vHeatv

I'm not about picking fights online... But Nautical Soup, bro, you spend a lot of time telling people they're wrong or shooting things down. Genuinely makes me avoid commenting in this forum. Just half a cup of positivity would go a long way

It sounds good until you consider it's cost 20 Gutrippas - 360pts 1 Shaman - 105pts 1 Snatchaboss - 315pts 780 points. You could have Kragnos with points to spare

I think Boltboyz are basically the only answer at the moment. I'm having some great success with 3 gnashtoof, Kragnos, 5*3 Boltboyz and dinner hobgrotz. Which is unique, and fun but still doesn't get away from the Boltboyz spam. The GHB is out in two weeks and who knows... It could change everything? (Battleline focus and points drops?)

Or you deploy well and screen well?

I'm only 2 games into real world experience with a Kragnos/Boltboyz MSU list and one of the things I find really interesting was the flexibility with movement. You aren't committed to all 9 in a unit being long range. You can move some up (to get closer/form a new screen line), keep some back etc etc. It was very cool. Limited castling is very liberating I beat a Stormcast dragons list last night, and it was embarrassingly easy (no longstrikes tbf)

Numbers are surprising hey?

The horizontal axis is armor save

I think the best of Kruleboyz is yet to come. The 9 man Boltboyz feels so good, but hurts so bad. I've been playing with MSU Boltboyz options... Without a shaman, and the math-hammer is surprising. 4 units of 3 Boltboyz (remembering each unit gets +1 attack from the leader) @480 points almost always has better damage output than 1 unit of 9 with a shaman for poison. (@465pts) See below From their... The benefits of a 9 man squad, most significantly Unleash hell, vs the benefits of flexibility and survivability of 4 units of 3 become really really interesting! Currently running 6 units of 3 Boltboyz with Kragnos, Snatchaboss and 3 units of hobgrots. It's early days but I quite like it. I don't think it Kragnos/Boltboyz would be possible unless it's an MSU build. Anyone else explored this?