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I believe the FB community responses have been deleted regarding this?
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2 hours ago, grucha said:
What do you think about my "Thriceshold befoulment" list? Should I go less drones and pick more plaguebearers instead of Warriors?
My immediate reaction is you need a daemon hero next to the drones for the locus, which means you'll need a GUO near it, which means (because of thricefold), you'd want all three together, which means you've got 1,480pts in one area on the table, perhaps unable to support the other units? Ive never played thricefold, so I'm not sure if that is how it is in practice. Also drones and GUO have massive base sizes, so keeping them near each other may be difficult!
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Hey all!
As part of our community building at Bad Moon, we've made a couple of videos about our community members and their armies (first one was Benjamin Savva's Daughters of Khaine - see it here).
A few weeks ago I finished the new one with Jamie Littler telling us about the inspiration behind his Skryre force. It's a beautifully painted army with some fun sources of inspiration!
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On 1/25/2020 at 3:44 PM, Ben said:
In December I payed out:
$330 USD to the site software hire and hosting
£50 GBPish to mail chimp for the email service
£25 GBP to Amazon AWS for the media hostingIncome from the site was:
1 fantastic sponsor for the month. £100 Thank you MINI MAG TRAY!
Donations in December - £0
Subscriptions in December - £40
The fact of the matter is that the AdSense ads have been up less than 12 hours at the time of typing and have produced £2.50 already. Over a full day, and over a year that's probably going to be £1500-2000. If ad Sense can bering in £5 a day then I will help towards the costs over the year. (annual costs expected to be £4-5000 in 2020)
I think everyone needs to move away from the idea that everything on the internet should be free. If this costs Ben money for us using it, we should be helping to pay, or else he's paying for us to enjoy the site and that's not ok. That's part of being a community. If we're happy to spend £500-800 on an army of plastic soldiers, £5 a month shouldn't be too much of a stretch.
I'm sure adverts are annoying but I bet Ben would like to go on a holiday to the Caribbean rather than pay hundreds for us to natter about warhammer. yet he's doing it.
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Some screenshots of the video of Teclis from other angles.
I wonder if it will be a dual kit, like the Magister of Hammerhal also being a lord-arcanum on Tauralon?
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Just now, TheVenerableBede said:
Unless this new one is way better than the Rotbringer Sorcerer. I mean, she should have the Rotbringer keyword so will be able to take Blades for one...
She might be! The rotbringers spell isn't that great, so depends what they give her!
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1 hour ago, 5kaven5lave said:
Surely it’s the new proxy Sorcerer? I know my finecast will never see the light of day once she’s out. Great model.
The staff on mine snapped off and the idea of pinning it back on is too much to bear. This chonker will be my new sorcerer fo sho.
24 minutes ago, 5kaven5lave said:Bit of creative basing and you can fit it on a 25mm I reckon. It’s an effort worth undertaking for that sculpt. Comes a close second in the hottest woman in AoS. Beaten only by the Troggoth Hag of course.
Sorcerer is on 32mm i think so should be easier.
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13 minutes ago, Sleboda said:
No apology needed (though appreciated). I'll be clear as well. I do buy most of my models to play the game(s). Some, though, I get just to paint. Plus, even the models I buy for gaming are rarely purchased based on their rules. I tend to get ideas for themes based on the lore, the look of the models, and/or some silly idea in my head (like doing a Nurgle+Slaanesh army with characters named after sexual diseases).
Do I get disappointed when the rules are awful (like old TK or current Khorne)? Sure I do! I just usually tend to find this out well after purchasing the army.
Incidentally, I bought several thousand points of Bonereapers before having read the rules. For once I got lucky! 😁😉
If you're actually into the hobby, buying for models is the only way to do it. Your "power" model may be squashed in the next faq/meta change/battletome update.
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2 minutes ago, Smooth criminal said:
I don't believe GW can balance the subfactions with point costs if they can't balance them at zero cost.
Also, I believe equally balancing all subfactions was never their goal.
Changing meta benefits GW but also makes for an interesting (albeit expensive) hobby!
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1 hour ago, Melcavuk said:
This is an interesting point of view, if we use the much talked about Petrifex elite suballegience here as a standpoint.
Mortek guard cost 130
Mortek guard with permanent +1 save cost 130
It's not quite that- Mortek Guard cost 130 with a choice of different additional allegiance abilities, one of which is +1 to save.
You point about allies is spot on, but then you make a choice on if those units are worth it without having allegiance abilities- bringing in a wizard in an army without one, or some shooting without one- that makes them worth it.
I guess I think this whole thing is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Points changes can balance things. If petrifex is too powerful, they can increase points for those units that particularly benefit from it.
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GW include the points cost for everything - summoning and allegiance traits - in the points cost for models. No point in paying twice. If you split the allegiance costs, it makes things even more complex. AoS is great because of it's simplicity- any increased complexity in points costs should be very carefully considered.
This doesn't address the point of "internal balance", but remember these books aren't made exclusively for the 1,000 competitive players in the world. They're made for the 100,000 casual players. Example- I'm building Cities and will be playing Hallowheart for probably all tournaments, but I'm buying a load of models that won't fit in Hallowheart because I want to play all the cities in casual games. Variety in allegiances, including some that aren't as competitive as others, is great for most of the players.
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2 minutes ago, Beastmaster said:
Maybe we have to face the fact that the AoS fluff works as a background for a miniature game, but not so well for relatable book stories (or RPGs, for that matter)?
At least a possibility. Not everything is good for everything.
Honestly I think it's a fantastic background. The realms are a nice original idea that make a lot of things possible narrative-wise. Azyr and Mallus are incredible ideas- the descriptions of Mallus in Soul Wars are incredible.
I think the issue is concentrating on SCE rather than anything else. In the Old World, the protagonists were elves, dwarfs and humans. They are comfortable tropes that allow us easy access to the fantasy setting.
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43 minutes ago, Icegoat said:
So people are saying dark harvest is a great read. Real shame that cities of sigmar seem to be the go to faction for all aos fiction now and a real shame the army is almost non existent in terms of support from games workshop. Can't even buy a model of a priest of sigmar, or a witch hunter or any hammer weiliding sigmar human now. They are killing there own lore by gutting the model lines.
It's the go to faction because it's the only relatable faction. Immortals aren't relatable. They've definitely improved with some recent SCE books- Soul Wars gives them some character, but ultimately, they live forever and wear God armour. It's hard for us to relate.
An Order of Azyr battletome would be amazing. Perhaps not a battletome considering there would be 1-3 models- but maybe a White Dwarf job or something for the new campaign books they're doing?
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I think marketing may be a big issue- Spear of Shadows was great but GW have cancelled it. Written by their best (or at least one of their best) authors, with a good variety of characters and an easy set of sequels, but didn't sell so they cancelled them. It was good enough to be a mainstream book, but don't think they do any marketing for it. Really dissapointing really! Tainted heart was also great with a different story to what you normally hear. Glad to hear Dark Harvest and Requiem Infernal are good- both on my bookshelf to read.
I think the nearest parralel for BL is the D&D novels- like Drizzt. I've read about 12 of the Drizzt books- they're not incredibly written, but they're great fun. I think some BL is better written than D&D stuff but they're at least as fun. Drizzt books consistently went on the NYT lists (as did some HH books) but I'm pretty sure WOTC advertise those books and promote them.
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39 minutes ago, RuneBrush said:
I'd also question about seeing some of the old plastics brought back - I had a look at an old Dwarf Warrior the other day, and in comparison to a more modern Irondrake, it looks really dated - wind that on 3 years and it's going to look really tired. I can't see the sculptors being told "I know we can do fantastic things with 3d sculpting, but I want you to sculpt this model so that it'll fit in with something designed in 1998", could be wrong but for a company that prides itself on being at the cutting edge of miniature design it doesn't feel right.
I think the issue is making whole armies for a smaller game is not the best return on investment. It's now basically there for 30k- but it's all space marines, not 12 distinct different races (or however many there were). It wouldn't surprise me if they did bring back some of the older plastic kits- they have the moulds and many of the kits were quite nice, though not as detailed as current ones. I mean, if they make whole 10-unit ranges for multiple armies in new designs, that would be amazing- but there's a paid cost already for WHFB models that might be too tempting to ignore!
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So I'm hoping to make a mortals/tzaangor list with no daemons, save for a Lord of Change using the Queen of Malifica model - https://creaturecaster.store/eu/product/queen-of-malifica/
There's a few battalions in the books for skyfires/enlightened and mixed arcanites/tzaangors- any of them worth running? I know the daemon lists are great, but I love the mortal/gor models. Currently looking at 6x Skyfires, 6x enlightened, 20 Tzaangors, 10 Arcanites, 10 arcanites, lord of change, magister on disc, but those are purely the models i like, rather than building for a decent list!
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15 minutes ago, Kramer said:
Was about to say that Amount of structure would kill me but easy access to what you have done far outweighs that 😅
im gonna give that a go.
It's worth it- break down everything into smaller tasks- I have 60 ghouls to paint and have divided those into 20s. Just finished my first set of 20! Much more manageable than 60!
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Finish painting everything I have. 😆
No but seriously, I read blog about managing paint projects and they suggested using Trello, which I have done to map everything in my paint queue:
I aim to finish off FEC, complete Cities and Ossiarch and maybe get some of Blackstone done.
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2 minutes ago, Zadolix said:
I'd like to see Crossbowmen come down in points, maybe to 80. I have two boxes that I really want to build as crossbowmen because I just like the look of them more but for the same points as handgunners I feel like I'd be losing out on a lot.
A mix of handgunners and crossbowmen is useful as you get that extra range.
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7 minutes ago, prochuvi said:
Where are you getting data to say that cos is top3? When we have other army release at the same time(orks) that have 60 win rate per example.
Cos is a mid tier with luck and under armys with old tomes as idoneths,top3 together slanesh,bonereapers and skaven?that isnt even a joke,is as if i say that old dispossesed were a top1 army because i can even if data show otherwise
There's not much point in going on about this- we'll find out whether they're good or not anyway. But orks are popular and both Ironjawz and Bonesplitterz were AoS armies before the new battletome. People had fully painted armies that they could play right away with the new books. Cities is not that at all. Some people had mixed order, but most of those models didn't make it into Cities. Cities requires people to buy old Fantasy models (already that will put off a majority of people) and build a whole army- that takes time. People are now bringing the power lists to tournaments and I think you'll see high win rate with those. There are only a couple of lists that are power lists in the battletome, but those are extremely powerful.
Quoting HW stats is the best way to compare armies, but only if you're comparing like for like- different armies gain popularity and ranking differently, and 3 months after Cities release isn't enough time. Ossiarch is 2 months old, but a lot of people got them and they are the second most powerful army (perhaps most powerful post slaanesh faq, havent seen enough games to give an opinion really).
From the points change people are asking for it seems like people aren't playing the power lists- either because they don't have those models and are playing with their old dispossessed/dark elf stuff or because they want more interesting mixed lists. It's like someone complaining that Tzeentch isn't powerful because Kairic Acolytes aren't that great.
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49 minutes ago, prochuvi said:
Good joke dude,saying a army with 46% win rate is top3
Looking at win rate 3 months after a battletome launches that only uses old fantasy models isn't a reliable way to determine power level.
Edit: 10 of the lists at brotherhood next weekend are cities list- all are Living City or Hallowheart, many taken by top 10 UK players.
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6 hours ago, Planar said:
These new army is so OP its ridiculus. They totally break the meta. GW what were you thinking?
They need a 20% point increase across the board to make it balanced imho.
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4 minutes ago, Double Misfire said:
Is that battlemages taking advantage of the Hurricanum's aura + Whitefire Council for +2 to cast? Surely Whitefire Sorceresses with +3 to cast is more potent?
It's more having so many casts that fit into a battalion you'll almost always take with essentially guaranteed casting with empowered endless spells. Sorceress is good (and her spell is good) but the +2 to cast isn't really needed in Hallowheart if you're getting +1/+2+d6 to cast every turn. It's entirely reasonable that 6 hallowheart wizards could shut down almost any army (or at least remove all their 5/6 wound characters) turn 1 with all the spells in the hallowheart allegiance plus endless spells.
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AoS 2 - Maggotkin of Nurgle Discussion
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That would definitely give you more board coverage!