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    The Rumour Thread

    in Age of Sigmar Discussions

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    39 minutes ago, JerekKruger said:

    I'm very confused: FEC is going up for pre-order in three days and no one has leaked the Battletome. Usually I'd have expected it to be leaked before we even got the World Championships preview. Truly up in down, black is white, and noble knights are flesh eating ghouls!

    I'm wondering if they've tightened things up of late and maybe only sent the influencers models this time

    AoS Cities of Sigmar Battletome 2023 Discussion

    in Cities of Sigmar

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    13 hours ago, frielock said:

    So I had an army planned out and the points change for fusiliers and warforger messed it up, 

    But this is what I'm at right now and not sure if I'm splitting my attention up too much and should focus my list more on shootiness and not worry so much about magic and melee

    (it will include pontifex zenestra for an even 2k points but couldnt find her in the GW warscroll builder?)

    Any thoughts or suggestions my opponents in the campaign are going to be Ironjawz, OBR, SBGL, and skaven

    Allegiance: Cities of Sigmar
    - City: Lethis
    - Grand Strategy:
    - Triumphs:

    Leaders
    Alchemite Warforger (110)
    - General
    - Universal Spell Lore: Flaming Weapon
    Sorceress (100)
    - Lore of Dark Sorcery: Tenebrael Blades
    Haskel Hexbane (180)
    Lord-Relictor (130)
    - Universal Prayer Scripture: Curse
    - Allies

    Battleline
    10 x Freeguild Steelhelms (100)
    11 x Wildercorps Hunters (140)
    10 x Freeguild Steelhelms (100)

    Units
    5 x Hexbane's Hunters (0)
    6 x Freeguild Command Corps (170)
    20 x Freeguild Fusiliers (340)
    - Reinforced x 1
    10 x Executioners (170)
    5 x Freeguild Cavaliers (180)
    10 x Flagellants (100)

    Total: 1820 / 2000
    Reinforced Units: 1 / 4
    Allies: 130 / 400
    Wounds: 130
    Drops: 13
     

    I don't think this is a bad start, however I'm not sure what the flagellants are really doing for you other than being  a  screen, which you already have a lot of in the steel helms and the wilder corps to some extent. I'd be looking at trying to fit 5 more cavaliers and a cavalier marshall in somehow if i were you

    The Rumour Thread

    in Age of Sigmar Discussions

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    53 minutes ago, Beliman said:

    What's that "void" thing that people talk about? 

    I've never heared or read about it.

    Some dude called lele keeps rattling on about them but nobody can make sense of his comments. They aren’t a thing that is coming out and I suspect he is a troll at this point.

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    The Rumour Thread

    in Age of Sigmar Discussions

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    12 minutes ago, DinoJon said:

    I have no reason to buy the Seraphon Vanguard but my lizard brain is telling me to buy it. 

    I was really hopeful we would be getting a new Sigmar Novel with the launch of the Cities but it's just a collection of stories previously published. It's been a drought for for Black Library post Blightslayer right? 

    I’m glad it’s out, as it has the last few bits I want to round out my Seraphon list. Looks like it’s going to be an expensive Saturday for me. 

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    The Rumour Thread

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    8 hours ago, Mitzrael said:

    Really strange they didn't reveal the box during FEST. It seems we have a pattern- a dual box, then 2 battletomes for armies inside. It will be 3rd bb so far in 2022, so it'll be like 6 battleboxes this year? I like it, cause I rather collect than play and every discount counts ;). 

    Heard a rumour that there is no box this time....

    Price increase on GW Products (coming 7th March)

    in Age of Sigmar Discussions

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    15 minutes ago, yukishiro1 said:

    Yeah, if this was the first GW price increases in years I think people would be a lot more willing to accept the "economic climate" rationale. But it isn't. GW raises prices every year. It's a "boy who cries wolf" sort of situation. Maybe this time there really is good economic justification for the price increase...if they hadn't already increased prices multiple times during boom times. 

    GW's answer to every situation is raise prices. Great economic climate? Raise prices. Bad economic climate? Raise prices. Sunny today? Raise prices. Rainy tomorrow? Raise prices. Do that often enough and people are going to rightly stop taking your PR seriously. 

    This is an elective decision GW made to prioritize maintaining their already extraordinary margins. It's a decision they can make, it's not illegal or anything. But that is what's going on here. It's a bit pathetic to see GW pleading economic conditions when great economic conditions never stopped it from increasing prices before. One of the rationales people used to support those prior price increases was that it'd cushion GW from the need to adjust prices to match the economic cycle...well, that obviously didn't turn out to be true. 

     

     

     

     

     

    Gotta keep those shareholders happy. I’d planned to get some bits for a slow grow stormcast force I’ve started but I’ll be honest this has left a sour taste in my mouth so I ended up getting some mcp stuff instead.

    Price increase on GW Products (coming 7th March)

    in Age of Sigmar Discussions

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    I do feel the price increases are going to price out a lot of people and a lot of potential customers will peace out when they see the prices. 
     

    i very rarely buy from gw direct these days but new people to the hobby don’t necessarily know about other places to buy from, this will certainly impact a lot of impulse buys, and if books go up to £36 rrp that is insane considering they seem to have less content in them now. 

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    Stormcast Eternals 3.0 - There is no "a" in Vindictors

    in Stormcast Eternals

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    59 minutes ago, Freejack02 said:

    After the warscrolls got updated... I agree with @AdamR that hammers are just superior in every way but shooting range. If they let the Prime get an extra attack with the Trident/Greatweapon it would be closer, but paired hammers just do it better in this edition (I think to everyone's surprise). 

    The real question is - what do they really excel at? Finding squishy support heroes and taking them out is about the only real use I can see on paper. 

    I think looking cool as ****** is what they really excel at 🤣

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    Stormcast Eternals 3.0 - There is no "a" in Vindictors

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    1 hour ago, Beliman said:

    That's one of the most dificult things to do in AoS. All competitive armies have a "core" of one or two units that are spammed and only a few points are diferent from one competitive list to another. There are only a few armies that don't follow the same pattern.

    Btw, taking other suboptimal units to complete your roster can still push you to a 3-2 wins. That's really good for an army that don't spam their units.

     

    having just looked at the list ive written, I *might* be spamming prosecutors 

     

    Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals - Stormhost: Tempest Lords - Mortal Realm: Ghur - Grand Strategy: Hold the Line - Triumphs: LEADERS

    Celestant-Prime, Hammer of Sigmar (325)

    Knight-Venator (175) - General

    Knight-Vexillor with Banner of Apotheosis (160)

    Lord-Arcanum on Celestial Dracoline (200)

    UNITS

    6 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (230)

    3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (115)

    3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (115)

    5 x Vindictors (130)

    10 x Vanquishers (250)

    3 x Evocators on Celestial Dracolines (280)

     

    im sure it will be terrible and the evocators and arcanum could deffo be swapped ( not sure what for thobut it is going to look amazing on the table) not sure why i typed hallowed knights in an earlier comment, stupid brain.

    Stormcast Eternals 3.0 - There is no "a" in Vindictors

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    5 hours ago, readercolin said:

    I don't think it is stormcast, I think it is "spam" armies that people hate losing to.

    For example, I don't get a lot of salt when I bring out my mixed arms forces with longstrikes + fulminators + infantry + hero's.  It feels like there are a number of things going on that my opponent can react to, and they feel like they are in the game.

    However, I tend to see a lot of salt to losing to spam armies.  50 sentinels.  60 pink horrors.  10 dragons.  4 megagargants.  A lot of spam armies tend to lean into a single warscroll that does one thing well, which means that spam armies tend to have more lopsided matches where they win harder against what they beat and lose harder against what counters them.  And when someone ends up playing against a spam army, it all comes down to "does this spam beat me?" because then it feels less like the game is decided in the game itself and more decided in army building, and the player doesn't feel like they are even in the game at any point.

    Finally, people tend to feel saltier when they don't feel like they were ever in the game at all.  Did your dice betray you from turn 1 onwards?  Salt salt salt.  Did you end up playing against megagargants with an army that can't pass the DPS check?  Salt salt salt.  If you feel like you have a chance of winning the game, or the game feels close, it is an interesting game.  Being on the receiving end of a curb stomping that it doesn't feel like you have any play against isn't.

    i think this hits the nail on the head, and ultimately I guess its on GW to make the other units in the book more viable, at present the best stormcast list is just take loads of dragons/fulminators so obviously thats what people will do.

    I've been building a small Hallowed Knights force up and feel that i'm probably hamstringing myself by not choosing to take either of those units, but I guess thats based on my taste and just wanting to take shed loads of Prosecutors like its 2016

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