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  1. 2 hours ago, Mutton said:

    Any other Cities units catch peoples' eyes for allies? Ghur battlemage for +2 run & charge seems good. Maybe 10-20 Pheonix Guard to protect the cauldron? Sisters of the Watch for ranged support (since our bow snakes are worthless)?

    Sadly they can't allie with PG (well on the app) but yeah 30pg with an annointed would be a amazing anvil.

    Just checked app and shadow warriors are only 110 from 160. Mistake?

  2. 31 minutes ago, Zanzou said:

    Or use him correctly..!

    Totally lol

    My first game with him he got into combat turn 2, and killed 880pts of stuff in 3 turns. It was total commitment and i just sent him by himself after an objective. He died but did alot. Probably woulda done more but as it was vs legion of grief the immunity to rend slowed him slightly

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  3. I mean it may get wrecked, but thats ok if I have fun. I have LVO to go all "hardcore" on so this is more chill. We actually have had a charity 1 day event pop up on the 6th of oct so may run it then and see

    Played with this last night and I got a win at the bottom of my 3rd (delayed due to him getting double turn)

    Morathi
    Gotrek
    Hag (General, Devoted Disciples, Ignax Scales, Blessing of khaine)
    30 Sisters of Slaughter (shields)
    10 Witch Aelves 
    10 Witch Aelves 
    10 Witch Aelves 


    Gotrek was a beast, killing 880pts inc the general due to him leaving a gap big enough to charge through. He did die though, as 1 turn he took 4 wounds from Dreadscythe Harridans, another 2 the turn later from black knights (rolled double 1's) and his last wound popped from the necromancer arcane bolt. So him living really relies on rolling better lol

    He killed a Mournghoul, 5 black knights, 5 Dire wolves, 20 DreadScythe Harridans, Dreadblade Harrow

    Morathi struggled to kill as much as he kept making his saves as rend has no affect

    It was total commitment, but I think i might drop 10 Witch Aelves and with their points and the 40 I had left grab 2 units of lifetakers. Puts me at 8 drops which isnt bad

    Or 5 Doomfire warlocks. 7 drops then, some shooting support and their spell plus maybe take shroud of despair 

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  4. 1 hour ago, Graywater said:

    Your first list seems strong, presenting 4 real threats. I'm more interested in your second list, the "towers". It's light on numbers, but it's different. A lot of daughters lists tend to look a bit samey, so something like that stands out. I have no idea on how well itll do, but a 1 day local event is the low stakes environment to give it a shot. Gotrek and morathi also both present very unique problems for your opponent, so double teaming with them is an interesting concept.

    Yeah I like the two towers list also. Could be fun and packs a punch.

    I am building the 2nd Cauldron atm (I have one but missing the avatar, but local friend giving me the old metal one which will give the cauldrons a good difference)

    List I am going to try tonight, just to get the feel of things is this:

     

    Morathi
    Gotrek
    Hag (General, Devoted Disciples, Ignax Scales, Blessing of khaine)
    30 Sisters of Slaughter (shields)
    10 Witch Aelves 
    10 Witch Aelves 
    10 Witch Aelves 

  5. Or the towers list! was chatting to jack about doing this one
    Morathi
    Gotrek
    Hag on cauldron, general, devoted disciples, Ignax scales, Blessing of khaine
    Hag on Cauldron, Catachism of murder 
    3 x 10 Witch Aelves 

    Thats a lot of damage output and tanky models with both cauldrons on a 4+/5+. One with 4+ vs mortal wounds and then the same one or the other with blessing if needs be

  6. So I really fancy taking a DoK Gotrek list to a local tournament. Current meta isnt affecting it, and Top 7 at a recent event was:

    Blades of Khorne 
    Blades of Khorne 
    Grand Host of Nagash
    Skaven
    Blades of Khorne 
    Fyreslayers
    Skaven

    I own:
    Gotrek
    Morathi
    Cauldron x 2
    Medusa
    10 Heart Renders (10 Life takers on the way)
    10 Doomfire warlocks
    2 Hags
    Knight Incantor 
    40 Witch Elves
    30 Sisters of Slaughter
    20 Blood Sister
    10 Blood Hunters (bows)

    List I have atm is:

    Mortathi (Mindrazor)
    Gotrek
    Hag (General, Devoted Disciples, Ignax Scales, Blessing of khaine)
    Hag (Catachism)
    30 Witch Aevles (shields)
    30 Sisters of Slaughter (shields)
    10 Witch Aelves (Daggers)
    100pts spare (could take 2 command points?) 

    Thoughts? 

    This tournament isnt hardcore 

    Also 2 towers list lol
    Gotrek
    Mortathi
    Hag on Cauldron
    Hag on Cauldron
    3 x 10 Witch Aelves

  7. DoK player wanting to do a IDK army to support Gotrek (Just for hard hitting list) as recently I wont the IDK book, box of thralls and the tidecaster

    Came up with:

    Ionarch
    Isharann Tidecaster (General)
    Isharann Soulscryer
    Isharann Soulrender
    10 Namarti Thralls
    10 Namarti Thralls
    10 Namarti Reavers
    6 Arkhelian Morrsaar Guard
    6 Arkhelian Morrsaar Guard
    Chronomantic cogs
     

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  8. 1 hour ago, Mutton said:

    Does anyone know what the ruling is for Gotrek's Avatar of Grimnir for multi-wound abilities? For instance, a Warp Lightning cannon's ABILITY lets it roll dice for 1 mortal wound per positive result...so do you reduce the total damage to 1, or do you resolve every mortal wound as if it were from a separate attack? Since it's an ability, I would think it'd reduce all damage to one, no matter how many extra mortal wounds you roll.

    If each successful wound is 1 MW, then it goes through

    His ability is when the damage value number is a D3/D6 or Number greater than 1. 

    he still gets a 3+ ward vs each wound though

  9. Had an idea for a Khailebron list for an upcoming tournament.

    Why Khailebron? The tournament is 5 games using a lot of random movement scenarios (Shifting, Places of Arcane, Blood and Glory, Starstrike, Relocation orb)

    This is not a hardcore event. There will be tough lists, but its not like what I will be looking at for LVO in Jan

    idea:

    Morathi (Mirror Dance)
    SQ on Cauldron (General) with Crimson Rejuvenation (Not sure what item to take. Hag brew, Croneblade, Scales and Thermalrider all good options)
    HagQueen (Catechism)
    Bloodwrack Medusa with Shadow Stone and Mindrazor
    3 x 10 Witch Aelves  (knives)
    30 Sisters of slaughter (Knives)
    2 x 5 Lifetakers
    Cauldron Guard

    6 drops

    Idea is to get msu Witch Aelves everywhere, Morathi being a constant threat turn 1, and Using lifetakers as support or for capping objectives they they move to a position I can capitalize 

    Turn 1 is basically Khaileborn Shadow thehag somewhere, making sure Morathi is out of range of dispel and in the 24" mirror bubble. Transform her and switch her out with the hag.

    Hag buff supports Sisters of slaughter. Army runs up but spread out (within 18 of cauldron). Maybe MR Morathi before she goes if worth it. 

    Morathi moves around, free to do so and heads for deadlist unit to hold up or great targets to smash up (A local guy is terrorizing the scene with 12 jezzails) 

    Turn 2, teleport some WE near Morathi but 9 from Enemy. If places right I can use the command ability to reroll charge, and with +1 for cauldron that can work well. Also, could drop down Lifetakers, try and put MR and Catachism on them for some tasty damage

    SOS are the big block to support and do combat damage

    Basically the army is pretty fast(why I was looking at thermal rider on SQ so she can run up and smash face)

    I wont be able to cast my 1 witch brew turn 1, as the mirror dance units have to be 6 inch away from another unit, but thats ok as Morathi will hopefully take the attention away and I can command point the battleshock test if needs be

    Anyway, just an idea I might try. it can be very tactical and if against some I cant chip off I can just jump on Objectives turn 1 and hold them for as long as I can while slowing the enemy with msu

  10. So the Morathi list I tried has lost 5 games straight (vs Slaanesh/Skaven) 

     am rolling back to before I ran Morathi and actually won games lol

    So, I am looking at this atm:

    Hagg Gnar
    SQ on Cauldron - general
    Devoted Disciples, Ignax scales, Catachism of murder

    Hag queen 
    Blessing of Khaine

    Hag Queen
    Sacrament of blood

    Bloodwrack Medua
    Mindrazor

    10 WE (2 knives)
    10 We (2 knives)
    30 Sos (knives)
    20 Blood Sisters 
    5 Lifetakers
    5 lifetakers
    Cauldron Guard

    I tried no batallion with 8 drops before and didnt do great

    Leaves me with 50pts and an item

    Can give the hag iron circlet or Medusa Shadowstone

    50pts could be an endless spell or command point. Maybe emerald lifeswarm for cauldron/snakes

    Thoughts?

    The other idea I had was:

     

    Hagg Gnar
    Hag on Cauldron - general
    Devoted Disciples, Ignax scales, blessing of khaine

    Hag queen (Catachism)

    Hag Queen (healing prayer)

    Bloodwrack Medua
    Mindrazor

    30 WE (bucklers)
    10 We (2 knives)
    30 Sos (knives)
    20 Blood Sisters 
    5 heartrenders
    5 heartrenders

    10 drops but 3 big units with 3 witch brews
     

  11. Could be easy enough. 

    Scenery: Some for of Alter of Khaine that gives bonus to units in range,  or gains points for models that die near it which can be spent like BoK chart

    Endless spell: Fury of Khaine (maybe a spectral avatar or something that does direct damage to a unit)

    I would love a better shooting unit, but it just doesnt fit the DoK theme. Same as armoured snakes/WE

    Maybe give us a Behemoth, something like a better Hydra

  12. Ok, so I am looking at two lists atm to use as a change from the old one, mainly as the change in local meta might need it.

    List 1:

    Hagg Nar
    Morathi (Mindrazor)
    Hag Queen (Catachism)
    Hag Queen (Sacrament)
    Slaughter Queen on Cauldron (General, Devoted Disciples, Blessing of Khaine, Glyphfeather pendant)
    30 Witch aelves
    30 Sisters of Slaughter
    10 Witch Aelves
    10 Blood Sisters
    Malevolent Maelstorm


    List 2:

    Hagg Nar

    Bloodwrack Medusa (mindrazor)
    Knight Incantor

    Hag Queen (Catachism)
    Hag Queen (Sacrament)
    Slaughter Queen on Cauldron (General, Devoted Disciples, Blessing of Khaine, Glyphfeather pendant)
    30 Witch aelves
    30 Sisters of Slaughter
    10 Witch Aelves
    20 Blood Sisters
    Malevolent Maelstorm

    I tired ironcirclet on the SQ but I missed the -1 to hit (****** skaven Jezzails)


    I dropped having Khinaris as for 80 – 90pts for 5 5w low attacks I would rather than the extra core models

    Local tournament top 10 recently saw 3 slaanesh, 3 Fec, Grotz, skaven tide and 2 stormcast

    No DoK players and I didn’t attend this one.

  13. I am not sure why everyone gets their backs up about this. Unless the top players who play test for GW agree, GW are not gonna do anything about it so you kinda just have to get used to it. The fact Ben Johnson plays HoS and doesnt agree means nothings gonna happen.

  14. 5 hours ago, Isabel said:

     

    Temple Nest Battalion
    - Bloodwrack Shrine, General
    - 5 Blood Sisters
    - 5 Blood Sisters
    - 10 Blood Sisters
    - 5 Blood Stalkers
    - 5 Blood Stalkers
    - 5 Blood Stalkers

    Cauldron Guard Battalion
    - Hag Queen
    - 10 Witch Aelves
    - 10 Witch Aelves
    - 5 Khinerai Lifetakers
    - 5 Khinerai Lifetakers

    Total 1940 pts

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Bloodwrack Medusa

    Hag Queen

    Temple Nest Battalion
    - Bloodwrack Shrine, General
    - 5 Blood Sisters
    - 5 Blood Sisters
    - 5 Blood Stalkers
    - 5 Blood Stalkers

    Cauldron Guard Battalion
    - Hag Queen on Cauldron of Blood
    - 10 Witch Aelves
    - 10 Witch Aelves
    - 5 Khinerai Lifetakers
    - 5 Khinerai Lifetakers

    Total 1960 pts

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Morathi

    Hag Queen

    Slaughter Queen

    Temple Nest Battalion
    - Bloodwrack Shrine, General
    - 5 Blood Sisters
    - 5 Blood Sisters
    - 10 Blood Sisters
    - 5 Blood Stalkers
    - 5 Blood Stalkers
    - 5 Blood Stalkers

    Total 2000 pts

     

    Hello and welcome :)

    Only things I would suggest are:

    1: a second hag for each list. Hags are really important. Prayers are great but Witch Brew is amazing.

    2: Id make the blood sisters into units of 10. 10 with witch brew and prayers are really powerful. 5, are ok, but you only have so many buffs you can throw out.

    Both of these can let you have two buffed units of Snakes that hit hard

  15. 1 hour ago, Sobakaa said:

    What's the point of knight incantor? Outside of 1 guaranteed unbind and some suicide action he's basically a medusa without access to racial spells.

    Helps slow enermy charges and cast maelstorm

     

    I also like:

    Slaughterqueen on cauldron - general
    Blessing of khaine, iron circlet

    Hagqueen - catachism

    Hagqueen - sacrament

    Morathi

    30 Witch Alves

    30 Sisters of Slaughter

    10 Witch Aleves

    10 Blood Sisters
     

     

  16. Lost the 1st game with the list I was 5-0 with, Vs Slaanesh last night

    I tabled his army but sadly it was relocation orb, he made me go 1st and the orb moved to his corner both times, them stayed in his area rather than jumping back to the middle.

    Game woulda been mine turn 3 but he got the double

    Ended 8vp vs 7vp

    I had 26 WE, 10 Snakes, 5 heart renders, 5 sos, a hag and the medusa left vs his whole army dead inc 80 odd depravity points of summoned stuff

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  17. 2 hours ago, Lucentia said:

    Versus Slaanesh I like Morathi on the board and Sisters of Slaughter as key pieces.  Morathi can pin Keepers and other heroes in place and will only give up 3 depravity points in the process, and Sisters of Slaughter can dodge the Locus of Diversion if you're careful with placement.  I think Slaanesh versus DoK is actually quite an interesting, generally close, match-up, but it takes some practice to come out on top!

    Versus FEC you're mostly going to want to be very careful with your screening to try and bait out their big monster/flayer/horror charges, Sisters of Slaughter can again be quite useful here, really.  Try and unbind the spell that boosts their movement/adds run and charge if you can, that can really leave them in the lurch.

    Morathi again. Balls 

    Gonna have to make her fit in my list huh

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