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Hydroxskin got faq'd to normal move iirc.
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43 minutes ago, Evantas said:
Does Gavriel count as a Lord Celestant for purposes of Skyborne Slayers? He has Lord Celestant as keyword.
It's the Lord Celestant warscroll, not a LORD CELESTANT keyword. So no, much like no Celestant on Dracoth or Stardrake.
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At first glance it looks very CP hungry! Shooting in the hero phase and rerolling 1's in the shooting phase doesn't leave much for furious retribution... Especially if you're like me and fail 5" charges with alarming regularity, and need to burn more on rerolls
Have you tried it yet?
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Another thought - for pure zoning, 90 points gets you 10 saurus warriors on 32mm bases. Are they the cheapest order battleline on 32's?
Regarding the Stardrake, I always feel as if I need to include a relictor with Divine Light these days to bypass all those pesky 6's do mortals effects.
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8 hours ago, Turragor said:
I am open to all suggestions for screening units! What I would like is for the unit to have utility beyond screening for when I don't need to screen so much. I kinda like the revenants teleport.
Shadow warriors also look like a good choice but if I need to screen then they don't ambush and aren't a late game objective threat like revenants.
Skinks are also a classic option.
Arkanauts? Good shooting threat with skyhooks.
But for cheap and reliable it's skinks all the way. High movement, retreat shenanigans and even some tiny ranged threat with boltspitters.
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39 minutes ago, Raffonerd said:
5 x Evocators (220)
- 10 x Grandstaves
- Lore of Invigoration : Speed of Lightning
That's a lot of Staves!
Why the 10 Liberators? If you downsized to 5 and dropped the prosecutors that would allow for 9 Longstrikes instead.
No Castellant? With the amount of rend about currently, I find that 4+rerollable doesn't cut it. Although that may just be me being unable to roll higher than a 1. -
1 hour ago, Mark Williams said:
I recall reading a while back that some of the "fight first" abilities will make it so that the Sequitors never get a chance to charge their shields in combat, but I'm reading over their rules, and I can't see a situation where they wouldn't get to use their shields, as the announcement of them using their shields has nothing to do with the order that they do combat in.
The only situation I can see where this would come up is if someone fights outside of the combat phase entirely, such as during a hero phase. Am I wrong?
As I understand it the order of start of phase actions us determined by who's turn it is. So if it's your turn you'd charge shields before getting hermdar to the face, but if it's your opponent's turn they'll be going before you get chance to charge up.
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Consider making the sequitors 1x10 to maximize the Castellant buff? Also loses a drop.
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I've got 2 versions at the moment.
V1 is what I normally play
SpoilerAllegiance: Stormcast Eternals
Mortal Realm: Ulgu
Leaders
Lord-Castellant (120)
- General
- Trait: Staunch Defender
Lord-Celestant (100)
- Artefact: Sword of Judgement
Lord-Relictor (100)
- Prayer: Translocation
Knight-Incantor (140)
- Celestial Staves (Artefact): Mindlock Staff
- Spell: Lightning Blast
Battleline
30 x Liberators (520)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 6x Grandblades
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Judicators (160)
- Boltstorm Crossbows
- 1x Thunderbolt Crossbows
5 x Judicators (160)
- Skybolt Bows
-1x Shockbolt Bow
Units
5 x Protectors (180)
- 2x Starsoul Maces
5 x Decimators (180)
- 2x Starsoul Maces
Battalions
Skyborne Slayers (190)Extra Command Point (50)
Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 2
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 141
However I'm considering this instead for maximum alphastrikery
SpoilerAllegiance: Stormcast Eternals
- Stormhost: Celestial Vindicators
Mortal Realm: Ulgu
Leaders
Lord-Celestant (100)
- General
- Trait: Single-minded Fury
- Artefact: Sword of Judgement
Lord-Relictor (100)
- Prayer: Translocation
Knight-Incantor (140)
- Artefact: Stormrage Blade
- Spell: Lightning Blast
Knight-Vexillor (120)
- Meteoric Standard
Battleline
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 6x Grandblades
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Judicators (160)
- Boltstorm Crossbows
- 1x Thunderbolt Crossbows
5 x Judicators (160)
- Skybolt Bows
- 1x Shockbolt Bows
Units
10 x Protectors (360)
- 4x Starsoul Maces
10 x Decimators (360)
- 4x Starsoul Maces
Battalions
Skyborne Slayers (190)
Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (60)
Extra Command Point (50)
Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 2
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 120
I have a couple of variations too. List 1 but dropping the Incantor and the CP to bump the protectors up to 10. Tonight I'm going to try list 1 without the Relictor, but with the Everblaze Comet instead, and the Scroll of Condemnation instead of the Mindlock Staff.
EDIT - It's 4 drops (3 with the comet) so I usually try to go second and play for the double. I'll generally start with the Relictor and Skybow Judicators on the table if I want the Incantor to be in range for the Mindlock Staff. If I'm using the Comet, I'll probably just start the Incantor on the table if the opponent has no way of reaching her.
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1 minute ago, Phil D said:
Hi all,
Not sure if this has been asked before but just started building my Evocators on Dracoline (Finally catching up with everyone else). In the warscroll it says they are armed with Te,pest Blade AND Stormstave 2 in every 3 can replace Blade and Stave with Grandstave. Does this mean that if they are amremd with Blade and Stave, they can attack with both in the combat phase? If so is the two weapon combination better than the single Grandstave?
The tempest blade and stormstave is one attack profile (the 4A/+3+/3+/-1/1D one). The Grandstave (3A/3+/3+/0/2D) is better against 4+ or worse saves and worse only against 2+ saves.
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3 hours ago, XReN said:
How did Blood and Glory went?
2 hours ago, JudgeFredd said:Wow! I love your army! Almost only models from the beginning! Great. This army could be a goal.
How did it go?Event was awesome. My generalship less so. My dice rolling a distant third! Discovered I'm good against Blades of Khorne. Had my first game against Slaanesh, where I had no idea what anything did. Got deserted by my dice against Neferata/Legion of Blood. And played like a chump vs Stardrake/6 Desolators.
Ended up 2-3, but to be fair, I never felt going into any of the games (even Slaanesh, but that's probably just me not knowing any better!) that I was on to an auto loss. But the standard of opponents meant you couldn't afford any mistakes. Especially if you can't win a priority roll to save your life. Or make saves. Or wounds!
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It's Blood and Glory tomorrow and I still haven't picked my list yet... Not that I'm indecisive you see.
I have 2 choices ready to go.
List one is just units that I like or just finished painting really. It does fine against "regular" tourney lists but struggles against tier 1 cheese attacks.
The second list is more of a one trick pony. Has better answers to some optimised lists but will struggle against others.
Anyway - list 1
SpoilerAllegiance: Stormcast Eternals
Mortal Realm: Aqshy
Leaders
Lord-Celestant on Stardrake (560)
- General
- Celestine Hammer
- Trait: Staunch Defender
- Artefact: Ignax's Scales
Lord-Arcanum on Celestial Dracoline (220)
- Spell: Azyrite Halo
- Mount Trait: Pride Leader
Lord-Castellant (120)
Lord-Relictor (100)
- Prayer: Divine Light
Battleline
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warblade & Shield
- 1x Grandblades
Units
3 x Evocators on Dracolines (300)
- 2x Grandstaves
- Lore of Invigoration: Celestial Blades
10 x Skinks (70)
- Meteoric Javelins & Star Bucklers
War Machines
Celestar Ballista (110)
Celestar Ballista (110)
Celestar Ballista (110)
Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 110
And list 2 is
SpoilerAllegiance: Stormcast Eternals
Mortal Realm: Ulgu
Leaders
Lord-Castellant (120)
- General
- Trait: Staunch Defender
Lord-Celestant (100)
- Artefact: Sword of Judgement
Lord-Relictor (100)
- Prayer: Translocation
Knight-Incantor (140)
- Celestial Staves (Artefact): Mindlock Staff
- Spell: Chain Lightning
Battleline
30 x Liberators (520)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 6x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warblade & Shield
- 1x Grandblades
5 x Judicators (160)
- Skybolt Bows
- 1x Shockbolt Bows
5 x Judicators (160)
- Boltstorm Crossbows
- 1x Thunderbolt Crossbows
Units
5 x Decimators (180)
- 2x Starsoul Maces
5 x Protectors (180)
- 2x Starsoul Maces
Battalions
Skyborne Slayers (190)
Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Extra Command Point (50)
Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 2
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 141
So, long story short "unkillable" (I wish) Stardrake vs Sword of Judgement assassin.
Which to go for? Which is more fun to play against? I normally like tanky armies. List 1 obviously has the stardrake while list 2 has the potential of 30 immune to battleshock 2+ rr1 Libs... -
Double trouble....
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2 hours ago, Mark Williams said:
I agree with what @Hodges has said, but at this point I have nothing new to add to the conversation.
So with that said, I just finished this guy tonight.
Here’s the list I plan to try out this weekend. I’ll try to take some pics and report back on how Gotrek does.
Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals
- Stormhost: Hammers of Sigmar
Mortal Realm: Aqshy
Gotrek Gurnisson (520)
Knight-Incantor (140)
- Spell: Azyrite Halo
Gavriel Sureheart (120)
Lord-Castellant (120)
- General
- Trait: We Cannot Fail
- Artefact: God-forged Blade
10 x Liberators (200)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 2x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Judicators (160)
- Boltstorm Crossbows
- 1x Thunderbolt Crossbows
3 x Aetherwings (50)
3 x Vanguard-Raptors with Hurricane Crossbows (140)
10 x Evocators (440)
- 10x Grandstaves
- Lore of Invigoration: Celestial Blades
Total: 1990 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 106
Your Gotrek looks cool, good effort!
Is the list for a tournament? Have you had much practice with it?Also any chance we can get A*********e added to the swear filter?
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6 hours ago, Kelsicle said:
So what do non-Longstrike lists look like at the moment? I’m a big fan of the sequitor models so want to lean into them and the Sacrosanct chamber. What heroes are needed to support an Evocator/Sequitor heavy list?
Lord Arcanum to make the sequitors battleline.
Lord Castellant to make them tanky.
Knight Heraldor to give the evocators a bigger threat range.
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WRT Anvilstrike - do people not just shoot the (bird)****** out of the Aetherwings? If not, why not?
I know if I was playing against it with my Skyborne Slayers that would be job #1!
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I had considered Arkanauts too, either 1x30 or 3x10 with light skyhooks, but it's a pain trying to get the hooks. At least ballistae are cheap to buy!
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I see!
Are they worth taking even with the LO?
What is the best ranged support option for non-Anvilstrike Stormcast at the moment?
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Ballistae.
I have room in my list for 3 but no Ordinator. Are they ever worth taking without the LO? Or just a constant source of disappointment?
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That Knight Questor looks awesome, and hopefully with its different wargear loadout, it might have slightly less bad rules than the regular one!
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Best cheap allied chaff for bodies on objectives... Is it still skinks? or has Cities of Sigmar thrown up anything better?
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Regrowth from the Sylvaneth spell lore heals D6 to Sylvaneth or D3 to non Sylvaneth.
So that works on allies I guess?
EDIT - on topic I reckon the new rumour pic is one of the endless spells from Forbidden Power.
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10 minutes ago, angrycontra said:
The extra wound is great but not as big deal as it may seem, provided that the rumours about fyreslayers losing their slayer saves is true, after all 4++ fnp is basically same as having 2 wounds.
Agreed, but 4++ was only for 20+ guys, so now the pressure to take max size units is reduced.
EDIT - Ninja'd!
Starcast - The Thread
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That level of hyperbole actually makes my brain hurt...