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  1. I think that the GS is fine as it is now. Maybe a point adjustment in summer in GH. But I don't see it OP. For me, the cost is right (except if you spam him). 4 of him in a GS, give you close (or even more) to the 9 fate points to get a free LoC in addition to 4*10 pink (and thus 200+16 free wounds) T1.  You still have 1000 points to spend for your core army. LOL.

    Back to destiny dice: Do I have to declare that I use one (or more) DD BEFORE rolling something or after seeing the dice rolls (and replace the failed ones by a DD)?

  2. Whatever you do, those armies are set to cost you around 350 to 500 eur. This is the GW business plan. Some are a bit more (or way more). Some are a bit less (and -rarely- way less). If you want a new  army on sprue with a lower cost, the only way is big boxes (dual armies box, start collecting and battleforce). Even with that you fall into the 350/500€. But sometimes, it is worth it: my last example: karadron army: bough 3 aether war sold 3 DoT halves (cost= 153€), sold 2 enrrimaster with balloon and 2 gunhaulers (got back 105€) then bough 2 SC and a Ironclad (and the warband with khermist).

    Total cost 240€ for:

    1 enrimaste balloon + 8 * 3  balloon guys + 3 gunhaulers + 10 thunderers + Ironclad + 2 enrimasters + warband with khermist. (I plan to sell 2*3 balloon guys to get for free the remaining HQ). (total is more than 2500pts) So, if you are not in a hurry, you can build armies at reasonable cost.

  3. 33 minutes ago, Sinfullyvannila said:

    Too many other good leaders for the new magister to shine since you can only ever bring 6.

    That is the problem a a rich army: too many things to choose from lol. 

    Don't glue the magister to its disc: magnet it. Thus, you have a magister that can me on foot or on disc: the foot one is used more frequently.   (cheaper)

  4. Many things lead to this: 40K will have like AoS 2.0, just an updated/enhanced previous version, a realease to consolidate rules , tips and centralize informations. Most often called v8.5 (and not v9). The Current AoS, called 2.0 is closer to a AoS 1.5.

    Then, the next 18 month or so are dedicated to update all the codex like AoS did with battletomes. 

    Of course, in the middle of all of that, we have some new things and even fresh armies.

  5. 13 minutes ago, Forrix said:

    The lack of a new demon prince kit is one of the things holding me back from getting into STD.

    The demon prince is not that bad IRL with somany options, especially when you have plenty of bits from, for example, the spawns. And don't make yourself miss the StD range for this (bad) reason: there are so many nice kits in StD!

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  6. 6 minutes ago, Grimrock said:

    I play slaves, khorne, nurgle, tzeentch and slaanesh and honestly none of the previewed rules excited me. I'm hoping that the rest of the rules will make them a bit more interesting, but I find it hard to believe that, in an article that's supposed to build excitement, they somehow managed to pick out the least exciting rules from every single sub faction. A pretty big bummer that they glazed over the combined daemon allegiance and the best thing they could come up with was to buy 700 dollars of models that have absolutely no synergy with eachother whatsoever.

    StD and Tzeentch here (and skaven that have been zapped from this "all players of chaos "book). Same as you. Not particularly enthusiast except maybe for the varanguard thing and....that's it. For (half)fun (or half competitive), I hoped that we could eventually , for example, put a heavy hitter greater daemon in a tzentch army (which one? khorne one? or slanesh one?) just because I like the big guys but I don't want to start a new army. Same for StD to add those big minis.

    I'll wait until the full scope, but the hype has lowered a bit. 

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  7. 33 minutes ago, Charleston said:

    Maybe the Gargant-Faction is about to become a Chaos one (althrough it would be weird as Destruction really needs more love)?

    HOPE: sons of behemat/gargants remain as the current  gargant kit: available both for destruction and chaos

    FEAR : GW start to think and sh.......t  happen.

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  8. 7 minutes ago, Nezzhil said:

    After 6 years of Stormcast only we welcome anything other than Stormcast.

    Let's not exagerate, AoS only exists for 4.5 years 😉 

    I hope that this book gives some opportunities to Nurgle and BoC.  And to be honnest, if there are some cross over synergies between some chaos armies, I'm in!

    Maybe in the future we have some similar books for Destruction, death & order (well, CoS  already  kinda does this). I bet that the son of behemat will do something with destruction armies.

  9. 4 minutes ago, LordPrometheus said:

    I can't believe people are already crying about Tzeentch and the book has only been out 2 weeks. Slaanesh double depravity  nonsense is STILL a thing

    Indeed, but it had already been a little nerfed with depravity cost increase in the latest FAQ (december).

    Tzeentch is nice but I think it need some clarifications and adjustments on (very) few points. This is a really good battletome as it doesn't copy/paste the usuals builds of other factions. More of this, it adds some crossing synergies with StD making a super rich tome with various range of minis from daemons to mortals and tzangors...

    I bet that it'll be even richer with the upcoming tome next week (everchoosen).

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  10. 1 hour ago, simakover said:

    So we are waiting nerf of tzeentch? Without devastating units changehost and super defensive horrors tzeentch already dominate meta. That do you think?

    I'm not waiting a nerf tbh: Im more likely to wait some clarifications and confirmations before investing some more bucks into miniatures that I don't want to be stuck on the shelves. 1)  LoC summoning (can Kairos be summoned) &  2) pink horrors summoning + point cost. That's all for me. I like this new battletome full of resources and with synergies with StD. As a non competitive player, Changehost is just the cherry on a (already delicious) cake.

  11. 5 hours ago, Reezark_SP said:

    Thanks bud I appreciate that! My lists that got lost in discussions are either not Tzeentch lists or I've since been playing them to the point where I don't really need advise on them.

    HOWEVER! Since you're offering your help I'll share my Guild of Summoners list that I've been messing with :D. At the moment I think GoS best suits my current Tzeentch collection but personally I'm more excited to eventually run Eternal Conflagration/Changehost and Pyrofane Cult/Wytchfire Coven. once I get more Flamers and Acolytes.
     

    I suppose this list is a little unconventional because I don't have Kairos Fateweaver and I'm not ready to get another $140 model but I do have 2 regular LoC which I think I can rely on having 1 on the first turn and both by the 3rd turn.

    Curseling (General)
    Prophet of the Ostensible
    Glimpse the Future

    The Changeling
    Treason of Tzeentch

    Tzaangor Shaman
    Brimstone Familiar
    Shield of Fate

    The Blue Scribes
    Tzeentch's Firestorm

    Gaunt Summoner
    Arcane Suggestion

    Gaunt Summoner
    Unchecked Mutation

    Battleline:
    Tzaangors x20

    Kairic Acolytes x10

    Kairic Acolytes x10

    Other:
    Tzaangor Enlightened on Discs x6

    Endless Spells:
    Balewind Vortex

    Obviously the Gaunt Summoners will each bring with them a unit of 10 Pink Horrors. Thats 13 spells on turn 1 I should be able to cast and then 17 from turn 2+ so I can expect to get those big birds out early and they will have Bolt of Change. 

    Changeling hangs with the foot Tzaangors and gives whatever  they fight -1 to hit. The Tzaangor Shaman supports Tzaangors and Enlightened even further by giving them immunity to battleshock.

    The Blue Scribes sit on top of the Balewind Vortex so he can cast his warscroll spell and give all my wizards rerolls to cast and still cast another spell, such as Tzeentch's Firestorm, an endless spell, or a spell that he's learned over the course of the game.

    If anything I might drop the Curseling. I'll still have a decent chance at getting 9 fate points on turn 1 without him and then I'll have enough room for Gemenids, Purple Sun, and Pendulum, which might serve me better in the long run.

    It is almost my exact list posted few pages ago, except than I put kairos+gaunt at start in place of 2 gaunt, for only TWO reasons:

    - I'm waiting the errata/faq before investing in another 10pink/2blues/1gaunt (and I don't really like the horrors minis, prefering mostly the tzaangors)

    - I love the big bird: kairos. But if the FAQ tells (=read CONFIRM) us that it can be summoned via guild of summoners (can summona LORD of CHANGE units!!!), then maybe I'll go the 2 gaunt route. Not sure. I like the spawn summoning of magister and kairos when they kill units...

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  12. 3 hours ago, NJohansson said:

    RAW you most certainly can:

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    Compare to the regular summoning text where it is said “Lord of Change”.  Kairos is not a Lord of Change but he most certainly has the LORD OF CHANGE key word.

    very nice catch mmimzie - I missed it completely and will definitely try this.

    Good catch in deed.

    But Kairos being a named character, be aware that you can only have one one the battlefield...

    That is interesting because If you start with a LoC (in place of kairos) you loose one spelll but you gain a nice CA and the possibility to put some relic & co on the LoC...I'll think about it.

  13. 2 hours ago, whiskeytango said:

    SC box with Arkhan in it, so it not unusual for it to happen 

    For its defense, to mortarchs are a triple kit FULLY SWITCHABLE without magnets! and the riders are dualkits fully switchable from NH to Skelletons (without magnets too). This is one of if not THE best SC out there (will buy a third one soon).

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