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1 hour ago, Marcvs said:
I still find it so weird that full range of core books and now the first BTs of the new edition have been / will be published with no option whatsoever to have them in a digital format. This is such a straight downgrade of my experience as a customer (often travelling, wanting to buy books in a language different than the country where I live) it's demoralising
They mentioned in their last earnings call that they are working on this. The current "downgrade" is to prevent piracy. It was way too easy to get a nice hq full text searchable version of any codex/battletome in minutes, I can understand why they would try to address that.
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1 minute ago, Loyal Son of Khemri said:
Why are they doing this?! I mean come on this Month’s White Dwarf issue is nearly nothing but AOS content!
If you aren't familiar with 9th ed 40k. The battletomes have a code in then to unlock rules in the app. Almost certain they are delaying the book until the app is ready. And probably the same company doing wh+ app and aos app, so ones gotta wait.
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1 hour ago, Gistradagis said:
A hero is the last thing Nurgle needs, rather. Same for terrain piece. Nurgle, ironically (as it looks like a big faction), actually needs a pretty big release. It lacks endless spells, and an actual (AoS) release (it has 6 non-hero units, from 40k and the end of Fantasy basically), Slaanesh-style.
Um... You don't call the 2017release a release? GUO, pusgoyle blightlords, horticulus slimux, sloppity, spoilox, lord of blights, beasts of nurgle.. a few of those aren't even playable in 40k....
And "end of fantasy" not that long ago. Those models (blightkings, maggoth lord, glotkin, ??) Are all great kits and nowhere near old compared to what some armies are dealing with.
Endless spells were just Chinese kits so gw could have "releases" even when they didn't have factory capacity. It's not something anyone "needs"
Nurgle players who think they "need" models must not have played any other army.
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3 minutes ago, Nezzhil said:
I'm pretty sure that they didn't shows us all the units after reading that article. I'm very happy now. Yay!
Really? What in that article implied to you more models?
1. They usually drop pretty obvious hints that models are coming (at least they did in the articles leading up to dragon/bird)
2. They usually don't start battletome previews until all models are revealed
3. They've done the centerpiece models, which presumably they'd save for last (why not?)
4. They literally said on social media that this was it for now.
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4 hours ago, Overread said:
As for Total War - Warhammer has done CA a huge amount of good. I can see CA wanting to continue that and doing AoS would be a way for CA to be able to stick with the licence that works and the rough same setting and style; whilst also having al ot of new forces, story, setting and material to work with. Esp since its unlikely that a new Total War Warhammer Old World could be made now for quite a few years - the 3 game series is going to be a king for a long long time.
Whfb was a good fit for the existing total war genre and engine. It's about strategically moving around big regiments. And the troops were pretty low fantasy for the most part. I mean sure reskin some armies as skeletons and some as orks, bit it's still just a bunch of infantry.
AoS is about skirmishes, heroes, monsters, magic, and more out there fantasy. How do you put KO, or Idoneth, or SoB, etc?
Even if they could sort it out, what's the point? It'd be nearly the same game just with AoS shoehorned in..Hard pass, but I do look forward to other genres of AoS games
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2 minutes ago, Overread said:
You can use rounds, just place them onto a movement tray. Most Old World armies will likely use them because everything moves in formation all the time. So a movement tray works great. Big monsters you might have to get creative with some round to square conversion options, but in general its very doable.
Heck people did it in the old days with Chaos Demons because they worked in both games
It works whfb-> AoS because the 20mm square almost fits inside of a 25mm round. So even without snap on convertors or movement trays you can just leave a little air between the models.
On the other hand, playing round in square game means your regiment takes up 25% more space. I'm a casual matched player but that seems like too much a difference to really play as intended.
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Happy for anyone that still has armies on square bases that was waiting for this bit it looks like TOW will not be for me. Seems like, while you could and still can do square bases in AoS, round bases in TOW really won't work. Look forward to some sweet models to use in AoS though!
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43 minutes ago, Loyal Son of Khemri said:
Alright, since @KingBrodd is off pledging his soul to another human being, I must ask if anyone has heard any rumors regarding Mawtribes in addition to my usual Chaos Dwarf question.
You actually don't have to ask if anyone has heard any rumors, they'll be posted here.... In the rumor thread. You can search it just scroll through a few pages to the last time someone talked about it. Tl;Dr there aren't any, other than gw implied dark duardin are coming at some point
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8 minutes ago, Arzalyn said:
There was any preview announcement on the page? I doubt they will announce the tomes without revealing the last models.
From time they announce preorder they have a week or so to reveal the last models before the books start hitting retailers. I don't see why they need to reveal the models before the "preorder announcement"(2 weeks before it's on sale)
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32 minutes ago, silverstu said:
I'd say Dawnbringer Crusades to update CoS are likely as well and probably forgetting a few.
Reading the core book, by how much they talk about "dawnbringer crusades", a term they never used before and have retroactively applied to happening ever since the realmgate wars, they've gotta have more planned than some terrain...
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7 hours ago, SpectralHunter said:
I am half hoping for a BOC or a Chaos dwarves book as if they do Skaven then they will need a massive line refresh. If they do Skaven though I hope they give some more different Eshin specific units. maybe an Eshin sorcerer or an Eshin equivalent to a rat ogre.
Whitefang did suggest several pages back (with text and not reactions) that skaven was coming at some point and insinuated it was eshin.. I suspect even if they did focus on eshin they'd take the opportunity to do a few other kits, similar to the ork release we are seeing right now.. I think skaven and seraphon are so popular, so fantasy and uniquely GW that hopefully they will do them justice. Kroak is a really good sign for seraphon IMO. I expect he was not designed in isolation.
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4 hours ago, Nezzhil said:
I don't think so because BoC needs a big update and I don't expect any big release before January.
I expect a Battlebox Nurgle vs Something in October-November
Wanting (or even needing) something doesn't make it so. How many armies "needed" something in AoS 2.0 (more than spells and terrain) and how many actually got it? Most armies still need "big" updates (either small armies like Fireslayers, DoK, SoB) or models with many outdated kits (CoS, seraphon, skaven, boc, ogors, std). They can't address all those this cycle..there may be some souping/consolidation (model squatting), and the other armies may just get a battletome and hopefully a plastic hero or maybe even a single unit kit. Look at how long eldar is waiting to only receive a unit and a hero
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3 hours ago, Christopher Rowe said:
Has anyone heard any talk of the spell models from the Malign Sorcery boxed being re-released, either as a complete set, in boxes of three or four, or (doubtful) individually? They're still a big part of the game, as is evidenced by the whole section on new rules for them in the General's Handbook Pitched Battles 2021 volume, but the original box of models isn't available anywhere that I've been able to find it.
It's kinda funny..3 years ago, Notthingham could not produce enough plastic and AoS 2.0 was all about endless spells and terrain from China...
Now, it seems like with the pandemic and Brexit, perhaps they are having the opposite problem (what happened to cursed city??).
I don't know if the molds used in China for endless spells work on the UK tooling..or even if they are struggling to get more sprues from china, just something to consider.
Either way, they can't be released individually, it would have to be 1 sprue at minimum which for most is multiple endless spells.. but they for sure have doubled down on them in 3.0 so I guess they'll find some way to produce and productize them going forward.
Also maybe we don't get another big preview before the battletomes. The dragons will be released with battletome: stormcast extremis or the 6th stormcast Eternals battletome 4 months after the 5th!
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As far of TOW goes, after reading the rumors and theories:
1. I don't think they will give rules for ALL the WHFB units. They've stopped producing most of those and while I guess it's possible (unlikely) they may bring a couple of select kits or a faction back, they certainly aren't going to start producing that whole range again! And they've indicated (at least with AoS) they don't want to put rules for models you can't currently buy. You can play WHFB with your old minis, or you can play AOS with legends rules. There's no need for a 3rd ruleset for those old models...2. I don't think they can or want to avoid "AoS" models completely. First because, most of those kits came from the old world, so why would they?! And a lot of the newer models for those armies are just updated versions or additional models that don't necessarily clash. I have noticed that many recent releases in AoS have not been as "far out" AOS fantasy as, say, KO or Idoneth, but instead more classic, toned down fantasy like Lumineth (minus giant cow man) or Vampires.
if 30k is 5% as popular as 40k, and AoS is 25-50% as popular as 40k (i just made up these numbers) then GW knows they can't get away with creating an entire new range of miniatures for TOW, so I think some strategic reuse of AOS kits where it matches the aesthetic (particularly where the AOS minis are designed with TOW in mind!) is probably their plan. But we shall see!
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10 minutes ago, Tiberius501 said:
My only gripe now really is Mortal Wounds continuing their prevalence.
The generic artifacts include a 5+ ward. Seems better than a lot of what's in older battletomes, so I'm hopeful new battletomes will have additional defensive artifacts for heros just as good. Doesn't help your troops tho...
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36 minutes ago, Vicar in a tutu said:
As of writing this, the new Kill Team trailer has been on YouTube for 6 hours and has amassed 174k views. The Dominion trailer for the 3rd edition of their second main game line has been on YouTube for a little over 30 days and has 641k views.
This is a pointless comparison. For certain the first few hours, many of the people who care have already seen it. They sent out an email as soon as it dropped. The miniatures will be revealed tomorrow, so the cinematic trailer will lose its appeal to many who haven't yet seen it... after a few days it will probably have most of the views it will ever have. Will it get a million views? Two million? Who knows. Obviously 40k has more fans and followers than AoS, but looking at how many views one video has after 6hrs and another after 30 days gives us nearly 0 insight.
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55 minutes ago, Greybeard86 said:
I would be outraged if they started a process of widespread legending more models within a few years of release.
I really do hope they don't dare do that. They got away with it during the end times (which was a nasty move), to then turn around and legend the models they introduced during that period? That's be pretty shameless.
On the Kruelboys, I have to admit I do not like them that much. But I do like the recent trend (started with that bizarre vampire lord) of making truly disturbing monsters.
The question is: how many total stormcast kits are they willing to support at one time? They really gonna keep all those mold sets around and change their tooling to do another run of neave blacktalon of whatever other obscure hero or unit that happens to be the 50th most popular kit? I doubt it..
Space marines have a huge range because people buy it. So if you have to make (minimum quantity of sprues that justifies a run), it's ok because they're not gonna be taking up space for 5+ years.
Their stormcast strategy is really weird and it's gonna lead to some really unfortunate situations I feel like (already has in the sense of power creep of new units)
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2 hours ago, Nos said:
Everybody includes beginners to the hobby then
Obviously good marketing is "yes this is a product you should buy" for all of your products. But the fact remains, this box was never intended to sit on the shelf at the local game store for a curious newcomer to come by and look at. They expect/hope to sell through quickly, and the box that will be sitting in the store (age of sigmar: command edition, or whatever, which by the way is much better margin for them) will likely be much more clearly new player friendly. (Eg, does not included hundreds of pages of rulebook for a game whose main selling point is: rules are free)
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50 minutes ago, Nos said:
Another thing, although this is a broader GW trend not just limited to AOS
It would be easier to sell something like these sets to beginners if it was made apparent what it was you were getting beyond a massive lump of models.
The picture on the back of the current box (recieved mine today) it's just like a pattern of models, all sparsely set out. Not set our how the game plays or anything, just a load of individual models put down on a flat space. It communicates nothing besides "quantity".
The difference between the sense of what components you were getting to play with on the back of the 6th edition box, below, and the current AOS set, is night and day.
One looks like a boxed game, and the other more like a starter entry point into a complex concept or system. Weirdly, Dominion, which is far greater value for money, looks simultaneously more formidable while also being a bit empty and in a vacuum.
And Dominion is actually the first GW boxed set to have two 1000+ plus armies, but again, that's not made clear, it's just an island of minis.
You're not making a valid comparison. Look up a picture of the back of 40k Command edition. Very clearly shows what your getting (and indicates it has everything needed to play).
Say it with me: Dominion(and Indomitus) are not starter sets. They are limited run "launch sets" marketed towards existing players, and do not include all the tools needed to play.
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8 hours ago, Blueraven84 said:
Heavy spoilers about latest WD: There is a story in the latest wd, where Grungni is watching suffering of duardin through ages.
Everyone else is fleeing to Azyrheim for the coming chaos, but main point of story is duardin are made of stronger stuff. In the end he makes Grombrindal in his forge to unite duardin.
"Unite the duardin" sure sounds like soup tome to me....which is what most ko/fyreslayer players don't want right? So only exciting for dispossesed lovers that are currently stuck in a book with aelves!
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1 hour ago, Christopher Rowe said:
I dunno. We already have a lot of cool models and, really, we didn't get hurt too bad in the points department. I'd like to see some finecast retired in favor of new plastic sculpts for some units, but other armies/factions need expansion a lot more than we do.
I would put seraphon very high on the "needs attention" list, with skaven and ogors. Their infantry doesn't even come in the right numbers (which matters to gw) and looks super dated.
I get that some units like fyrslayers and DoK need more units... Until that happens I fear them getting rolled into books with dwarves and malerion respectively
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1 hour ago, Nos said:
The official lore is that its Kragnos' likeness
But there was later an article on the inspiration behind the design which confirmed they are just a 3D realisation of John Blanche/Kev Adam's classic orc shield designs
So they were designed first and then given contrived lore as an afterthought.
As I said on reveal day, *nobody* would have been like "wow who are those shields meant to represent?" If GW hadnt brought it up.
So many units have shields with stuff on them, I've never once been like "oh hey is that meant to be Dave? And whose dismembered hand is that?"
Malignant orcs have malignant shields, news at 10, what could it mean
Are you sure that's the official lore? Or did you just hear that on the reveal stream like I did? I guess we won't know until the book is out maybe. But the shields definitely have the features of the orruks carrying them, and that would not make sense at all if it were supposed to be kragnos.
I think the whtv guys just got 1 fact mixed up.
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1 hour ago, novakai said:
Isn't that basically Kruleboyz
Kruleboyz don't follow/worship kragnos more than any of the other destruction armies. He's the biggest baddest dude, so they respect him, as do the other orks, goblins, etc. He's depicted on that totem thing that one of them is carrying. Why do no other destruction factions have kragnos on their stuff or in their battletome? Because he didn't exist 6 months ago...
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3 hours ago, discoking said:
I'm Battle Bunker and it was a calculated gamble based off Indomitus(I shifted 90 copies in 2hrs). It didn't pay off so rather than having 4k sitting about doing nothing and taking up huge amounts of space I decided to get rid. Money has to work for you and sitting about selling 1 or 2 a week is not working. I've got my money back now and can invest in other things. if someone wants a Dominion then I can just order one as it seems GW aint gonna run out anytime soon.
As for taking a register of interest, some might find it useful but it doesn't work for me. next weeks pre-orders are revealed on a sunday evening and I have to order the monday morning to guarantee I get what I think I'll need before pre-orders even go up. My gut told me 30 copies of Dominion but incase demand was high I opted for an extra 30 as I could absorb that if it went pear shaped. And as it happens it did go pear shaped but I've got my money back so I'm happy.
And I'll also add the reason I sold them so cheap was to ensure I sold em fast and second so when other stores(who have lots of unsold copies) inevitably follow suit people don't cancel their pre-orders and buy the cheaper box elsewhere....as I've already witnessed, getting in 1st was important.
Interesting how you can keep your GW reseller agreement while offering below standard discounts. I thought they were rather strict about that, especially brand new release...
The Rumour Thread
in Age of Sigmar Discussions
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But nurgle doesn't need a big release. They need a book. A big release doesn't always have to come with a book
That said sorcerer is the least exciting model they could release. For $30 you can get the underworlds sorcerer with 2 extra blightkings. The old rotbtinger sorcerer is fine. You can use the chaos sorcerer Lord or the glottkin sorcerer or many other things. Not hard to kitbash a staff onto a blightking.
Festus, Harbinger, or Epidemius made much more sense unless they're just planning to drop those.
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