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28 minutes ago, Rebluff said:
I really hope they focused on the CA interaction and not Morathi herself. Morathi is an awesome character, but she saw the representation she did because her CA let blood stalkers vomit out 60 shots per turn.
Without that Command Ability, I personally think she'd probably be too expensive now. Let alone after some nerfs.
CA stayed the same but its once a game now
The faction heroic action cant be used by monster so shadow queen doesnt benefit from it-
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41 minutes ago, Mutton said:
How hard was Morathi bonked?
not at all
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5 minutes ago, Tzanna said:
The very question. Is it a fun codex? Is it limited on 1-2 lists or more?
We have a load of options and lots of outside options also
All sub factions have play
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Just now, KrispyXIV said:
You got access to sources, or links for more information?
I'm dieing to start putting together a fuller picture of things, and the trickle I've gotten so far is just frustrating
I know they implied the Medusas are going to have a mechanism for +1 Blood Rites, but what is it?
Avatars seem a lot better in general now, but what sort of cost increase is attached?
Devoted Disciples being gone is unsurprising, but what Command Traits made the cut?
Did any of the subfactions see surprising changes from their current basic trait?
Yes...but cant share atm. Nda lifts Sat
medusa do have a mechanic to give a unit of snakes +1 (can only go on 1 unit, but 2 can put on different units)
No surprises to sub factions, they all got knocked down to 1 thing really. Hagg nar is +1 to rites, Khelibron is teleport, draichi run and charge yadda yadda yadda
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There is a number of key changes in the book
We have a ton of diversity and options now and all subfactions will see play
Haggnar 5++ is confirmed gone though
We also have a ton of ways to get +1 to blood rites now so you can easily have 1 or 2 units on turn 2/3 at max rites-
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30 minutes ago, KrispyXIV said:
I'm pretty sure I saw a larger version of the Pitched Battles Profiles entry that included Cauldrons as Behemoths that included a note for Hagg Narr that allows for an extra Cauldron that doesn't take a Behemoth slot... which would allow for 5, so long as one of them is a Cauldron.
Yes, HaggNar gives a SQ cauldron or HQ cauldron for "free" in terms of behemoth
My HaggNar list is
HaggNar
HagQueen on Cauldron
HagQueen on Cauldron
Bloodwrack Medusa
Bloodwrack Medusa
10 Witch Aelves
10 Witch Aelves
10 Witch Aelves
10 Blood Sisters
Avatar of Khaine
Avatar of Khaine
Avatar of Khaine
Heart of Fury
Emerald Life Swarm
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1st leaks popped up, interesting mini changes to limited reinforcements and behemoths
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Any of you crazy kids going to Open Series Seattle?
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Still time to sign up for the GW Open Series in Seattle,
Will be a great weekend with 5 games vs all levels of gamer. So even if brand new this will be a good intro event
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/us-open-seattle-age-of-sigmar-grand-tournament-tickets-291975124457
good intro event for new players
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1 hour ago, LeviathanL said:
I think if Umbraneth are planned anytime soon, the dok battletome will have them listed as allies or coalition. I saw that tease as the only reason to update their battletome so soon.
While I'd love that, I'd also be happy with darkling covens as coalition option, perhaps in a har kuron subfaction. Based on the underworld band males are less discriminated against now maybe.
naa they would just add it in the future FAQ's
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27 minutes ago, Fellman said:
It was expected we would lose rerolls, and with 5 being a 5+ ward for whole army, unless they reword devoted disciples that will effect haggnar 5++ bubble
Nice its worded ward though
Being able to get witchaelves/sos to 2+ to wound is nuts. Looks like we are going to be total glass cannons
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Least we are getting more shadowstalkers
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9 hours ago, Maogrim said:
I really wish DoK would get Maleneth Witchblade (Gotrek's assassin companion) as an assassin / shadowstalker style hero. But much like @Chumphammer I'm pretty convinced we'll just get the Gladriatrix and some more streamlined rules and fewer artifacts. Maybe Khinerai as battleline for Khelt'Nar.
Id love Khinari for BL Khelt Nar,
Id also love Shadow Stalkers for battle line in Khelibron.
I think it would open up a lot more play styles and variety-
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22 hours ago, Rebluff said:
Severely nerfing Morathi's command ability without significantly altering the way the rest of the army plays is...more or less a death sentence to be honest. Aelves are currently trash and the price cuts they'd have to make to get them viable with their current defensive statline would make them such a blowout unit that people would be nostalgic for Bow snakes. Appropriately priced (80-90pts) Horde mode witch aelves become a DPS check for every other faction. Either you can kill enough to blunt their charge and you win, or you can't and you lose.
The army has been broken since the previous battletome gutted our melee options. We've been getting by on 1 extremely busted interaction and honestly don't have much to fall back on. Morathi+15 bows snakes takes up1560 points minimum including battle line and that alone is a stronger setup than any 2000pt list DoK can put on the table that doesn't include those two units.
Thats funny as I havent used Morathi and 15 bowsnakes and I am doing fine. You dont need morathi and 15 bowsnakes to do well, its a crutch
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So Some latest Underworlds rumours point towards Malerion Umberneath coming
1st:
from last year and both the top 2 have happened
2nd:
Stormcast hit both sides from Skaven and A shadowstalker looking aelf
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"A new darkness surrounds you. Water scales the walls, which shift with unnatural affect. At your feet, tendrils throng and pulse – but the light of a torch reveals nothing but brackish water.
Your mind scrabbles through past mysteries. What penumbral forces control this dread realm?"
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New rumour and the boots look very much old Dark elf style especially darkblade
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I think we wont get much changes. Like IDK we will come out relatively the same.
Morathi command ability will become once a game or changed
We will lose rerolls and will probably get +1's to stuff
honestly only think I would "wish" for would be Hellebron. Shes mentioned in newer publication's and we only have Morathi/Morgwaeth as names heroes atm so might be nice to have another option. I would also love to be able to use the new massive avatars but doubt it unless they have a sneaky aos mini changed one
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19 hours ago, zilberfrid said:
That's awful. It depends on the survivability of your heroes how useful it is, but points cost doesn't reflect that.
So if your army can already survive hero smacking, it's great, if not, its presence reduces your options.
At least Morathi is happy with it.
Named heroes cant use the incarnate, as its an enhancement.
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6 minutes ago, Jaskier said:
Cheers for that. Not quite sure what to make of the Incarnate, but a brand new unit type (of sorts) is cool to see.
Yeah its...different.
For my DOK I mean it could give me a monster (we only have Morathi) and a +1 to maybe get mindrazor off, but tbh I dont see endless spells that often and since its going to a lot easier to drop its level then raise it.
I mean could be fun with Kragnos, Loonboss on Squig and 48 Squigs (plus whatever you can fit)
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Someone sent me to Incarnate Warscroll and rules, KO WD updates so I posted them up on Twitter @chumphammer as we cant post the pictures here
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I can see Morathi's CA being similar but maybe table wide and once per game. Means you dont have to keep her near but its also not as OP (similar to the stormcast Holy order things)
Maybe it will be Khaines blessings and you can pick one to use
I would like to see prayers pushed more as a big thing for DOK. We are one of the few factions with solid prayer access and should be more of a power over magic
Would also love more speed/chaff. WE should be cheap and expendable, in the books they are basically cannon fodder fanatics.
Would love to see a Khinari hero and options to push Khinari, as atm I just don't rate them
Would also love to see a new Avatar sculpt or a access to the 40k avatar, but i am not holding my breath for anymore new models -
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New dok hero
100pts
M6, 6w, 5+ B8
3" 4 x 3+ 4+ -1 1
1" 2 x 3+ 4+ -1 1
6" pile in
12" wholly within wound changes daggers and whips to 3+ to wound and rend 1
Killing stroke ability from earlier
she's ok but nothing worth changing for unless you do a draichi faction that's +2 rend on charge, -3 w MR, but then you just die like Nats to a lighter and aerosol
Other scrolls
Bucklers workers shooting now
Khinari don't need a 4+ after shooting to move, just can move for free 6"
Doomfires can have spell from book
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17 hours ago, Lord Krungharr said:
I wasn't able to play this year in the big Championships; anyone know which army/list won and/or placed in the top 3 or 5? Can't seem to find anyone who knows, and I've asked 7 people who played there (they did confirm a Nurgle player was amongst the 5-0 crowd, which is pretty surprising to me, thought they were too many points now).
The Nurgle player was 4-1 and won best overall, but then their (the events) paper results seemed to be wrong and the rescinded the award a day later
A lot of fallout coming from it as it means a lot of the other results could be wrong and no final standings/full results have been posted.
Mods I would suggest maybe locking the thread as its a hot argument topic on twitter and this is me trying to be diplomatic about it
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On 3/16/2022 at 4:23 AM, Dave8210 said:
Can anyone offer thoughts on a Path to Glory army? We are starting at 600 points.
my initial plan is basically a Medusa, Ironscale and then 2 units of shooty snakes for 595 points.
I’ve only got a couple of days to build and paint these up, is it a good start to a campaign? I fear I’m short on bodies. I’m not sure of the opposition as I don’t know the group I’m playing with too well. Although I do believe one will be Lumineth and one Mortal Slaanesh.Tbh 1 hero in 600pts is enough, doubt you need 2. PTG is more about the different scenarios where holding an obj isnt always the thing
On another note, this is some of the 1st info of the new hero
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AoS 3 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion
in Daughters of Khaine
Posted
This stuff went up on the whattsapp group. Added notes on stuff that wrong or question mark
Temples:
Hagg Nar: +1 Blood Rites, can have a cauldron as a free behemoth
Khelt Nar: retreat and charge
Khailebron: CA teleport at end of movement
Draichi: extra -1 rend on WE and SoS
Zainthar Kai: snakes attack when they die (and snakes battleline)
Kraith: SoS can fight again on 4+
Other generic stuff:
Spell lore: mirror dance got changed back to 1.0 version
New command trait: 4+ rally
New artefact: shutting down inspiring presence and rally within 9", goes to 15" if you kill a model. (Not new but old crown of woe rewritten)
Leaders:
Morathi: 680 points, CA is 18” now, no more +1 to cast.
Hag Queen: Witchbrew back to automatic again, but changed to +1 to blood rite.
SQ on Cauldron: has +1 to prayers now (wholly within 9")
Units:
Witch Aelves and SoS: Bucklers give +1 to save characteristic now.
Spear snakes: Doing mw’s on 2+ now (if within 1 after unit attacks)
Heartrenders: no more extra rend when set-up.
Lifetakers: no more extra rend on the charge. (Also still 4+ to move)
Points:
680 Morathi
110 Hag Queen
90 Gladiatrix
315 SQ on Cauldron
130 Medusa
115 Ironscale
150 Khainite Shadowstalkers
180 Blood Stalkers
140 Blood Sister
120 Witch Aelves (actually 115)
95 Khinerai Heartenders