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2 minutes ago, robinlvalentine said:
is the last Warcry warband
And the 2 other big fellas
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Has someone plaid Archaon at 800pts since battletome dropped? Successfully?
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Ok. I got it. What's about the other questions? (I copy/paste them again)
I noticed that the gaunt summoner is....NOT in the book, only the gaunt summoner on disc! That is strange. And that make him super expensive (260pts?). I know that kinda includes the cost of the summoned unit but it is not cheap.
Speaking about him:
- what is the best unit to summon? is there one that is far superior to others?
10 Pink Horrors
10 Bloodletters
10 Plaguebearers
10 Daemonettes
6 Furies- is there some other way to summon something in StD army?
- pink horrors: are they any good? they are wizzards, they only cast "Arcane Bolt and Mystic Shield spells" ? they can't summon some other pink or ES?
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9 minutes ago, kenshin620 said:34 minutes ago, GeneralZero said:
- I've read in the pink horror warscroll that "Chaos Wizards know the Summon Pink
Horrors spell, in addition to any others they know." Can we spam it? (once per turn, that means 10*Xturns of pinks? All my chaos wizzard can do this (example: wizzard on manticore, daemon prince etc...)?You're looking at an old warscroll. At the start of AoS, wizards could summon daemons (and yes seraphon can summon themselves) but that was an Open Play rule/reinforcement point thing.
Those rules no longer exist as AoS 2.0 made summoning "free" (doesn't cost matched play points).
I don't understand what you mean: the warscroll was not only the one I just downloaded from GW shop UK but also the one on the GW French shop . Both say the very same thing in English AND in French. (copied above).
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I noticed that the gaun summoner is....NOT in the book, only the gaunt summoner on disc! That is strange. And that make him super expensive (260pts?). I know that kinda includes the cost of the summoned unit but it is not cheap.
Speaking about him:
- what is the best unit to summon? is there one that is far superior to others?
10 Pink Horrors
10 Bloodletters
10 Plaguebearers
10 Daemonettes
6 Furies- is there some other way to summon something in StD army?
- I've read in the pink horror warscroll that "Chaos Wizards know the Summon Pink
Horrors spell, in addition to any others they know." Can we spam it? (once per turn, that means 10*Xturns of pinks? All my chaos wizzard can do this (example: wizzard on manticore, daemon prince etc...)?- pink horrors: are they any good? they are wizzards, they only cast "Arcane Bolt and Mystic Shield spells" ? they can't summon some other pink or ES?
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So, they go the 40k route, a global point reduction, a global increase on miniatures counts (good for their business), confirming a unsurprising power creep.
Ok. They at least tried to balance things at mid career of GHB2019.
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Any idea to do/kitbash a Chaos Lord that stands out a bit vs a chaos warrior? The one at GW is meh and I don't want to buy another failcast...
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I was afraid it'd be worse than this! I think they fit well together, especially when mixed and scattered on the battlefield. No worry here, then. 👍
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33 minutes ago, Malakithe said:
Could always convert or use other models like Bloodreavers or the warcry guys. I think thats what most people will end up doing.
It's not only about marauder. It is also the fact that those soooooo iconic units Warriors & Knights are not the center of our best builds. Knights are ok. Warriors are super resilient but really lack in damage. And are expensive.
TBH, the last year battleforce is really what I wanted to see on the battlefield. Nobody's speaking about the charriot. I like this piece of plastic. It seems a bit expensive (in pts). Too bad I got 3 of those dudes. lol
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It is really sad that the ugliest, oldest and most hated miniatures, in a range of wonderful other monsters and even updated ones (knights, warriors, lord...) are -according to consensus here - the best units of StD book. I am, unfortunately, speaking about -shame on me - the marauders.
PS: I don't want to buy some. I'll try my best without them.
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1 hour ago, sal4m4nd3r said:
Archaon 800
2 xChaos knights - 360
2 xChaos Knights -360
1 x Varanguard - 300
Chaos Lord Sorceror 110
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Maybe I'go with only one "2 xChaos knights - 360" and one "1 xChaos knights - 180" and replace the sorceror with a sorceror on manticore or a gaunt sumoner on disc. this way, you hit harder and get more mobility. the key of this list I think is the ultra mobility with each unit suffice to itself and hit hard. The main problem will be screening and/or objectives (so few units/miniatures)
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So, according to new book, is there a way to make a (almost) competitive list WITHOUT the marauders? don't like them. Want knights/warriors/chariots (got 3) varanguards and mounted guys (on monsters)
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30 minutes ago, HollowHills said:
Overall my initial thoughts would be to take lots of marauders and buff them up with rerolls and fighting twice (from vanilla lord on foot). You could even do this by taking those units in a nurgle army with the glottkin for extra fun.
Before initial thoughts, there is the pre-initial thought which is "don't take anything before you get a better scope of the whole thing". We don't have yet the bataillons, relic, stuffs that synergize the army etc... But I just bought the new SC and the ES just because I want them to modernize my StD army (and I want this new chaos lord on beast)
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Slaughterbrute & mutalith...what do you think? Lack some rend but they are beasts, aren't they?
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2 minutes ago, Kaleb Daark said:3 minutes ago, Kaleb Daark said:
Where is my chaos gargant???
Indeed.
maybe the rumoured AoS imperial knight giant army will give us a chaos tainted option or perhaps he’s in the points list.
I found it ...but unfortunatly he's in beast of chaos. What a shamme! He looks so damn good in a chaos StD army!
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Well, for marauders, I think that the best fits are:
- bloodreavers with marauder-like shields
- Kairic Acolytes (but change shields or heads)
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Where is my chaos gargant???
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No more car mammoth
And more suprising: no more chaos gargant 😕
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GW in the comunity article said Archaon+3*3 varanguards + gaunt summoner in 2K list...(maybe with some additional things: ES, bataillon, ... who knows). If it is so, that also means that both units went up in power.
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19 minutes ago, JangutzKhan said:
Depending on which is better wrt warscrolls, I’ll probs be going spire tyrants as my marauders
You don't get me: I'd play accolytes AS marauders ! And if you want to go further, just replace the shields and the paint scheme so they look more barbarians/marauders (shields from skeletons for example)
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I'll probably use the kayric acolites (DoT) as marauders. They are far better looking and can be used in both StD and DoT.
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14 minutes ago, Carnelian said:
5 armies! 😍
Technically more than 20 armies: each army you are refering to has 4 subfactions, plus one we can call "soup" !😋
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1 hour ago, Overread said:
Then again Slaves to Darkness is almost a Grand Alliance army in all but name since they can, practically, draw models from the whole Grand Alliance save for Skaven
....and it is a good point for me. Like a CoS for Chaos gods. That what I was waiting for!
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4 minutes ago, sal4m4nd3r said:
Yup I was happy to see that for sure! When I said usable.. I didn't mean ability to put on the table. I really meant competitively viable. I have far lower hopes for that haha. I love the model, have one exquisitely painted that sits in my case at home most of the time.
I get you. I hope the same for several other entries, like the slaughterbrute, the mutalith, the chaos gargant, etc... I think that if we look at the recent releases (ogors, OBR, ...) GW did a relatively nice job making most of the units payable. Some are just a bit above the others but rarely super OP. So, I hope the same for the StD. (But I don't care about the Soul Grinder because I just hate the miniature lol. It doesn't really fit Fantasy nore 40K...Well, just my taste...;-) )
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AoS 2 - Slaves to Darkness 2 Discussion
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Nice shot, @Spears, but not sure that the varangard should be on this base lol 😜 . I'm looking forward to assembling mines (from my giant pile of shame 🙄 )