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Yeah, I think im gonna try and use him more as he adds some value now he can threaten objs. I used him Sat with squigs and smashed a Seraphon player
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Points break down.
Morathi-Khaine now has the whole dok spell lore- 1
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Yup, enhancement. Having the ability to crank out some healing when needed is really useful, especially keeping Avatars going
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4 hours ago, Gokken said:
Super nice job going 4-1 without morathi and snakes, any chance you could share the list? I saw you made a few variations earlier in this thread, but I lost track of which one you used, I tried an avatar and I would say they perform well, I need more in my lists
I really wish I could play DOK as something different than a shooting army, I really loved this army but recently my joy from it has turned into frustration and it kinda turned me off warhammer abitThis is the list I used. Ive only lost 2 games with it so far and both were vs Seraphon. I used it on a recent recording with Saga of Dice which I will post when its online
Tbh Blood Sisters would work better than BloodStalkers, but we have a good skaven player in our area and I like to keep the stalkers in to deal with those dicks with moremorewarp power- 1
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The crab that launched 100 memes
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2 hours ago, EntMan said:
And you get herpes, and you get herpes, and you get herpes
you all get herpes!- 1
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Hope gitz get a decent winter update cause if not its gonna be tough trying to be competitive with them over the next year
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On 11/20/2021 at 2:45 AM, haraw said:
I read your report with the Avatars. That list is truly something!
Yeah, I kinda get it that playing against metalists can become boring and that it can lead to frustrating games.
Morathis are just a superb looking models and thematically the snake-ladys fits wonderfully into the same list.
A small part of me wishes that Morathi list becomes weaker so that it could be attributed as a underdog😄
Also, i'd love get some witch elves and warlocks too but the cost/points -ratio means that they have to wait for later.
Love her model and her lore, Morathi is awesome in that sense. Tbh I would rather she had more wounds and could take more than 3/be healed. I think people just hate the fact of you cant do more than 3 which is why she gets the hate.
We are already seeing the trend of Morath/15 Stalkers not being as effective as it was. DOK are slipping in the podiums atm and I think its cause people are just working out how that list plays. It will still win games and will still be used though as there are a ton of players who will just moan when playing against her and not strategize
WE are not a great unit imo atm, but they are a decent screen. Kinda wished we had more options for battle line. Id be interested to see a Khinari hero that made Khinari battleline, as then you could have fun with movement shinnanigans
would love it and play it if Shadowstalkers could be battleline in a Khelebron army.- 3
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1st game back since Kippers as took a wee break while on Vacation and just general busy at work
play vs Matthias and a OBR list he is trying which was:
Mortis Praetorians
Katakros
Arch-Kavalos Zandtos
Liege-Kavalos
10 Deathriders
5 Death Riders
5 Death Riders
5 Death Riders
5 Death Riders
Battle Regiment
Hold the LinePlayed Tectonic Interference
I just used my kippers list as ive written 5 other versions and none look as good as my current one
So he is 1 drop and went 1st. I knew he would probably Alpha me, so huggled a little in the corner and used my screens for cover. He generates a ton of discipline points, so basically his army has +3 mov, +1 to hit and AS, impact hits and +1A. Does a ton of damage if he wasnt facing HaggNar, which he was.
He got a little lucky as I failed to cast Sacrament turn 1 so my Avatars just stood there, and he got the 2nd turn so tried to push is advantage more but I managed to hold only losing all my witchaelves and my foot hag, but this then meant my turn 2, and I got the double, my avatars and Hags, plus Medusa/stalkers, just cleared through his army and had enough to charge into Katakros, getting him down to 2W and only 5 Death riders remaining (He would have been dead, but my general failed to charge in when I mirror danced her to a charge position
His list is interesting as hes trying to do OBR but not use Nagash. He discussed going with 2x10 death riders then 30 Motek Guard, as he can use the 10's to pin his opponent in their starting area while he reaps the objs, then when they finally clear through the riders the Motek guard are now in play
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Morathi-Khaine and the bowsnakes is a dull list which people are learning how to counter in the current Meta.
Its not fun for your opponent and tbh its really dull to play. Morathi is probably going to get a points increase in winter FAQ also and maybe even stalkers too. (as well as a load of none dok stuff)
Blood Sisters are still a very decent unit
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picked up my extra Gitz....and I now have around 7k of gitz (mainly squigs)
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4 minutes ago, Ganigumo said:
@Chumphammer
Looks like a fun list, but it might be worth sticking some Sneaky snufflers and a shaman in there (or maybe take the arcane tome) so you can get the Squig Lure spell. Snufflers give out +1 attack to Moonclan units, so squig herds are a valid target, and +1 attack on those 25mm bases is very nice.I dont have any snufflers, and I dropped the shamans as just wanted to do Squigs. Could do the Tome but tbh our magics so hit and miss and so many magic armies atm Just wanted full squig sillyness. This isnt for a tournament or anything
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I think I might actually try this for pure squig amusement value
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There was one in the Monstrous Arcanum faq a month ago I think
So 6 attacks, hitting on 3s (if ovwer 5 models) and wounding on 3s for D3 no rend.
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4 hours ago, Iksdee said:
I had a list with 3 manglers and a ton of squigs. My worry is heroes being killed quick then squigs just melting
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Maybe something like this:
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so "accidently" just got some more gitz....like a lot more...
So now i am trying to make a list lol
Roughly I now have"
4 Manglers
2 Fungoids
2 Madcaps
2 Loonboss on Squig
1 Loonboss with Squig
Squig Gobba
8 Squig Herds
40 Stabbas
20 Shootas
3 Fanatics
40 Boingrots
10 Hoppers
6 Troggoths
1 Troggboss
Was thinking of running a squig herd swarms (like 8 single units) and just swarm the board/obj while have manglers cause havoc.
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On 11/2/2021 at 4:11 AM, Ravenborn said:
Congrats Chumphammer! I’m really happy to hear you did so well without Morathi Khaine. I hate when everyone plays just one version of an army, and taking multiple avatars is risky but clever.
Did you play a second tournament as well?
Cheers!
Sorry I've been on Vacation since 28th (back home tomorrow) so been taking an aos break so didn't see this.
I was supposed to, but after how socially drained I was after kippers and it was supposed to be 4 days before my vacation, plus my dog got sick, I had to drop out. Our team that went came 4-6th and one got 3rd best overall, so think I could have done really well.
One of our team played and beat Morathi-Khaine twice lol (he had nagash obr)
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Pics are up at @chumphammer
Game 1: Savage Gains
Player Name: Patrick
Allegiance: lronjawz
• Warclan: lronsunz
• Mortal Realm: Ghur
- Grand Strategy: Hold the Line
- Triumphs: IndomitableLEADERS
Megaboss on Maw-Krusha (4S0r
•Gene,a/
•Command Trait Battle-lust
• So.ssChoppaand Rip-tooth (J.St
• Artefact: Amufet of Destiny
• MountTrait Fa.st'Un
Megaboss on Maw-Krusha (480)"
•Bo.ssChoppaand Rip-tooth fi.st
• Artefact: DestroyerOrruk Warchanter (115}u
•Wa,teat:FM' Seat
Orruk Warchanter (115}u
•Wa,teat:FM' SeatUNITS
10 x Orruk Ardboys (170}11
• 1 x Goti'amo,lca Sanner Bearers
• 1 x Goti'amorkaGfyph Bearers10 x Orruk Ardboys (170}11
• 1 x Goti'amo,lca Sanner Bearers
• 1 x Goti'amorkaGfyph Bearers5 x Om1k Brutes (160}11
• PW of &vteChoppas
• 1 x Gore Chappa$5 x Om1k Brutes (160}11
• PW of &vteChoppas
• 1 x Gore Chappa$3 x Om1k Gore-gn.intas (150}11
• Jagged Gore-hackasCORE BATTALIONS
•Battle Regiment
"-Command Entourage• Magnificent ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS
ArtefactTOTAL: 2000/2000 WOUNDS: 133
LEADERS: 416 BATTLELINES: 4 (3+) BEHEMOTHS: 2/4 ARTILLERY: 0/4 ARTEFACTS: 2/1 ENDLESS
SPELLS & INVOCATIONS: 0/3 ALLIES: 0/400 REINFORCED UNITS: 2/4
He made me go 1st, so I buffed up and braced for the mawcrusher charge that never happened. Snipped a warchanter turn 1 and 2 with bowsnakes to stop buffs. Avatar and 10 WE went into left flank while 1 did the same on the right, with non general holding center with bowsnakes and 10 WE screen. Turn 3 got Curse off on 1 Mawcrusher and then Withering on the 2nd, then rolled the 6 for heart of fury. 24 WE attacks finished off the one with curse and Avatar/general took down the other after stalkers softend him up. He had 5 brutes and 10 Ardboyz left and i had lost 15 We
Game 2: Feral Foray
Player Name: Tanner M.
List Name: Vampires and Friend Allegiance: Flesh Eater Courts
- Grand C-Ourt: C-Ourt of Delusion - The Feast Day
- Mortal Realm: Ghur
- Grand Strategy: Hold the Line
- Triumphs: Inspired
LEADERSAbhorrant Archregent (245)'
Abhorrant Ghoul King on Royal Terrorgheist (445)*
- Artefad: Amulet of Destiny
- Mount Trait: Gruesome Bite
- Lore of Madness: Blood FeastCrypt Infernal Courtier (130)*
- General
- Command Trait: Dark Acolyte - Deranged TransformationBig Drogg Fort-Kicka (525)
-AlliesUNITS
10 x Crypt Ghouls (95)* 10 x Crypt Ghouls (95)* 10 x Crypt Ghouls (95)* 6 x Crypt Flayers (360)*
CORE BATTALIONS
*Battle Regiment
He made me go 1st and failed to get heart up. Tried to kill the archregent to prevent summon but failed (got him to 1 wound)
His turn he got all spells off on his AGKORT (like +4A and stuff) and pushed into my face. Managed to kill it in return but it did damage. He got the double and did the same with the flayers but manage to hold. Then basically used my units to flank him, killing his smaller units while tanking the big stuff. Game ended turn 4 with Avatar x 2 and general charging into a withered Big Drogg (who was a bit of a failure all game really) and everything else was dead on his side
Game 3: Tectonic Interference
Player Name: Erik Armstrong
List Na.me: Seraphon Thunder Lizards Allegiance: Seraphon
- Constellation: Thunder Lizard
- Grand Strategy: Dominating Presence
- Triumphs: InspiredLEADERS
Stegadon with Skink Chief (305)"
• General
• Command Trait: Prime Wa,t,,e,a.st
• Artefact: C.loak of Feathers
• Weapon: Skystreak BowEngine of the Gods (265)
• Artefact: Fusil ofConflaguration
• UniversalPrayer ScripbJre: CurseLord Kroak (430)•
• Spell: Stellar TempestSkink Priest (80)•
• UniversalPrayer SclipbJre: HealSkink Priest (80)•
• UniversalPrayer SclipbJre: HealUNITS
5 x Saurus Guard {115)• 10 x Skinks (75)...,.
• Bo/tspftfers CelestifeOitgge.rs & Star Bucklers10 x Skinks (75)...,.
• Bo/tspftfers CelestifeOitgge.rs & star Bucklers
10 x Skinks (75)...,.
• Bo/tspftfers CelestifeOitgge.rs & star BucklersBEHEMOTHS
Bastiladon with Solar Engine (235)" Bastiladon with Solar Engine (235)" CORE BATTALIONS
•Warlord"Linebreaker
..-.Hunters of the Heart.lands ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS
Artefact
TOTAL: 1970/2.000 WOUNDS: 108LEADERS: 516 BATTLELINES: 4 (3+) BEHEMOTHS: 4f4 ARTILLERY: 1/4 ARTEFACTS: 2/1 ENDLESS
SPELLS & INVOCATIONS: 0/3 ALLJES: 0/400
Erik is a stong player and club mate. He came 3rd, after losing the last game vs the 5-0 general winner
He took turn 1, getting a 6 for comet call and did some wounds across the board. He focused shooting on 1 avatar and got him to 2 wounds, and killed some WE with skink shots. My turn 1 pushed to a solid position in case He got priority, and took some wounds onto a bastallidon to drop its silly save. I then got the double and went for it. Shadow stalkers got into his priest in the back line, killing one and getting one to 2 wounds. Army buffed pushed into his dinosaurs with 2 avatars and non general cauldron, with Heart/General in buff range, and WE screening. Did a good number of wounds across them with not a huge amount of stuff back. He was worried as id totally blocked the obj and was into him...however...
His turn he got all his spells off, doing another 6 units with comet (D3MW to each) then got Celestial deliverance 3 times (3 units take D3MW each time) AND then he rolled Lightning twice on engine of the gods....(every enermy within 12 takes D3MW on a 2+)....
This pretty much killed my whole army bar the shadowstalker champion, the medusa and 6We.
Medusa finished off a bastillidon and the stalker a priest, but that was it. 4-6D3MW across my whole army is brutal. Should have targetted the engine not bastillidon
Game 4: First Blood
List Name: Disciples of the Spider QueenAllegiance: Daughters of Khaine
- Temple: Hagg Nar
- Morn>/ Realm: U/gu
- Grand Strategy: Hold the Une
- Triumphs: Inspired
LEADERS
The Shadow Queen(330)•
Morathi-Khaine (330)- Loreof Shadows: Mindrazor
Bloodwrack Medusa (120)*"
- Ger,e,a/
- Conmand Trait Devoted Disciples
- Attefact: The UJfuri
- Loreof Shadows: Mirror DanceHag Queen(105)•
-Attefact: Iron Cjrolef
- Prayer: Blessing of Khaine
15 x Blood Stalkers (510)"
20 x Witch Aelves (240)""
of Sacrificial Knives10 x Witch Aelves (120)""
Sacrificial Knivesand BladeBucklers5 x Khinerai lifetakers (90)""
5 x Doomfire Warlocks (140)""
"Command Entourage - Magnificent ""Battle Regiment
ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTSArtefact
Was super pumped for this one as 1st DOK fight and wanted to beat Morathi and the snakes. I deployed out of 24 of the bowsnakes and he made me go 1st. I decided to go bold and teleported the medusas 9" from the middle of the 20WE screening the bowsnakes. My stalkers tried to snipe out his medusa but only for 3 in range and got 1w on her and used the other shots split between Morathi and the 20WE. This took the 3W off Morathi and left 4WE after shooting was done.
His turn he flew shadowqueen down to capture a point an charge my Stalkers. I redeployed them but not enough, and he got them into and killed them (all out attack/Triumph) but he also was touching the WE and within pile in of non general cauldron. This meant I piled in the WE onto the obj and held it, while my shrine did 3 more wounds. his 2 turns shooting took an avatar. His warlocks tried to take the top obj but ended up with same models as I had so failed to take it also. And I held the middle, so he only got his tactic.
He won the double, and got his stalkers kinda wiffed. Morathi took 3 wounds for 4 on my cauldron(heart/general in buff range) mini Morathi killed a medusa.
My turn I pushed forwards, taking out all his witchaelves and moving to threaten the stalkers. Shadowstalkers went into his back to try and take the medusa but failed (down to 1w) and I killed off his warlocks. I got an arcane bolt stored into my remaining medusa. Cauldron did 1W on shadowqueen then I unleashed the bolt in my combat ohase start to finish her off.
He won next round, did some wound son the avatar and medusa killed the shadowstalkers. Khinari had dropped onto the obj with cauldron to steal it, and that was really it. My turn I got into the bowsnakes after he redeployed not far enough and couldnt unleash hell, and the cauldron killed the khinari
Game 5: Power Struggle
Alex
Khorne/reapers of vengeance/ east master/Inspired
Bloodstoker
Bloodthirster of unfettered fury/mage eater/general/amulet of Destiny
Slaughterpriest- killing frenzy
Archaon the everchosen
Daemonprince (skullshard mantle) mark of khorne
2 x 10 Blood reavers
10 Blood Warriors
BR/Warlord
This game went how I thought it would since I am 3-0 vs Archaon before this
Basically tied Archaon up with killing avaters while i killed his army. turn 3 he just had BT and Archaon left for the cost of both Avatars and 10WE
non general hag/medusa killed the BT while my general ran from Achaon with a redeploy. 8 rounds of combat with Archaon during this game (he gets to fight twice a turn with Reapers) and he couldnt slayer of kings my general, who was heart buffed plus blessing. Turn 4 he conceeded as I had all obj for 2 turns now and he just had Archaon and was already behind on points. The nail in the coffin was getting curse off on him and still having both cauldrons/10 WE/8 Stalkers about to attack him
So all in all I played pretty solid. Wish Id been more prepared vs Seraphon but only so much you can do. I literally rolled the same number to dispel his spells that he rolled to cast, so all his spells just went off.
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Won best overall at Kippers and went 4-1 with my non Morathi-Khaine list, losing to a seraphon kroak list that hit 90% of my army with 5D3 MW in 1 turn when he was losing to swing it back
..and I played vs Morathi-Khaine and the bow snakes game 4 and beat it
Rough rundown
Game 1: double mawcrusher IJ (won)
Game 2: fec with giant (won)
Game 3: kroak 2 bastillodons, steg and engine (loss)
Game 4: Morathi & bow snakes (won)
Game 5: Archaon BoK (won)
So I have now succeeded from Morathi-Khaine and am following Hellebrone lol
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Got 2 tournaments in the next two weekends!
Kippers Melee (30+)
Red Harvest (100+)
Using my 4 Avatar list. Gonna be fun!- 2
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On 10/3/2021 at 12:02 AM, Maogrim said:
@dikakos Greetings and congratulations on joining the glorious faith to the supreme queen and murder godess Morathi-Khaine.
The list is a little hard to read sine there is nothing in bold nor any empty lines as seperation. But you have Morathi and 15 Stalkers, which is said to be quite good right now.
The Bloodwrack Viper seems to be hit-or-miss for most people. And a single MSU of Witch Aelves might die quite fast.
Are you dead-set on Khailebron? Because you could get the MSU Khinerai 'for free' in Khelt Nar.
Which reminds me... @Chumphammer@Chumphammer and others: what'd be your ranking of the sects, now that 3rd Edition had a little breathe?
Its hard to tell really as 90% of tournament lists are morathi & 15 Bowsnakes
Hagg Nar is still solid but misses the 5+ MW
Khelibron is good if going a Low drop and maybe MSU to give them no solid target. Peter has a list around with 45 Stalkers (2 x 10 and 5 x 5) and went 4-1 with it. (not my kinda list as pure shooting but credit for something different)
Id say they are still my top 2, with Draichi and Khelt nar both close behind
Only stuff I dont see much on is Cobra Kai
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1st time on camera and played bad lol
but here is the gitz vs Soulblight GL
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The Winter Rules Update
in Age of Sigmar Discussions
Posted
I did a good run through of the leaks from the 15th and todays FAQ
I really loved how spot on the leaks were...