Lord Krungharr
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I got the Almanack, but apparently the warscrolls (datasheets?) for the Trolls themselves are not in that tiny book. Do I actually need to get the Ravening Hordes big book? Or can I just go off the Old-World-Builder stat lines for the Trolls?
Wasn't sure if the Ravening Hordes has other important rules for Orcs and Goblins that might be needed. Guess it's good exercise carrying around twice the book-weights....
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On 5/1/2024 at 9:02 AM, Jator said:
As all I can do right now is dreaming about the time when I'll be able to play (and painting... I should't be slacking on that 🙄), I'm toying with a Troll Horde list. I'm rusty at this, so tell me what you think:
++ Characters [781 pts] ++
Orc Weirdnob [230 pts]
(Hand weapon, Level 4 Wizard, On foot, Idol of Mork, Talisman of Protection, Troll Magic)Troll Hag [270 pts]
(Hand weapon (Gnarled stump), Troll vomit, Swamp breath, Heavy armour (Scaly skin), Effigy Of Mork, Troll Magic)Orc Weirdboy [146 pts]
(Hand weapon, Level 2 Wizard, War Boar, Buzgob's Knobbly Staff, Troll Magic)Orc Bigboss [135 pts]
(Hand weapon, Heavy armour, Shield, Battle Standard Bearer [War Banner], On foot, Sword of Swiftness)++ Core Units [804 pts] ++
4 Common Troll Mob [180 pts]
(Hand weapons, Great weapons)4 Common Troll Mob [180 pts]
(Hand weapons, Great weapons)4 River Troll Mob [212 pts]
(Hand weapons, Great weapons)20 Orc Mob [232 pts]
(Hand weapons, Thrusting spears, Light armour, Shields, Boss (champion) [Da Thinkin' Orc's 'At], Standard bearer [Banner of Iron Resolve], Musician)++ Special Units [212 pts] ++
4 River Troll Mob [212 pts]
(Hand weapons, Great weapons)++ Rare Units [200 pts] ++
Giant [200 pts]
(Giant's club, Light armour)---
Created with "Old World Builder"[https://old-world-builder.com]
I'm considering dropping the giant and use the points to get some boar boys, but the giant fits better the theme. I coul also use those points to add an extra troll to some the existing units, but I think they should do ok as they are. Thoughts?
I haven't yet played a game, but I think that is looking like a much more competitive Troll Horde than mine. But I have what I have, and don't want more stuff, so mine is 2 Hags, 9 and 9 of Stone and River Trolls (all great weapons), and 2 Giants (because mancrushers are meh and look way better with spare Dankhold bits on their heads and arms
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Decided to keep my AOS Troggoths on their 50mm rounds, and make trays to accommodate them in TOW. Here's what I came up; gonna try out the CNC machine at the library. Magnet holes in the center. Figured 3 wide is fine, though I see some people like 4. But others say even 4 monstrous infantry/cavalry can get unwieldly on the tabletop with maneuvering, etc. If they suck in 3s I'll just make some in 4s to try. The 120mm blocky front edge is for a clear line of engagement which seems kinda necessary in this particular game.
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2 hours ago, Baron Klatz said:
I mean they can justify it now since the Era of the Beast is coming to a close and the wild energies from the Beast Realm are calming down a bit. So it lorefully can get weaker.
Love that word, I'm adding it to my lexicon!
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Excellent conversion! I had to do a double-take before I realized it wasn't an old metal one.
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On 4/20/2024 at 9:16 AM, Calum Todd said:
I've been working on my 90's style Chaos Dwarfs. These are using 3D prints from Fabelzel, Brawniac and Meshy Mesh.
What I have painted so far that is a Chaos Dwarf:
The unit of Chaos Dwarfs with a Sorceror
First unit of Blunderbusses - I think the Fireglaives are probably the "correct" choice, but these models are just too fun to leave out of an army.
A better shot of the Lammasu
Some sneaky gits - I've not painted any greenskins since Gorkamorka so this has been a bit of a learning experience!
My first ever war machine - it kind of looks like it fires out baked beans instead of magma though.
Is Fabelzel 3D files that we could buy? Haven't looked into them other than seeing their sculpts, which are AWESOME! Nice paintjobs on those. The magma cannon looks like a Forgeworld one?
Working on my Troll Horde for now, but have some big-hats in the mail from the UK, and then I can get the Core done, and finish my warmachine and other conversions/kitbashes. Gotta figure out how to make some old-school looking Kdaai Fireborn. I think those could prove useful.
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Khul Ascendant was in a vision of a Slaughterpriest when they were in battle in one of the stories on WHC I think? Pretty darn cool, and I very much expect that after the year of the index, the next Khorne tome will have him go the way of Angron in 40k.
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Guess I'm just not eager to paint all the Night Goblins. I might be painting a bunches of Skaven, and I know I'll be painting bunches of Chaos Dwarfs
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I picked up a box of Fellwaters that someone had exchanged today at GW store, got lucky there. But after reading through this and other forums it does seem like I'll need to have some non-Troll Shaman or two in there as well. On Goonhammer they suggest perhaps a Level 4 Weirdnob with some Boar-boyz. Those might look good with some swampy and or crystalline cavern bases; I could see boars sniffing around for mushrooms or something. Was also thinking perhaps Spider Rider screens but are those Night Goblins?
The Old World Builder app doesn't have all the restrictions built in. This coming week I think I can get the OG Almanack.
I just have so many Troggoths from AOS that I feel highly compelled to run them in both games, similar to Daemons who could be in 3 different games if cleverly magni-based. Though I guess Night Goblins could also do that. Shame that they can't hang with Trolls in the Old World though 😛
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Wasn't there a thing where we can fill ranks with a couple bases worth of decorative stuff and it's alright rules-wise or something? That would help round out the scenic vistas of foetid swampyness for my River Trolls.
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As much amazing hobby goes into AOS stuff, I think because of the different basing with trays and 'fillers' we will see even more amazing amounts of hobby go into TOW. I know I have much more elaborate plans for my Chaos Dwarfs and Troll Horde.
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I had good luck with Slaughter of Sorcery with my Ogor Beastclaw army, but with Eshin I always used Masters of Execution since I had 5-6 Eshin heroes in their all the time. Not sure I'll even be able to use my army in the index season of 4th ed.? BUT I am eager to spam other interesting things in quantities never before permitted, and invent different versions from many many bits. Seems like Skryre will coming in hot.
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Next time I'm at my FLGS I gotta get this book.
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I always have full confidence that every plan-scheme will go according to plan-scheme! This sounds like a great fun army. I have no idea what that new DOK list does but aelves can stick it.
Is Masters of Execution the one where you have to keep your Deathmaster or Slynk alive? That might be difficult, though Deathmasters are easy enough to hide if you don't need them actually do anything.
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Maybe the phrases Plague Monks and Night Runners are somehow copyrightable? Doesn't seem correct.
I expect the new replacement/similar units to have more unique names and of course new models. So Gutter Runners will become much better looking elite ninja rats, and then we can still use our old metal ones instead on whichever base size they decide to go with. Clan Eshin is always busy in the stories, don't see how they can NOT be in the next tome and edition.
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On 3/2/2024 at 4:02 PM, Gitzdee said:
Please let me know if u encounter any fun Destruction lists ^^. What Ogor list are u using?
I went 4-0 and got Best Overall! I had Boulderhead/FLOSH w Nullstone Icon and Rockmane Elder/Icebrow General w Pulverizing Hailstorm/2x2 Frost Sabres/Thundertusk Riders w Vulture.
I fought an Ironjawz w Mawkrusha and 3x2 GoreGruntas Bloodtoofs. Then did see a Gitz army w Two Aroks and Spider Riders and probably some other little guys, and a nice Trogg army too.
I just bought a gigantic Gitz army, definitely eager to do a big Swamp Troll Horde for TOW (Troll Hag on the way from the UK) but will base them for alternate use in AOS too. Bunches of Mangler Squigs also seem highly doable in 4th edition coming up?!? That would be pretty fun.
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I'm totally down with the new no-battefield roles other than heroes. How many different types of Doomwheel kitbashings can I come up with? WE SHALL SEE
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Cities-humans, KO or Fyreslayers, Sylvaneth, those are all good guy Order factions that could start people off. Stormcast has plenty of details to paint just like all of them. KO and Fyreslayers aren't too bad to assemble for modeling noobs. Stormcast is the most Space Marine like but there are so many other factions stirring the lore-pot these days.
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Heck yeah, I'm definitely making the Troll Horde! And possibly just all puking swamp trolls. Maybe with a Colossal Squig as a proxy for a giant (a little surprised that thing isn't in there?).
Or do all Trolls puke? I don't have the Arcane Journal yet.
I want 2 Hags, but one will need to be kitbashed for uniqueness. Guess I'd pick up that Ogdrugz or whatever his name is too.
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Is the Spearhead group of armies going to be fixed to certain units only contained in the boxes called Spearheads? And are the Vanguard boxes equivalent to Spearhead boxes?
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Made To Order makes so much sense for all the golden oldies! There's not that much up-front investment, and they don't have to stock anything except metal and the molds since the sale is guaranteed.
Some people think next year AOS will get Chaos Dwarf equivalents though, so if that actually happens, TOW players will have proxies at least. I'm not holding my breath though. It would take at least twice as many units than Fyreslayers have to make a right-proper Chorfy faction.
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I won't hold my breath for AOS Chaos Dwarves, but I'll blow up a balloon and pop it if that happens!
I surgically removed Juggernaut riders and Theridon legs last night to start my Bull Centaurs. I also want to make a Juggernauty type of Great Taurus that can accomodate a removable Daemonsmith-Sorcerer (that old big hat metal guy with hammer and wand). Then I'll have all 3 types and they'll all be very very different but unified with basing, paint jobs, and awesomeness.
For my forces the metal big hats and Forgeworld will be in positions of power for the most part. Because so many little ones are so very expensive mostly.
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3 hours ago, Double Misfire said:
Are Dominion Hobgrots not still super cheap on eBay?
Black Orcs are by all accounts pretty good. At least in an Orc and Goblin list. Might be an oversight, but Black Orc Warbosses in a Chaos Dwarf list can saddle up a wyvern or chariot.
Oh wow, Hobgrots! Those would be perfect, as IIRC they deal with the Chorfs in their lore to get weapons though I think it's a bit murky in detail? If I could put a Wyvern in my list with the other stuff I'd be a happy camper.
How do I add a poll?!? I vote HATS
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Figured the wickedly bearded need their own section for the smattering of folks who have them. I'm still assembling/converting.
-Irondrakes will be Fireglaives.
-The old Shartor from Forgeworld will be a Sorcerer-Prophet on Bale Taurus after I put daemon prince wings on him.
-Got an old Lammasu wizard and Hthark from Bloodbowl for a Tauruk.
-Magma Cannon and Deathshrieker CHECK. Iron Daemon and Skull Cracker and 6 Bull-Centaurs in the works.
-Foot Daemonsmith on the way. Hellcannon......apparently stinks so that could be a Dreadquake Mortar (found a metal one and the metal crew, figured might as well).
Guess many people say Hobgoblins are good to have in there but just not feeling them right now, or finding any for a decent price. Trying to avoid 3D printing if I can. Perhaps some Black Orcs might be good? Apparently we invented those!
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I mean, those look pretty good, but those old Warriors are so cheap, why not just buy some on eBay?
By contrast, recast resin big hat Chorfs, that makes more sense, morally speaking. And by morally, I mean financially.