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12 minutes ago, peasant said:
You nailed It! The problem with plaguebearers even at 50 pts wont work. I suffered a Game against bonereapers and plaguebearers and Guo was a joke
Same experience dude. nagash, 10 horsies and 20 skellies and plaguebearers have zero response. They're on 32mm bases, they're 120pts for 10. Make them -1 to hit in combat base, -2 if 20+. -2 to shooting base. The whole nurgle thing is resilience. Give them 3+/5+- even then they'd be only similar to pheonix guard, and without their damage output!
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1 hour ago, Grimrock said:
Well it's not like the Lord of Blights is only there for the plaguebearers, he's there for the Blight Cyst. It's like I said, it depends if your opponent has a counter to it or not. When my opponent doesn't have a counter the plaguebearers can tie up far more than one unit. In one game I've had them tie up almost an entire army for 2 full rounds by charging the front line units first turn and forcing the slower units to work their way around the blob. That's really rare these days though, usually armies either have access to enough magic to burn them down below 20 models in one phase or enough buffs/mortal wounds to not care about the -2 to hit. The frequency of the counters have become high enough that I wouldn't really bother with them anymore, but they definitely had a place at one point.
Maybe if the universal locus in the new book gives all daemons rend -1 or something they might be more viable? If it stays the same as the wrath of the everchosen book (reduce enemy rend by 1) they're definitely going to need a few buffs or a huge price decrease to be viable.
I mean i still love Nurgle, it's just they don't have any of the tools that would really help. The wheel is actually pretty powerful, more so than most allegiance abilities. But we don't have all the extra bits, and most of our units don't stand up. My initial Nurgle list included 2x30 PBs, so i definitely agree they're good!
I think there's an opportunity to really put Nurgle narrative into the rules- make them more resilient, make the weapons feel like they're absolutely filthy and contaminated with plague.- 3
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17 hours ago, Grimrock said:
I think the big thing about the plaguebearers is the -1 to hit in combat and -2 to hit for shooting that could be doubled up with the Lord of Blights command ability. It made a pretty significant difference for the first few months of the battletome and was particularly difficult for most armies to deal with. After that however a number of armies started getting rerolls to hit and bonuses started triggering on unmodified 6's, which pretty much killed the plaguebearers on site. The modifiers are still good in the right matchup, but they're very polarizing. Either your opponent has no answer to the plaguebearers and they gum up the lines for 2-3 turns guaranteeing a win on scenario, or they do have an answer and then you might as well not even put them on the table. Plus they can be a pretty negative play experience, having your opponent rolling dice for half their army and hitting on 6's for 4 rounds of combat until they break below 20 models is super lame.
Right, but you'd want 30 PBs with LoB, costing 460 points to slow down 1 enemy unit, which PBs will never manage to take off the table. It's a huge cost and only worth it against a super-high cost unit.
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The biggest gap for me was seeing the warscrolls for Mortek Guard and Pheonix Guard comparing to plaguebearers. Pleaguebearers have zero damage output - terrible weapon profile and 32mm base size. Their "strength" of a 5+/5++ was decent at the time, but is now barely mentionable. Pheonix Guard have 4+/4++ for 10pts more for 10, with weapons that do serious damage. Mortek Guard are insanely powerful - again 10pts more for 10. Even if plaguebearers were half points cost, is there any particular strength to them? They slightly more resilient than the average battletine, maybe?
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Been going crazy on my Tzeenth- a tzaangor shaman done!
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Finished another character for this month, so i beat the target! Tzaangor Shaman.
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On 6/27/2020 at 3:29 PM, Ggom said:
Finished my goal for this month! Here are 3 Tzeentch Mortals to add to my small collection! I imagine they are skulking in the dark sewers and tunnels of some city, preparing the grounds for some eldritch ritual to call forth their patron deity. The cabalists differ in their interpretations of what will happen next - some think they will be elevated to paradise, some think they will be granted the power to undo past wrongs, and still others whisper apocryphal tidings of fire and ash.
A hint of things for next month - perhaps the Cabalists will raise more to their cause, either for sorcery or sacrifice. Or perhaps something greater comes, borne on great wings and bearing terrible wroth, to shatter the delusions of these flimsy mortals.
In other news - the silver tower acolyte sculpts are beautiful. Super dynamic. I also like having a female acolyte from Underworlds. I think it was a missed opportunity that the regular acolyte box is a sausage fest.
Love the shading, lovely limited palette and NMM on the gold and weapons!
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Hey tzeentchy peeps! I'm painting up a small mortal Tzeentch list because the models are amazing. Just finished some acolytes -
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I'm thinking of going Guild of Summoners as it fits the narrative background for this force, with acolyte and tzaangor units and perhaps using the Alter-Kin, Skyshoal or tzaangor coven- anyone have experience with these? I know they're not super competitive, but I'm more after a fun play experience with this force.
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1 hour ago, Kramer said:
Haha that wing was a tester. Luckily that bird has 3 more attempts in it. Couldn’t get it right. So now I’m trying with a different set of paints for the base.
first time using Model Color paints.
EDIT: i suck at daring to go bright. but it’s more to what I want from it. Now it’s o combine the pink and orange and I’m happy to build it up from it to white 😁
Second edit: .... just realised I should do my practice wings on the bottom 😞
Looking good! I'd also say a drybrush of something like a light blue over the whole wing helps make the colours blend even more and pop the colour!
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New Bad Dice podcast!!? Amazing!
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10 hours ago, Ggom said:
I finished another tzaangor, which puts me a little past the halfway mark as well! As a godawfully slow painter I set my sights low in terms of volume haha.
Pics!!!
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7 hours ago, Ggom said:
Wait we’re only halfway through the month right? Why does everyone sound like time is running out?
Because the end of the month creeps up on ya. Gotta get the heavy lifting in early!
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6 hours ago, Tommy said:
Great effect on the shield! So do you mostly use washes to let the shading come through?
Shield is just straight blending with glazes. The skin is more glazes on top, but leaving most of the airbrush shading coming through.
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More spam!
Finished 1 acolyte to test out the paint scheme. I like it! The last army being FEC, with lots of gore and blood, painting bright, colourful models is nice.
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Didn't think I'd get time to do a battleline unit as well but I now have a week off from work, so I've started on these Acolytes. I've started with a base shade using an airbrush of purple from below and a zenithal of flesh for the bodies, to be kept for all the skin. Then mid grey base for all parts and a little shading for the base to darken the edges.
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6 hours ago, Kramer said:
Getting some momentum here.
Ballista done, Crew blocked in except for the skin.
Lord arcanum on gryph charger about 60% done.Those are all pretty detailed models! Remember painting my first balistar and thinking "this thing is never going to end!". You got the Soul wars one or the easy to build ones? The later are even longer to paint with those bases!
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My dudes! I've sort of finished the magister! It's one of those paintjobs that i was pleased with until I took a photo! I'll come back to it by the end of the month to tidy up, but here it is anyway! I also used the chrome pen on the disc and staff! Big problem with it- fingerprint magnet like maaaad! I will try and clean it after it's had a day to properly dry, otherwise i will have to go over it agin.
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This month - 3 skyfires! Base shading done with airbrush. If these are quick, I might also try and do 10 tzaangors! Seems unlikely i'll get 3 empty days in a row as i did to do the Acolytes, but fingers crossed!