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2 hours ago, PlasticCraic said:
I think the issue here might be that the unit size is capped at 4 now? Could be wrong.
My hope is 2 bases for 100. Max size is 100x4 (hoping this is the 4) for 8 bases at 400 points.
I think this is how it use to be. I haven’t seen the book so I’m just guessing off of reviews
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19 minutes ago, PlasticCraic said:
You got any early builds in mind?
The following is where my head is at. I like to play symmetric armies. I would front line the 8 stabbas. 3 boar casters 6in back to be out of 30. Front line the Boss and the Prophet with 20 arrows on each flank. 30 Boyz behind the 8 stabbas. Probably strung in lines across my zone to stop deep strikers and such. 5in move half the units pre game.
If my opponent deploys poor and gives t1 I think I can alpha the buffed stabbas and win most games (Probably won half of all my games this way with 2 FLs doing this back in there day). If you are playing someone good I think you have all of the tools needed to play the mission (and I would not alpha).
100 Sav boss
Drakkfoot clan Artifact
120 Boar mage
Breath of Gorkamorka
120 Boar mage
Bone Spirit
120 Boar mage
Brutal Beast Spirits
160 Prophet
Drakkfoot clan Trait
Mork's Boney Bitz
Gorkamorka's War Cry
300 30 Sav boyz
400 8 Big Stabbas
240 20 Sav arrowz in krukk
240 20 Sav arrowz in krukk
140 Krukk
Drakkfoot clan
50 CP
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7 hours ago, cplhicks said:
I'm trying to figure out a teef ruk list where I take a ton of Bigstabbas. I love the model so much and I think there is a lot of buff stacking plus alpha strike possibility.
My first thought was 8 Big Stabbas for 400 points. Pre game move them 5in. Cast: Breath of Gorkamorka, Bone Spirit, Brutal Beast Spirits. Use CA: for a 6in run and the BS Waaagh.
That's a very nice alpha strike imo (22in move before charge T1).
I find it incredibly important that in a tournament setting you have the ability to auto win a game if your opponent deploys poorly and you get turn 1. This to me seems like it might do the trick.
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Has Warcry led to more, and better, scenery being used in your regular AoS games?
For me, the answer is 100% Yes
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1 hour ago, Incredebilis said:
1++ with Smashing and Bashing?
I have only been skimming things so I’m not sure I fully understand the general question. But hitting on 1s still requires a roll and 1s always fail. That’s a rule from the core rules.
best you can ever get is a 2 up reroll. It’s a near guarantee since a fail is only 1/36?
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1 hour ago, B.C.D. said:
Thank you for replying
I think that is a nice solution but what are the guidelines for most official tournaments? Are there any statements known from the TOs?
Does official mean a GW store event? We are not at a point yet where the independent tournament scene and events at GW stores use a standardized pack like say the game MTG where one can just say we are playing “standard” or “modern”. So definitely ask the TO hosting the event what the ruling will before hand. If they can’t answer then it’s not an event worth attending imo.
The below is from the FHGT. A recent and large UK independent event. But again this is not standardized and just the ruling for 1 event. LVO, Acon, etc could have different rules in any given year.
The only official rules regarding a question like this for AOS would be found on PG 70-71 of the GH. It says something like the model must be a GW model, it must be on the correct based, and it must be painted.
LVO said last year:
”Models should be WYSIWYG. Painting is required - all models should be painted to a standard of 3 colors and be based.”
Below is how I approach it. The top is how I base my army... and below is just a GW standard basing approach that I do for my endless spells and just make sure they are rimmed the same so I can plug them into any army.
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1 hour ago, broche said:
f they kept the same profile they are now totally insane
Since GW doesn’t really push for balance... rather semi balance and a rotation of strong units.... all I have to say is:
About time destro has some filth!!! Not since the days of Battle Brew and the FL have we been a true threat!
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My opinion is they must use the proper base size and you should paint the rims to match your army....
Other than that do what you want imo.... I’ve always thought clear bases are totally fine as long as they are the correct measurements.
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1 hour ago, dekay said:
I don't remember anything else being marketed before squatting.
Only other ones I remember are the mounted Slaanesh lord being in promotional art but not in the book. Bonesplitterz wyvern was in some art but does not have rules. The organ gun was shown this morning and I don’t think that’s in the cities book (and will probably be transitioning out of matched play next year)
I would say there is definitely a disconnect with the Art, Community, Rules teams... but it’s not a huge disconnect imo. Just a frustrating one.
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Time to dust the army off!
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11 minutes ago, Meraklis said:
yes. The two in the back are plastic and the shaman in the front is finecast
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Additionally there are easy conversation options to replace the finecast.
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29 minutes ago, Infernalslayer said:
My brother's Greeskinz army will be happy with that!!
Proxy/count as the boyz as Ardboyz. That way we can all be playing the same game.
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“forging your much-loved collections of aelves, humans and duardin into a single, deadly force”
At least we know cities will be an incredibly strong book. GW said they will be “deadly”... just like GHB ogres
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3 minutes ago, Sleboda said:
Dunno about others, but I had not seen that post. Where was it? (Don't say Facebook Don't say Facebook Don't say Facebook)
Yea I haven’t seen it either. And that’s the problem. Communication is poor. Most probably haven’t seen it.
Maybe it is on FB. I’m not on FB much.
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21 minutes ago, JudgeX83 said:
Sorry a bit of topic but do we know when the new slaves to darkness book will release and if it will still have units like marauders that can be marked? I just finished converting poxwalkers into nurgle marauders and I'd like to know if I should bother painting them
I’m just guessing but I suspect they will discontinue old plastics like warriors and marauders.
Seems a general trend to only be keeping plastics from the 2004-2006 era (and removing all finecast unless it’s a needed character)
Black Orcs, Chaos Knights, Marauders on Horse, Great Swords, Sav Orcs, Hammers, Iron Breakers etc etc.
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10 hours ago, Aelfric said:
He's an unstoppable fighter with movement 4 and no ability to teleport - seems fair.
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2 minutes ago, Thomas Lyons said:
So, lets get this straight: We have a non-western predominantly bone-based army with necromantic constructs and skeletal catapults, who have a robust culture of honor (bone tithe contracts for example) and vaguely Egyptian imagery (hieroglyphics and cartouches [which are distinctly Egyptian I might add]) mixed with other eurasian cultural elements (but not enough that it can be tied to any one culture in our world, something that make it immanently IP-protectable), and are lead by an ego-manical leader who won't even deign to fight the peasants unless they prove themselves worthy...and you don't see any remagined, AOS-ified TK in that? At all?
People have seen the below picture yes?
Clearly they are not copy and pasted TK for AOS like Gloomspite... but come on, of course they are the spiritual successor. Heck you could even use the below picture for a guide for "count as models" and it wouldn't be that confusing on what model is what.
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2 hours ago, gjnoronh said:
Da Boyz GT
Is this an ITC event this year?
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11 minutes ago, Overread said:
I thought we'd see the wanderers join in and then the others (light and dark) unite behind Teclis as he started to unit the Aelves against a rising Slaanesh threat (as hinted in their Battletome).
I thought the same, and they would add the nice plastics for old dark elves and high elves into this book.
I still think we will see a brothers book with light and dark subfactions. Guess if we do it will be made up of new kits? Maybe it's not the worse thing if we get a new range similar in size to IDK (Which I think is a decent size for a tome).
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4 hours ago, amysrevenge said:
Therefore, I predict that a combined Ogor battletome would include every unit from the BCR battletome. It is only in the Gutbuster/Firebelly/Maneater factions that we might see some cuts.
I believe you are correct on past trends. If they are re-merging BCR and Gutbusters I believe that would also be a first however (Re-merging a tome with GA units not in the tome). Since it is uncharted territory I worry for my metal cats, hunter, and yetis.
I could see them getting the axe rather than replaced with plastics if they are recombined.
Since this is a rumor thread I'd note that everything I am hearing is that merger is happening... this is not what I was expecting a year ago.
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1 hour ago, Kyriakin said:
Make a huge, hard-back Warhammer Legends book with all of the Old World Legends warscrolls, Old World art, Old World fluff and, most importantly, points values in the back.
I do not agree or support this.
I also think the GW communication on these squats was awful. I for one had bought a fair few gitmob and greenskinz in the last year.
That said I do not want any unsupported lines of models in Pitched Battles. And as the game is currently constructed the concept of points is a Pitched Battles thing (read the rules if you disagree). Pitched Battles are a subset of Matched Play (pg 310)
Open play is for two players who know each other and legends is great there (pg 270)
Narrative Play has a GM who should set up armies / rules for armies (pg 281). Legends can also fit well here.
Finally you could play Matched Play without points and use wounds (pg 308). This is also legends compatible.
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1 hour ago, LeSwordfish said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if Ogors get a release like we're expecting then Slaves will be the only faction without an updated book. Maybe the Dark Aelves too, depends if they're in CoS.
A nice stat is that there are 101ish Order warscrolls not in a battletome, 25ish Chaos warscrolls, 18ish Destruction warscrolls, and 0 Death warscrolls.
GW has been doing a good job transitioning Grand Alliance X books to battletomes over the last 3 years (the 4 chaos god books and LoN did a lot of the heavy lifting). Once we get Ogres, Slaves, and Cities most of these warscrolls will be in a tome. Safe bet the rest will die off over the next year or 2 and not make it into the GH.
AOS is in a better place than 40k model wise imo. With the recent round of squatting we are left with a lot of good plastic kits and limited finecast. If you look at 40k they are releasing the new marine codex but haven't made it full primaris. It is going to suck for players in 2-4 years when they completely phase them out, yet need to buy these old models to stay competitive since they are in the book. We are in a place soon where if a friend is to buy army most models he picks will be relevent for a long time.
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9 minutes ago, Mutton said:
I'd go one step further and say we allow people to use their old models in Cities armies as "proxies." Let Thunderers be Guild Gunners. Let Swordmasters be Greatswords. I say we band together and give people the chance to use their armies without having to resort to outdated, soon to be legacy rules.
If you ask your TO before hand I think this is 100% the best use for old models. Armies look nice. They arent even "proxies" since the models are not in production and can't be confused with there actual warscroll. I'd call them "count as". "count as" models have been legal at LVO forever and that probably wont change soon.
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3 hours ago, Overread said:
Remember GW already says that models are legal on the base they were sold with (including squares) and yet many events require round bases.
They have moved away from that stance wiht the GH19: They did not fully commit and add it to the core rules or matched play rules. But they note their intent for events requiring rounds on pg 70. I included the bold section that also notes that TOs can do as they please.
AoS 2 - Bonesplitterz Discussion
in Destruction
Posted · Edited by svnvaldez
Asked a buddy with the book... he is saying max 4 bases. And Ardboyz are max 20 in response to an IJ post.
Here is hoping for the Rogue Idol being the same at 400 with an added BS keyword lol