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What do people think of 10 Shadow warriors (160pts, 1 shot 3+/4+ and 2 attacks in combat. 160pts and now can deepstrike 9") in a DoK list now?
Same points as 2 x 5 Khinari for same number of wounds and more attacks -
5 hours ago, Kamose said:
Don't mind me. Just gonna set this Lifeswarm over by my little angry dwarf friend with his orange mohawk. 😉
Oh yeah, plus gotrek obvs. Hes great
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Phoenix guard Battleline
Frosthearts with Anointed
Some fire support (Maybe stormcast)
Phoenix Battalions (heals units within 12)
Lifeswarm (Heals D6 over D3 as special endless spell rules for freecities)
Sounds like fun- 1
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31 minutes ago, Zanzou said:
Or use him correctly..!
Totally lol
My first game with him he got into combat turn 2, and killed 880pts of stuff in 3 turns. It was total commitment and i just sent him by himself after an objective. He died but did alot. Probably woulda done more but as it was vs legion of grief the immunity to rend slowed him slightly- 1
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Baking tray in a card box with Magnets on the bases
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I mean it may get wrecked, but thats ok if I have fun. I have LVO to go all "hardcore" on so this is more chill. We actually have had a charity 1 day event pop up on the 6th of oct so may run it then and see
Played with this last night and I got a win at the bottom of my 3rd (delayed due to him getting double turn)
Morathi
Gotrek
Hag (General, Devoted Disciples, Ignax Scales, Blessing of khaine)
30 Sisters of Slaughter (shields)
10 Witch Aelves
10 Witch Aelves
10 Witch Aelves
Gotrek was a beast, killing 880pts inc the general due to him leaving a gap big enough to charge through. He did die though, as 1 turn he took 4 wounds from Dreadscythe Harridans, another 2 the turn later from black knights (rolled double 1's) and his last wound popped from the necromancer arcane bolt. So him living really relies on rolling better lol
He killed a Mournghoul, 5 black knights, 5 Dire wolves, 20 DreadScythe Harridans, Dreadblade Harrow
Morathi struggled to kill as much as he kept making his saves as rend has no affect
It was total commitment, but I think i might drop 10 Witch Aelves and with their points and the 40 I had left grab 2 units of lifetakers. Puts me at 8 drops which isnt bad
Or 5 Doomfire warlocks. 7 drops then, some shooting support and their spell plus maybe take shroud of despair- 1
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1 hour ago, Graywater said:
Your first list seems strong, presenting 4 real threats. I'm more interested in your second list, the "towers". It's light on numbers, but it's different. A lot of daughters lists tend to look a bit samey, so something like that stands out. I have no idea on how well itll do, but a 1 day local event is the low stakes environment to give it a shot. Gotrek and morathi also both present very unique problems for your opponent, so double teaming with them is an interesting concept.
Yeah I like the two towers list also. Could be fun and packs a punch.
I am building the 2nd Cauldron atm (I have one but missing the avatar, but local friend giving me the old metal one which will give the cauldrons a good difference)
List I am going to try tonight, just to get the feel of things is this:Morathi
Gotrek
Hag (General, Devoted Disciples, Ignax Scales, Blessing of khaine)
30 Sisters of Slaughter (shields)
10 Witch Aelves
10 Witch Aelves
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Or the towers list! was chatting to jack about doing this one
Morathi
Gotrek
Hag on cauldron, general, devoted disciples, Ignax scales, Blessing of khaine
Hag on Cauldron, Catachism of murder
3 x 10 Witch Aelves
Thats a lot of damage output and tanky models with both cauldrons on a 4+/5+. One with 4+ vs mortal wounds and then the same one or the other with blessing if needs be -
So I really fancy taking a DoK Gotrek list to a local tournament. Current meta isnt affecting it, and Top 7 at a recent event was:
Blades of Khorne
Blades of Khorne
Grand Host of Nagash
Skaven
Blades of Khorne
Fyreslayers
Skaven
I own:
Gotrek
Morathi
Cauldron x 2
Medusa
10 Heart Renders (10 Life takers on the way)
10 Doomfire warlocks
2 Hags
Knight Incantor
40 Witch Elves
30 Sisters of Slaughter
20 Blood Sister
10 Blood Hunters (bows)
List I have atm is:
Mortathi (Mindrazor)
Gotrek
Hag (General, Devoted Disciples, Ignax Scales, Blessing of khaine)
Hag (Catachism)
30 Witch Aevles (shields)
30 Sisters of Slaughter (shields)
10 Witch Aelves (Daggers)
100pts spare (could take 2 command points?)
Thoughts?
This tournament isnt hardcore
Also 2 towers list lol
Gotrek
Mortathi
Hag on Cauldron
Hag on Cauldron
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DoK player wanting to do a IDK army to support Gotrek (Just for hard hitting list) as recently I wont the IDK book, box of thralls and the tidecaster
Came up with:
Ionarch
Isharann Tidecaster (General)
Isharann Soulscryer
Isharann Soulrender
10 Namarti Thralls
10 Namarti Thralls
10 Namarti Reavers
6 Arkhelian Morrsaar Guard
6 Arkhelian Morrsaar Guard
Chronomantic cogs
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1 hour ago, Mutton said:
Does anyone know what the ruling is for Gotrek's Avatar of Grimnir for multi-wound abilities? For instance, a Warp Lightning cannon's ABILITY lets it roll dice for 1 mortal wound per positive result...so do you reduce the total damage to 1, or do you resolve every mortal wound as if it were from a separate attack? Since it's an ability, I would think it'd reduce all damage to one, no matter how many extra mortal wounds you roll.
If each successful wound is 1 MW, then it goes through
His ability is when the damage value number is a D3/D6 or Number greater than 1.
he still gets a 3+ ward vs each wound though -
Had an idea for a Khailebron list for an upcoming tournament.
Why Khailebron? The tournament is 5 games using a lot of random movement scenarios (Shifting, Places of Arcane, Blood and Glory, Starstrike, Relocation orb)
This is not a hardcore event. There will be tough lists, but its not like what I will be looking at for LVO in Jan
idea:
Morathi (Mirror Dance)
SQ on Cauldron (General) with Crimson Rejuvenation (Not sure what item to take. Hag brew, Croneblade, Scales and Thermalrider all good options)
HagQueen (Catechism)
Bloodwrack Medusa with Shadow Stone and Mindrazor
3 x 10 Witch Aelves (knives)
30 Sisters of slaughter (Knives)
2 x 5 Lifetakers
Cauldron Guard
6 drops
Idea is to get msu Witch Aelves everywhere, Morathi being a constant threat turn 1, and Using lifetakers as support or for capping objectives they they move to a position I can capitalize
Turn 1 is basically Khaileborn Shadow thehag somewhere, making sure Morathi is out of range of dispel and in the 24" mirror bubble. Transform her and switch her out with the hag.
Hag buff supports Sisters of slaughter. Army runs up but spread out (within 18 of cauldron). Maybe MR Morathi before she goes if worth it.
Morathi moves around, free to do so and heads for deadlist unit to hold up or great targets to smash up (A local guy is terrorizing the scene with 12 jezzails)
Turn 2, teleport some WE near Morathi but 9 from Enemy. If places right I can use the command ability to reroll charge, and with +1 for cauldron that can work well. Also, could drop down Lifetakers, try and put MR and Catachism on them for some tasty damage
SOS are the big block to support and do combat damage
Basically the army is pretty fast(why I was looking at thermal rider on SQ so she can run up and smash face)
I wont be able to cast my 1 witch brew turn 1, as the mirror dance units have to be 6 inch away from another unit, but thats ok as Morathi will hopefully take the attention away and I can command point the battleshock test if needs be
Anyway, just an idea I might try. it can be very tactical and if against some I cant chip off I can just jump on Objectives turn 1 and hold them for as long as I can while slowing the enemy with msu -
So the Morathi list I tried has lost 5 games straight (vs Slaanesh/Skaven)
am rolling back to before I ran Morathi and actually won games lol
So, I am looking at this atm:
Hagg Gnar
SQ on Cauldron - general
Devoted Disciples, Ignax scales, Catachism of murder
Hag queen
Blessing of Khaine
Hag Queen
Sacrament of blood
Bloodwrack Medua
Mindrazor
10 WE (2 knives)
10 We (2 knives)
30 Sos (knives)
20 Blood Sisters
5 Lifetakers
5 lifetakers
Cauldron Guard
I tried no batallion with 8 drops before and didnt do great
Leaves me with 50pts and an item
Can give the hag iron circlet or Medusa Shadowstone
50pts could be an endless spell or command point. Maybe emerald lifeswarm for cauldron/snakes
Thoughts?The other idea I had was:
Hagg Gnar
Hag on Cauldron - general
Devoted Disciples, Ignax scales, blessing of khaine
Hag queen (Catachism)
Hag Queen (healing prayer)
Bloodwrack Medua
Mindrazor30 WE (bucklers)
10 We (2 knives)
30 Sos (knives)
20 Blood Sisters
5 heartrenders
5 heartrenders10 drops but 3 big units with 3 witch brews
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Anyone thinking Gotrek in a DoK list?
Hes very very smashy and really hard to kill. Only downside is mv4
rough draft:
Gotrek
HQ on Cauldron
Hag Queen
Bloodwrack
3 x 10 WE (chaff clear/screens)
20 Snakes (main hitty unit)
5 Heartrenders
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Could be easy enough.
Scenery: Some for of Alter of Khaine that gives bonus to units in range, or gains points for models that die near it which can be spent like BoK chart
Endless spell: Fury of Khaine (maybe a spectral avatar or something that does direct damage to a unit)
I would love a better shooting unit, but it just doesnt fit the DoK theme. Same as armoured snakes/WE
Maybe give us a Behemoth, something like a better Hydra -
Do skaven get their leadership bonus vs ours for purpose of mind razor?
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Ok, so I am looking at two lists atm to use as a change from the old one, mainly as the change in local meta might need it.
List 1:Hagg Nar
Morathi (Mindrazor)
Hag Queen (Catachism)
Hag Queen (Sacrament)
Slaughter Queen on Cauldron (General, Devoted Disciples, Blessing of Khaine, Glyphfeather pendant)
30 Witch aelves
30 Sisters of Slaughter
10 Witch Aelves
10 Blood Sisters
Malevolent Maelstorm
List 2:
Hagg Nar
Bloodwrack Medusa (mindrazor)
Knight Incantor
Hag Queen (Catachism)
Hag Queen (Sacrament)
Slaughter Queen on Cauldron (General, Devoted Disciples, Blessing of Khaine, Glyphfeather pendant)
30 Witch aelves
30 Sisters of Slaughter
10 Witch Aelves
20 Blood Sisters
Malevolent Maelstorm
I tired ironcirclet on the SQ but I missed the -1 to hit (****** skaven Jezzails)
I dropped having Khinaris as for 80 – 90pts for 5 5w low attacks I would rather than the extra core models
Local tournament top 10 recently saw 3 slaanesh, 3 Fec, Grotz, skaven tide and 2 stormcast
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I am not sure why everyone gets their backs up about this. Unless the top players who play test for GW agree, GW are not gonna do anything about it so you kinda just have to get used to it. The fact Ben Johnson plays HoS and doesnt agree means nothings gonna happen.
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5 hours ago, Isabel said:
Temple Nest Battalion
- Bloodwrack Shrine, General
- 5 Blood Sisters
- 5 Blood Sisters
- 10 Blood Sisters
- 5 Blood Stalkers
- 5 Blood Stalkers
- 5 Blood Stalkers
Cauldron Guard Battalion
- Hag Queen
- 10 Witch Aelves
- 10 Witch Aelves
- 5 Khinerai Lifetakers
- 5 Khinerai LifetakersTotal 1940 pts
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Bloodwrack Medusa
Hag Queen
Temple Nest Battalion
- Bloodwrack Shrine, General
- 5 Blood Sisters
- 5 Blood Sisters
- 5 Blood Stalkers
- 5 Blood Stalkers
Cauldron Guard Battalion
- Hag Queen on Cauldron of Blood
- 10 Witch Aelves
- 10 Witch Aelves
- 5 Khinerai Lifetakers
- 5 Khinerai LifetakersTotal 1960 pts
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Morathi
Hag Queen
Slaughter Queen
Temple Nest Battalion
- Bloodwrack Shrine, General
- 5 Blood Sisters
- 5 Blood Sisters
- 10 Blood Sisters
- 5 Blood Stalkers
- 5 Blood Stalkers
- 5 Blood StalkersTotal 2000 pts
Hello and welcome
Only things I would suggest are:
1: a second hag for each list. Hags are really important. Prayers are great but Witch Brew is amazing.
2: Id make the blood sisters into units of 10. 10 with witch brew and prayers are really powerful. 5, are ok, but you only have so many buffs you can throw out.
Both of these can let you have two buffed units of Snakes that hit hard -
So England won the ETC, but more interestingly Jack Armstrongs list got most TP and 1st individual overall
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1 hour ago, Sobakaa said:
What's the point of knight incantor? Outside of 1 guaranteed unbind and some suicide action he's basically a medusa without access to racial spells.
Helps slow enermy charges and cast maelstorm
I also like:
Slaughterqueen on cauldron - general
Blessing of khaine, iron circlet
Hagqueen - catachism
Hagqueen - sacramentMorathi
30 Witch Alves
30 Sisters of Slaughter
10 Witch Aleves
10 Blood Sisters
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Just had this idea, thoughts?
Slaughterqueen on cauldron - general
Blessing of khaine, gluphfeather charm
Hagqueen - catachism
Hagqueen - sacrament
Bloodwrack medusa
Knight Incantor
30 Witch Alves
30 Sisters of Slaughter
10 Witch Aleves
20 Blood Sisters
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Lost the 1st game with the list I was 5-0 with, Vs Slaanesh last night
I tabled his army but sadly it was relocation orb, he made me go 1st and the orb moved to his corner both times, them stayed in his area rather than jumping back to the middle.
Game woulda been mine turn 3 but he got the double
Ended 8vp vs 7vp
I had 26 WE, 10 Snakes, 5 heart renders, 5 sos, a hag and the medusa left vs his whole army dead inc 80 odd depravity points of summoned stuff- 1
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2 hours ago, Lucentia said:
Versus Slaanesh I like Morathi on the board and Sisters of Slaughter as key pieces. Morathi can pin Keepers and other heroes in place and will only give up 3 depravity points in the process, and Sisters of Slaughter can dodge the Locus of Diversion if you're careful with placement. I think Slaanesh versus DoK is actually quite an interesting, generally close, match-up, but it takes some practice to come out on top!
Versus FEC you're mostly going to want to be very careful with your screening to try and bait out their big monster/flayer/horror charges, Sisters of Slaughter can again be quite useful here, really. Try and unbind the spell that boosts their movement/adds run and charge if you can, that can really leave them in the lurch.
Morathi again. Balls
Gonna have to make her fit in my list huh
AoS 2 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion
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Sadly they can't allie with PG (well on the app) but yeah 30pg with an annointed would be a amazing anvil.
Just checked app and shadow warriors are only 110 from 160. Mistake?