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    The Rumour Thread

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    I remember seeing a rumour here that COS will be getting a new range or something. Now that the rumours say that COS battletome will be coming in 2023, I have a strong feeling thay the "new range" will be new models from the "Old World" launch since the scale is the same. Most of the COS miniatures are from the Old World anyways.

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    Warhammer - The Old World

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    5 minutes ago, Beliman said:

    I think that @Neil Arthur Hotep and @EMMachine already explained everything about TOW. I just want to add how Warhammer 30k or Horus Heresy: Age of Darkness works.

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    The game is based on 7th edition of Warhammer 40k, without following the main rules of Warhammer 40k (9th edition at this moment). The main rules are tweaked so it's not just a 1:1. You can find all basic rules in the main Rulebook:
     

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    The main game is about Space Marines vs Space Marines (Legions). So, everybody is in the same ground (appart from some special guest, as Talons of the Emperor, Solar Auxilia or Mechanicum). That works really well because the balance is on the special rules and not on units strength (that's not 100% true but you get the point). To pack all the rules, Horus Heresy has 2 books, one with all the special rules for each Legion (appart from a few that were not developed at that time) and the units that share all the legions (that's 90% of them).

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    Those books are the "red books", in other words, rules to play. There are a few more Red Bookss with rules for other non-Space Marines armies too but that's another story.

    To follow the main (and ongoing) story, the game has Black Books. they are a bit diferent fro the Red Books. They have a lot of Lore and sometimes updated profiles or even new Rites of War (imagine if rules for subfactions and warscroll battalions had a baby). The last one released was called Crusade, and it is the IX of this collection:

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    That's how the game works, but not how the game deals with miniatures. You can buy a lot of them from their Forgeworld webside (btw, some of them disappear for a few months or even a years to reappear later, magic!!), and they are really expensive. But from time to time, GW release a Box based on the Horus Heresy timeline with cheap basic armies of infantry/walkers/whatever. We had two before and it seems that it will be another one at the end of the year:

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    This box have two little armies that can be expanded in to any Space Marines Legion, giving you a good backbone for your army. The other "special" units, as I said before, are expensive and most of the time, people just convert other units with some decorations and special weapons. Take in mind that the last rules even encourage people to do convert units. We can see some of them in the last free rules/minicampaign that Forgeworld has released:

    https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/10/04/launch-a-daring-strike-into-the-heart-of-ultramar-with-the-night-lords/

    Btw, every few weeks (or months?),  Forgeworld releases new/old units. The last one being the Sons of Horus Praetor (yep, a generic leader for the Big Man Legion!):

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    Not sure if it will help, but I'm a big fan of the Horus Heresy!

    If TOW can take the best parts of the Age of Darkness, I think we will have a really good game!

    Just when I thought I know a lot about GW. This is great man! Thanks for the quick rundown on what Horus Heresy is. The Forge World aspect is what makes me worry though. I checked that website and ooohh boy it ain't cheap. I really love the customization aspect of this hobby though. I just hope that reborn factions like Kislev or new Factions like Cathay (maybe) won't be a "timed" or exclusive release.

     

    Thanks for the introduction to it! I might look into it more!

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    Warhammer - The Old World

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    5 hours ago, EMMachine said:

    Well, it looks like the Old World will be part of Forge World as some rumours say.

    To give a little inside. 30k's lore is 10,000 years before the lore of 40k, also called the "Horus Heresy" because it is the time where the Space Marine Legions had the war against each other because Horus switched sides to Chaos with halve of the legions. I think it was losely described in early 40k lore and because their own system distributed by Forgeworld fleshing out the lore of that time.

    I think "the Old World" is described by some people as 30k of AoS because it is the lore that happened before the realms of AoS existed, the flaw with this description is that besides of some characters and Mallus, the core of the Old World, nothing of the old world really exists anymore, while the universe of 30k still exists in 40k with maybe some planets are destroyed.

    I have the feeling, if we would get a game that would be placed at the end of the Age of Myth and the start of the age of Chaos fleshing out the lore their this would be the real 30k to Age of Sigmar because the realms would still be the same + the corruption and later take over of chaos (or failing of the Pantheon of Order) would have some similarities to the Horus Heresy.

    I see! I thought when GW released the statement that they would be making the Old world as AOS' 30k, it meant that it will surely be the same way they are handling that system as well. It may just mean that it's a time before the events of what is happening currently.

     

    1 hour ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:

    We know a few things about The Old World. The project is handled by the specialist games devision (Forgeworld). They want people to be able to play their old armies, but are trying to introduce new factions as well (Kislev) and bring back some discontinued ones (Brettonia).

    Personally, I still have no idea how they can realistically pull this off. It seems impossible for Forgeworld to support all the old Warhammer Fantasy armies, model wise, especially since many of them were largely not composed of plastic miniatures. So this would necessitate either new plastic kits or a reissue of old kits, most likely in resin. But bringing back all these old models plus a bunch of new ones all at once would be a gigantic release, which I am not convinced is feasible from a production point of view.

    The other option would be to support all armies with rules, but not models. There are several downsides to this, and GW does not generally do it. For one, it would suck for new players to get excited about the old world only to find out they can't actually play because GW is not selling models for their favourite faction. Perhaps a rotating release schedule might be possible (this week we are making Brettonia, next week we are making Tomb Kings, get them before they run out), but that's definitely not the most satisfying solution either.

    Currently, the Old World is in the "hopes and dreams" stage, where we know the game is in the works, but have no idea how it will look. Personally, I think that the ultimate wish that a lot of people have, a new edition of Warhammer Fantasy with all classic factions fully supported and new ones added, seems impossible. But we will have to see what compromises end up being made.

    Indeed! that's why a lot of people were arguing that it may be more expensive and "exclusive" than what I am accustomed to when I started, way back in 8th edition Warhammer fantasy. the anticipation and worry is killing me and it's still year/s away!

     

    Thanks for the input guys!

    Warhammer - The Old World

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    Hi there guys! just had a long convo in my LGS regarding the Old World. Seems like the main concern from most of the people there is that the Old World will be positioned as the 30k of AOS. I really have no idea what 30k is, but they're saying it's more expensive than playing 40k and models are more hard to buy since most of the models will be distributed or manufactured by Forge World. Do you also see it that way? any 30k player here wanna chime in? 

    The Rumour Thread

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    13 hours ago, HollowHills said:

    Same.

    It's cool that aos gets so many new armies, but I'd like to see them expand the existing factions a bit.

    I hope Kruelboyz (I hate the name btw) are a sign of this. Visually distinctive but fit within an existing army.

    Hopefully we do get Kurnothi too as an expansion for sylvaneth. 

    My wish for Idoneth is they go more into the sea theme rather than the elf theme. All the elf purists can play Lumineth. Give us crabs, squid, octopus, angry fish whatever.

    Give us Mermans and Mermaids for idoneth GW! The theme is right there!

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    The Rumour Thread

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    https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/05/24/get-to-know-kragnos-the-grumpy-god-who-tried-to-rage-smash-all-the-eggs-in-the-mortal-realms/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Twitter&utm_campaign=WhoisKragnos240521&utm_term=WhoisKragnos240521

     

    "Heartlands was ruled by many monstrous races that towered over the lesser mortals of the era. One of these tribes was the Drogrukh, powerful centauroid beings that, despite their great strength and capacity for war, lived in harmony with the land.Heartlands was ruled by many monstrous races that towered over the lesser mortals of the era. One of these tribes was the Drogrukh, powerful centauroid beings that, despite their great strength and capacity for war, lived in harmony with the land"

     

     

     

    Do you guys think We'll get a Drogrukh army??

     

    "As he hunted down the last of dragonkind, the surviving Draconith princes beseeched the aid of the ancient intellect, known only as Lord Kroak. The regal slann hatched a plan that saw Kragnos drawn into battle atop a great mountain and finally, with the Great Drake Dracothion itself lending its divine power, sealed the Earthquake God within its granite heart.As he hunted down the last of dragonkind, the surviving Draconith princes beseeched the aid of the ancient intellect, known only as Lord Kroak. The regal slann hatched a plan that saw Kragnos drawn into battle atop a great mountain and finally, with the Great Drake Dracothion itself lending its divine power, sealed the Earthquake God within its granite heart."

     

    So can I say Dragonborn Race confirmed for AOS???? 😃😃

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