad (they are much worse then other alpha strike hammers like Kurnoth Hunters for example) BUT Tidecaster General ability help a lot as you can charge and then use High Tide turn two. Also most of alpha strikes suffer because of screen and Deepkin has no mechanics to take care of screen before charge. - you can hold on for example 10 Reavers and Soulscryer as a objective takers - that's how I use him in many games, as you can go out of reverse and punish bad deployment of enemy or objectives that aren't guarded sufficiently, Reavers are perfect for that role,especially with some Tides (as you know during which Tide you want to deploy them) also it keeps opponent on their toes whole game and could give you some openings to exploit. - extra ritual boost - could be really important in certain situations.
  13. DantePQ

    AoS 2 - Idoneth Deepkin Discussion

    Ok so another game with AoS2 with Deepkins my army (with all correct points value) Ionarch Tidecaster + General + Coral Ring + Abyssal Darkness + Emissary of Dark Places Tidecaster + Tide of Fear Spellweaver Endless Spell : Balewind Vortex, Aethervoid Pendulum Soulscryer 30 Thralls 2x10 Reavers 2x6 Ishlaen Guard 6 Morssar Played against Sylvaneth Gnarlroot but without Alarielle, it was a tough win for me , Aethervoid Pendulum was amazing against Sylvaneth and with 3rd turn Tide (as I elected not to Reverse Tides) it was easy to keep in check so it didn't harm me. Also it's my third game with that rooster and couple of points : 30 Thralls are really good, they are a threat can bunker on objectives (as with all debuffs you can easily do this) , also it's easy to use them as bait - as they look like easy target for some armies. Against Sylvaneth they were very good taking on 6 Scythe Hunters and killing them over 2-3 combat rounds. Also Tharlls are pretty amazing against W4 infantry - they were great against Kurnoths and Blightkings, Morssar charged into second hunter units and got stucked and after they didn't clear them first turn they were pretty useless. Reavers are good as well, they are mobile can fill some roles - chaff, screen, take objectives, also they are great hunting small heroes as they are deadly at close range against W5-6 heroes, so majority of opponents will have hard time taking care of Ishlaen Guard, Thralls and Morssar so Reavers have more room to operate. I really like them.
  14. DantePQ

    AoS 2 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion

    Yep it's a list I have been using for 2 months now, awesome to play and really a lot of tools to deal with almost anything AoS can throw at you. But know I will be taking Spellmirror or Lens of Reflection on General to make that bubble even more powerful.
  15. DantePQ

    AoS 2 - Idoneth Deepkin Discussion

    I don't really care by list is alive just had to scrap one endless spell that wasn't even necessary
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